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Survey On LAMP and Linux Communitites
by Sachin 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hi there, there is some interesting work going on the LAMP and Linux Communities in India The Comapny name is IDC (india) Limited at Bangalore [http://www.idcindia.com/] The Person called S. Sabyasachi came personally and met me for the information on LAMP and Linux. e.g. *What would be strengh ot linux user *Application *Desktop user etc I think people in india have started takiing the Linux Communitites very seriously now Hope this kinds of reviews and surveys actually have impact on the computer users mind regards sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= We are each entitled to our own opinion, but no one is entitled to his own facts. -- Patrick Moynihan ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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chmod in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

I've been trying to change the opermissions of a particular file using the chmod command in php. Though a ver trivial operation ... it is not working. the command i'm using is: chmod("/var/www/cgi-bin/new.dat", 0777); i'm getting the following error: Warning: chmod failed: Operation not permitted in /var/www/html/new.php on line 2 Both the files viz. new.dat and new.php have the same owner and group. the current permissions for new.dat are -rw-r--r-- and permissions for new.dat are -rwxr-xr-x what could be the issue? Any suggestions will be appreciated :-) Kapil

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student from IISc, needed information on RHCE
by Harikishan V 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hi Shankar, I am a student of Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. I would like to know that training centers which are offering course for RHCE situated in Bangalore. Your help will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance regards, Harikishan CEDT,IISc

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chmod in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

I've been trying to change the opermissions of a particular file using the chmod command in php. Though a ver trivial operation ... it is not working. the command i'm using is: chmod("/var/www/cgi-bin/new.dat", 0777); i'm getting the following error: Warning: chmod failed: Operation not permitted in /var/www/html/new.php on line 2 Both the files viz. new.dat and new.php have the same owner and group. the current permissions for new.dat are -rw-r--r-- and permissions for new.php are -rwxr-xr-x what could be the issue? Any suggestions will be appreciated :-) Kapil

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Fwd: fetchmail
by slash_axl_rose 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

plug-mail(a)plug.org.in, linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-574663007-1035353524=:46597" --0-574663007-1035353524=:46597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. ===== ravi saxena http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net upengan78(a)hotpop.com "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' "Can I Expect this October 2002 full of blood donation" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --0-574663007-1035353524=:46597 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: upengan1978(a)yahoo.com via 216.136.130.84; 22 Oct 2002 22:47:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 1: 100 Return-Path: <upengan1978(a)yahoo.com> Received: from 203.197.83.190 (EHLO yahoo.co.in) (203.197.83.190) by mta420.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2002 22:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by yahoo.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g9N5pnV01299 for upengan1978(a)yahoo.com; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:21:49 +0530 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:21:49 +0530 From: upengan1978(a)yahoo.com Content-Length: 1504 i have configured the fetchmail it gives the following error The Fetchmail configuration file # Configuration created Tue Oct 22 20:04:54 2002 by fetchmailconf set postmaster "localhost" set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties "" poll oe2000.com via 192.168.0.1 user "pmtest1" pass "pmtest1" is tech keep fetchall It Gives me the following error Checking for mail on server(s) with command fetchmail -v -f '/home/tech/.fetchmailrc' oe2000.com .. fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying oe2000.com (protocol auto) at Tue Oct 22 20:17:18 2002 fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying oe2000.com (protocol IMAP) at Tue Oct 22 20:17:18 2002 fetchmail: IMAP< * OK NTMail IMAP4 server v6.00.0014 ready fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 LOGIN-REFERRALS fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0002 LOGIN "*" "pmtest1" fetchmail: IMAP< A0002 OK LOGIN pmtest1 is welcome fetchmail: IMAP> A0003 SELECT "INBOX" fetchmail: IMAP< * 5 EXISTS fetchmail: IMAP< * 0 RECENT fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 0321341696] UIDs valid fetchmail: IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft)] Limited fetchmail: IMAP< A0003 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed 5 messages (5 seen) for pmtest1 at 192.168.0.1. fetchmail: IMAP> A0004 FETCH 1:5 RFC822.SIZE fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 661) fetchmail: IMAP< * 2 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 948) fetchmail: IMAP< * 3 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1594) fetchmail: IMAP< * 4 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 776405) fetchmail: IMAP< * 5 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 112100) fetchmail: IMAP< A0004 OK FETCH completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0005 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {581} reading message 1 of 5 (581 header octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: can't raise the listener; falling back to $procmail -d %Tsh: -d: command not found # fetchmail: IMAP< ) fetchmail: IMAP< A0005 OK FETCH completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0006 FETCH 1 BODY[TEXT] fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (BODY[TEXT] {80} (80 body octets) ** fetchmail: IMAP< ) fetchmail: IMAP< A0006 OK FETCH completed fetchmail: SIGPIPE thrown from an MDA or a stream socket error fetchmail: socket error while fetching from oe2000.com fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying oe2000.com (protocol POP3) at Tue Oct 22 20:17:18 2002 fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 server ready <14393542900340(a)oe2000.com> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Unknown command fetchmail: Unknown command fetchmail: POP3> USER * fetchmail: POP3< +OK pmtest1 is welcome. fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK mailbox locked fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 5 891793 5 messages for pmtest1 at 192.168.0.1 (891793 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 5 messages 891793 (octets) fetchmail: POP3< 1 678 fetchmail: POP3< 2 965 fetchmail: POP3< 3 1611 fetchmail: POP3< 4 776422 fetchmail: POP3< 5 112117 fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 678 octets. reading message 1 of 5 (678 octets) sh: -d: command not found #**fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> RETR 2 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 965 octets. reading message 2 of 5 (965 octets) #******sh: -d: command not found fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> RETR 3 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1611 octets. reading message 3 of 5 (1611 octets) #**********************************************sh: -d: command not found fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> RETR 4 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 776422 octets. reading message 4 of 5 (776422 octets) sh: -d: command not found #**********************************.*********************************.*************.*fetchmail: SIGPIPE thrown from an MDA or a stream socket error fetchmail: socket error while delivering to SMTP host oe2000.com fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) fetchmail: normal termination, status 2 fetchmail: terminated with signal 13 . checking complete. --0-574663007-1035353524=:46597--

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fetchmail
by slash_axl_rose 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi all __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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letter to get a email id
by jyoti acharekar 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

i am working at thana college in mumbai. please tell me what is my email id & also the password to get access to ilug-bom.org.in or how to sign in. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Can you trust your computer?
by Tahir Hashmi 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hi all! Richard Stallman has an article up on NewsForge where he discusses how the Microsoft Palladium and it's notion of "Trusted computing" in conjunction with American legislatures like DMCA, CBDTPA and TCPA can actually act as means of restraining people's freedom to compute. Given the strong inluence that America can exert over Indian technology legislation, IMO we should take this issue quite seriously. http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/10/21/1449250&tid=19 I am not sure if we have people on this list who are capable of influencing the lawmaking process but I feel that the some people from the LUGs etc. should atleast have an informal group that comprises people who can exert influence over the government. If you look at the way the laws for cellular and wireless communication have been framed,you might get an idea of what could hold for the future of Indian computing, especially when people like Vijay Mukhi and Flynn Remedios have so much say. -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Linux related books
by Philip S Tellis 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Can someone answer this person's query. Reply directly to the sender, not on the list. Philip ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:09:29 -0700 (PDT) From: jyoti acharekar <acharekar_jyoti(a)yahoo.com> Subject: linux group Respected sir, I am Jyoti working at "Thana College". Our college has launched a Linux 7.2. I would like to make the collection of books avaliable on this topics and also I want a people name(email) list who is voluntariely give a lectures. If you are having any information kindly help me out

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linux user group[
by jyoti acharekar 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

regerding linux workshop please give a deatil information __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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RedHat 8 - Switching back to Sawfish
by Green, Shaun 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Does anyone know how to switch off this terrible bluecurve crap and get back to Sawfish?? I want to use my GTK themes; like BlueHeart. Thanks, Shaun linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in (Tahir Hashmi) Date: Wed Oct 9 11:52:43 2002 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [rant] Red Hat 8 Desktop under-featured and less configurable Message-ID: <20021009113608.3443df87.code_martial(a)softhome.net> Hi Linuxers! Okay, Gnome2 and Bluecurve look really cool, especially with AA fonts but there's quite a lot that I didn't like. Here are the issues (when I say that something "is" or something "isn't", it is supposed to be *AFAIK* and not the absolute truth): - Under-featured window manager: The MetaCity Window manager doesn't have any options for layering management and attribute memory. I can't keep EveryBuddy on top now. - No options for custom keyboard short-cuts: Unlike Enlightenment or Sawfish, there's no provision for having keyboard shortcuts to run commands. There's a lot more move-move click-click involved now. - No option to switch Window Managers! I installed RH8 clean on one system and upgraded another. The former doesn't have sawfish, the latter doesn't have an option to switch Window Managers, even though it has Sawfish. - Complicated Menu: The main menu is now more broad than deep a la KDE and that was one of the main reasons why I didn't like KDE. - Overall lack of customizability I could go on and on but to summarize, a lot of customizability that Gnome users had grown accustomed to is now gone and the overall feel has a lack of "freedom". - The Terminal is now a "System Tool" (duh!) I looked around the Net a little and I didn't find many people ranting about these things. Is it just me? Am I missing something? I'd be grateful if some of you could give some pointers. TIA

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any tools on deb to help organise runlevels?
by Animesh N. Nerurkar 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

hi, is there any tool on debian that helps edit/organise runlevels? sure this can be done manually. but it would indeed be nice to have something on the lines of ntsysv to handle all that. reason for this: runlevel editing is not child's play. not many newbies who can handle this comfortably. selecting a number for the symlinks to be put into the various rcX.d directories is the timeconsuming part that needs too much R&D for newbies. this is very likely to turn people off when they compare things with MDK for example where there are multiple interfaces for handling runlevels, for starting and stopping services and finding out which service is running, stopped, what that service does (brief intro), etc. editing runlevels was fun for a while, till i caught myself spending too much time on this and stopped as that same time was required for regular studies more than for customising the runlevels. any new technology / feature consumes 90% time for learning and 10% or less for getting the job done ...this was roughly what happened when we built the schools CD for the GSCP proj ...and the same thing is recurring with the runlevel editing, getting my audio CD to play (still haven't managed this), etc. warm regards banduji peace -- : ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : No password login as user (#2) LOST #205 Fed up of typing password for every login as an user on stand alone boxes ? Use chpasswd ... As root type in: #echo 'username:' | chpasswd [Note the colon : after the user name]. From the next login onwards with that username, [Enter] needs to be pressed on the password prompt ... ####<kumarayil(a)eth.net>####################################### :

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] any tools on deb to help organise runlevels?
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

On Monday 21 October 2002 17:52, Animesh N. Nerurkar wrote: > hi, > > is there any tool on debian that helps edit/organise runlevels? ksysv

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congratz dinesh on the splendid workshop @ SPCOE
by Trevor Warren 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hello Luggers, I take this oppurtunity to congratulate Dinesh on the efforts and responsibility taken up on setting up/Co-ordinating and conducting the workshop at Sardar Patel College Of Engineering. Infact While going home on saturday dinesh had an accident......and inspite of being in pain, he made sure he was there for the 2nd day and see the workshop through. This according to me is display of COMMITMENT and RESPONSIBILITY that we and I would like to see FORTHCOMING from other on the LUG. Bye for now and have a nice day. Trevor ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ISDN TA Configuration on Linux
by dinesh singh 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

hi anil, thanx for the feedback . would be very very .. greatful if you could send me brief instructions as to how to go about doing it on redhat 7.2 thanx a ton, regards, Dinesh Singh Hindustan Petroleum Corp. Ltd. On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 Anil Mare wrote : >AFAIK there is no need to configure the modem. I have used Zyxel >for >lot of my clients. > >Anil > >--- Ashok Iyer <ashok_linux(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I guess good old wvdial should do for you. > > > > -- > > Ashok > > > > > hi, > > > > > > i am having trouble configuring an ISDN TA (Zyxel > > > -omni.net) on > > > RedHat 7.2. i tried adding an ISDN Device from the > > > redhat network > > > configuration but ZyXEL does not show up in the list > > > of devices > > > there.Is there any way of doing it manually. > > > i would be extremely greatful to anyone who could > > > help me out with > > > this. > > > > > > regards, > > > Dinesh Singh > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Give your Company an email address like > > > ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro > > > today! > > > Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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required help
by muhammad nasir 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

I happened to come across your name while searching for a possible remedy to the problem I encountered during my solaris installation. Warning : ACPI Tables not in Reclaim Memory (next screen) Warning : Resource Conflict - both devices are added Non - ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00 - 9FFFF, FEE0000-FEF7FFF, FEF8000-FEFFFFF, FEC0000-FEDFFFF, FFF00000-FFFFFFF ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00-9FFFF, E0000-EFFFF, 40FFC00-FEFFFF please give me a solution of problem i will be thankful to u r nice cooperation __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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help:freebsd
by aikala manoj pakkala 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

hi Shishir, i am manoj here from mangalore. can you help me get a copy of freebsd 4.5 or 4.4. i would be very much obliged if you can help me. thanking you manoj pakkala from mangalore ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus

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Regarding running GNOME or KDE without giving shell access to users
by K.Vasudeva 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

Dear all, Is it possible to run GNOME or KDE for users without giving any shell access.I want to give access to users only Netscape or Mozilla and want remove all other facilities (Editors etc).This we want to impliment in our Library. Thanks in advance -- K.Vasudeva National Centre For Biological Sciences Tata Institute of Fundamental Research UAS_GKVK Campus Bellary Road Bangalore - 560 065 Phone: 080-3636421-31 Extn 3010 Fax : 080-3636662 Email:vasu@ncbs.res.in vasu_k(a)vsnl.net

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(no subject)
by Yusuf Dalal 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

Hi ppl, I am from Saboo Siddik College of Engineering. We wud like organize a workhop in r coll on Linux and its uses. Cud an of u'll help us in organizing it??? Yusuf Dalal (Student of M H Saboo Siddik College Of Engineering) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

CO(tm) 4.2 File: mail.txt philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in wrote Which I also do not agree with. {snip} but then philip, what wud be the best thing to do in a situation where the root password is shared between a team of administrators. The objective of my suggestion was to implement detective controls for the root account. Is there any other way to do this? Sure the best thing is not to share the root password, but i have seen a number of places where root passwords are shared so that if one administrator is not able to come in or is not reachable, another authorised person is available to manage the servers. - Shankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

sankha(a)atc.tcs.co.in wrote >Dear Sankha Subhra Som But how do you enforce that (using securetty u can specify secure terminals, [snip] i wud have deleted all entries from /etc/securetty. that wud mean that root wud not be able to log in from any terminal. Assuming that i dont run services that allow root to login remotely, one can use the root account only via the su command. i originally thought that this was what the statement meant. "a secure machine has a boot loader password that doesnt work" also make sense? [snip] Well...i cant think of what this may mean. guess philip was right, the statements seem to be wrong. - Shankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

sankha(a)atc.tcs.co.in wrote >Dear Sankha Subhra Som But how do you enforce that (using securetty u can specify secure terminals, [snip] i wud have deleted all entries from /etc/securetty. that wud mean that root wud not be able to log in from any terminal. Assuming that i dont run services that allow root to login remotely, one can use the root account only via the su command. i originally thought that this was what the statement meant. "a secure machine has a boot loader password that doesnt work" also make sense? [snip] Well...i cant think of what this may mean. guess philip was right, the statements seem to be wrong. - Shankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by Sankha Subhra Som 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

>Dear Sankha Subhra Som >Since in practical situations, the root password is often shared between 2 >or more administrators. Hence to enforce control, root is restricted from >logging in directly to the machine completely. But how do you enforce that (using securetty u can specify secure terminals, but how do you enforce it so that only logins thru su are permitted) And does the statement "a secure machine has a boot loader password that doesnt work" also make sense? Regards Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** I never resist temptation, because I have found that things that are bad for me do not tempt me.

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a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by Sankha Subhra Som 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

>A *really* secure machine will have a root password that doesn't work Can neone explain the meaning of this to me? Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** I never resist temptation, because I have found that things that are bad for me do not tempt me.

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ISDN TA Configuration on Linux
by dinesh singh 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

hi, i am having trouble configuring an ISDN TA (Zyxel -omni.net) on RedHat 7.2. i tried adding an ISDN Device from the redhat network configuration but ZyXEL does not show up in the list of devices there.Is there any way of doing it manually. i would be extremely greatful to anyone who could help me out with this. regards, Dinesh Singh __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Why bash invokes child to execute script.
by Nikhil Karkera 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

$ps bash ps If I rum a simple shell script, the bash above, doesn't execute it. It invokes another bash process only for the execution of this script. Why? Regards, Nikhil.

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Linux Cluster
by Charudatt Mulye 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] need for lex and yacc for Mandrake 9.0
by Vinayak Hegde 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

Hi nikhil, Flex and bison have superseded lex and yacc respectively. As flex and bison are compatible with the syntax of lex and yacc, any program written for lex or yacc will run in flex and bison. I did write a small compiler/translator in flex and bison and did not encounter any major differences. So unless you are working on a really big project i don't believe Flex/Bison will make any difference as compared to lex and yacc. --> Vinayak Hegde On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:01:47 +0530 "Nikhil D. Kikkeri" wrote: > i use Mandrake 9.0. however for some reason this distro does not provide > with lex, yacc, flex and bison. > > i downloaded flex and bison but it would be better if i get lex and > yacc as Linux Rulez __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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qmail help needed
by Ashok Iyer 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

Hi, I am using qmail as the MTA that serves 200 users. On an average 1500 mails and sent and 1500 received everyday on a 64K leased line. However there is a problem here. Due to insufficient and sometimes intermittent bandwidth, the qmail queue increases a lot especially if a certain mail is huge in size. Due to this, qmail defers delivery of local mails. All qmail processes seem to go to sleep. Though qmail accepts SMTP and POP connections during this time, it fails to deliver mails destined for the local domain. This results in the foll. message when I run 'qmailctl queue' : Messages in queue : 100 Messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 134 After some time interval of 15 mins or so, suddenly all qmail process awake and the mail delivery begins. I have no problem with delay in outgoing mails but I do not want local mails to be deferred. This is extremely irritating to the users. Can someone tell me the reason for this and the solution? Has someone faced this problem before? -- Ashok __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Report on Workshop at Fr. CRCE
by Philip S Tellis 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

I am posting the report on the Workshop held at Fr. CRCE Bandra on the 12th and 13th of October, 2002. The report was written by Harsh Busa. The same will be put up on the db.ilug-bom.org.in website. Philip 2 Days @ Fr CRCE: Linux Workshop Report on Linux Workshop conducted at Fr. Conceciao Rodrigues College of Engineering, Bandra. Speakers: (all from Ilug-bom) Dr. G. Nagarjuna Mr. Dinesh Shah Mr. Philip S Tellis Mr. Harsh Busa Introduction: In late September, Philip was approached by Professor Shubhangi Deshmukh, of Fr. CRCE, Bandra, to organise a workshop on linux for the students of their college. Further coordination was with Mr. Aliasgar Dahodwala, a final year BE student. After a few discussions with Lug members, four persons volunteered to speak at the workshop. The workshop was to be held across two days, the 12th and 13th of October, 2002. The following schedule was drawn up with reference to topics suggested by the students, speaker expertise, and convenience of the speakers. Day 1, Morning Session: - Basic linux terminal commands - Harsh Busa - Loadable modules in the linux kernel - Philip - C Programming using Autotools - Philip - Short intro to perl - if time - Philip Day 1, Afternoon session: - Kernel compilation - Dinesh - Description of the /proc file system - Philip - Shell programming - Harsh If time permits, add vi and emacs here. Day 2, Morning Session: - Distinction between *nix and non-unix - Nagarjun - Linux File Structure - Nagarjuna or Harsh - File manipulation in Linux - Harsh Afternoon Session: - apache and samba configuration - Dinesh or Nagarjuna - configuring modem/sound/graphics/etc. - Dinesh or Nagarjuna Day 1: The first day started of nearly an hour late as the venue had to be shifted at the last moment from the Seminar Hall to a Classroom. In our opinion, this may have been a blessing as the classroom was smaller, and our voices could reach everyone without much straining. The topics gave speakers a general impression that the participants had some kind of familiarity with linux. We were also informed that the college had recently conducted a linux worshop before it and use it regularly for lab purpose. The opening poll suggested the otherwise. Except for a few final year and third year participants most were new to the concept of linux. This called for a prompt shift in focus, from Advanced Topics down to Creating Literacy and Awareness Harsh started out the first session, trying to touch upon basic filesystem stucture and commands. The session lasted around 90 minutes. Philip took over towards the end, introducing regular expressions using grep. [ed's note: my last regex lecture was 3 hours, this one was 30 minutes. I think they learnt much more this time.] It was decided at this point to postpone, or maybe even omit the concept of modular kernels. After the lunch break the session Shell Scripting was pushed up as it turned out that Philip's presentation on autotools was missing (specifically, the web directory in which the presentation was kept did not have read permissions). Harsh took up basic bash programming covering variables, expressions, conditions and loop structures. This was followed by a few simple examples suggested by members of the audience. Following this Philip took up the topic of AutoTools for writing C programs. We thought that it would be interesting to many, but without the slides, and with few people having been through the configure, make, make install process, it was too abstract for most. Some found it interesting but many seemed to be getting bored. It was already about 4 in the evening so it was time to wind up theory and let people try out some stuff for themselves. The exercise had 4 shell scripts: - Prime Numbers - Calculator - cp/mv/rm with more options / Interactive - Word Filter using grep. The day was dispersed without Dinesh getting to speak about Kernel Compilation and Philip unable to cover /proc, Loadable Kernel modules and Perl. Day 2: The second day started of on a rather positive note it was only 15mins off the schedule. The session was already reorganised by Dr. Nagarjuna looking at the previous day's experince. More time was given to speaking about Why Linux, its roots, the philosophy behind the free software foundation and what distinguishes POSIX ish OS from other OSes. This took around 90-100 mins and then before turning to the lab Dr. Nagarjuna gave a short preamble to EMACS which he then covered more extensively in the labs. It was decided to cut out the File Manipulation topic since people were already using VI and it would leave little time for other topics. Following the post lunch session Dinesh ran through the need for a customised kernel and then spoke about various aspects of selecting components for a custom kernel, various ways of compiling the kernel on shell and X both. Following this Dr. Nagarjuna demonstrated a Debian installation and explained various aspects of its several steps including adding modules to the system with apt-get and then towards the end samba and apache configuration. The speakers took some questions while the installion was going on. By the end of everything people too tired even to ask questions and simply wanted to rush home. Schedule: Finally, the schedule of what actually happened. Day 1, Morning Session: - Linux File Structure - Harsh - Basic linux terminal commands - Harsh Busa - grep - Philip Day 1, Afternoon session: - Shell programming - Harsh - C Programming using Autotools - Philip - Lab Day 2, Morning Session: - Distinction between *nix and non-unix - Nagarjun - Philosphy of Opensource and Free S/W - Nagarjun Afternoon Session: - Kernel compilation - Dinesh - Installing a typical Debian System - Nagarjun - apache and samba configuration - Dinesh or Nagarjuna Endnote: The organisers and the staff, everyone was very hospitable and lunch also quite nice. Though the sessions were interesting but quite randomly laid down topics and the vast spectrum of audience made it very difficult to satisfy everyone. It would have been better if the topics were selected keeping the audience and time in mind. The sessions were too short to do complete justice to the topic yet too long for the audiance to digest everything. It would be better if students internally cover some initial awareness sessions themselves and then have special topics arranged on weekends with a very definite topic in mind. Going by public demand often leads no one anywhere. If so many topics need to be covered well, then they should be spread over several days. or else simply have a separate beginner's workshop and then an advanced system admin or programming.

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Redhat Linux 8.0 and problems therein
by Dr. Atul Garg 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

Hello. At the outset I would like to tell you that I am a novice in Linux and don't know much. I have always treated Linux as an experimental OS to fool around with, because it is not very user friendly and the main problem of MS software is that they are very expensive. But here in Bombay, India that problem gets solved due to blatant software piracy which helps users like me use the amazingly high priced software at down to earth prices. Anyway before I started fooling around with Redhat Linux 8.0, I had no idea what "making" meant and how it had to be done. I am not a programmer!!. I installed Redhat Linux 8.0 from the CDs and it got stuck at the installation screen itself. I have the following hardware :- Compaq Presario 7000A4 PIII 933 MHz 256 MB RAM Riva TNT II with 32 MB RAM Hda with 30 GB Win2k ntfs Hdb with 10 GB > Hdb1 Linux main > hdb5 Linux swap > hdb6 msdos USB keyboard Compaq internet keyboard PS/2 mouse and some Firewire hardware for Digital camera (I think). DVD drive and internal modem (Conexant HCF) The Installation failed to get my USB keyboard and it kept waiting for an input. No failsafe mechanisms !! Luckily I had an old simple keyboard which came in handy, and helped us install the damn software. Then after booting it again I realised it recognised my USB keyboard down to the vendor etc but could not use it for some stupid reason.It gave the following error about a zillion times during kernel startup >> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Also it recognised my modem but again could not find it by software detect from pppd. So I went about searching the net high and low to get a solution, but to no avail. Thanks to Mr.Michael Fischer ,Professor of Computer Science @Yale who had a similar problem with his HP USB keyboard and as per his suggestion, I got the new kernel source for 2.4.19 (bloody 30MB download over a dialup) and then also the patch file to 2.4.20-pre10. It worked!!! << I had to learn how to patch the kernel source, and also how to make the damn kernel itself. Painful experience I must say..>> To the new kernel, I added NTFS support. (Redhat has something against NTFS support, it doesn't compile it into the kernel by default). And reduced the size by removing unnecessary hardware support from 1.1 MB to 780 KB. WoW !! I worked out a way in which USB keyboard was used in HID Boot Protocol method. Simply edit your /etc/modules.conf to read alias usb-controller usbkbd ........instead of alias usb-controller usb-uhci. This loaded the usbkbd.o file (u have to "make" it through the .config file inside the kernel making factory by activating CONFIG_USB_KBD=m). It worked perfectly and doesn't give any more errors regarding timeouts.. I then went on to download the hcfpcimodem-0.98mbsibeta02090200-1.i386.rpm binary RPM for my Conexant HCF internal modem from mbsi.com. Thanks Mark Boucher for the great software !! After installation it asks you to run a script called hcfpciconfig which not only configures your modem but also figures out if you are using a kernel which it will have to compile a modem driver for !! Great.. And it did just that for my kernel 2.4.20-pre10custom version. And automatically configured it too.. So now I have the keyboard, NTFS support and modem working perfectly. Long way for Redhat to go before they can compare to the likes of Apple and Microsoft. I wonder why anybody would even remotely think of comparing Linux at this stage to MS products or even MacOS?? I'd say it would take another 5-7 years before they can catch up to what other OSes are today. Thanks everybody for all the amazing help provided online today and in the past which helps novices like me to get our systems working.. thanks a lot.. Hope this file will get other people like me out of their misery. Bye. Dr. Atul Garg. atulrg <at> rediffmail.com PS:- More about making a kernel. You need to have the kernel source installed. It goes to the folder /usr/src/linux-2.4.19 etc. If you want to patch >> download patch and extract it to /usr/src folder. Use patch -p0 < patch file name. Then use the graphical utility "make xconfig" is the command, or simply go to control center > system tools > kernel config. Alter the source path to whatever your version of kernel is. If you want to use the old .config file for safety sake, pull it out of the default kernel source (e.g.: Redhat 8.0 CD has kernel 2.4.18-14. /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/.config is the file) or you may find it at /boot/config-2.4.18-14. Always save the original file to some safe place because you always tend to "make" mistakes(pun intended here). Alter the file, for your system and add whatever you want, delete hardware support etc. Now use the following commands to MAKE the kernel in the directory /usr/src/linux-urversion:- make symlinks dep >> computes dependencies. make clean >> Housekeeping operation make bzImage >> makes the kernel make modules >> Module factory at work make modules_install >> relocating modules to work perfectly make install >> relocating your kernel files to work.. PLEASE READ THE REDHAT LINUX DOCUMENTATION THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE INSTALLATION CDs BEFORE YOU DO ALL THIS. File to read file:///mnt/cdrom/RH-DOCS/rhl-cg-en-8.0/s1-custom-kernel.html or so. Search engine keywords :- REDHAT LINUX 8.0, Psyche 8.0, kernel 2.4.18-14, 2.4.19, patching kernel source, making a kernel, keyboard USB, Compaq internet keyboard, usbkbd.o, HID Boot protocol, Conexant HCF and HSF internal modems.

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RE: sm56 on red hat ....
by Nauzad 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

SM56 is a Winmodem and cannot be detected by Linux. To use it you have to install a file (given in PCQuest July 2001 CD). I followed the steps given in the magazine and will run through them quickly. insert the second CD and go to /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS do # rpm -Uvh sm56-85.1-10.i386.rpm then # sm56setup 852 to check if everything is up and running load the driver. # modprobe sm56 # dmesg your modem will be installed in /dev/modem which points to /mnt/sm56 Configure your internet connection using Kppp etc. and start surfing :) If you need more help goto http://linmodems.org or write to SM56LinuxSupport(a)motorola.com -----Original Message----- From: kedar sapre [mailto:kedarsapre@vsnl.net] I am trying it to configure for my RH 7.2 box , but it damn not working .... If u were really able to connect to internet with SM56 on RH 7.2 , please let me know , how did you manage to configure ?

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[ILUG-BOM][OT] CD Writer
by Abhijeet More 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

Hi, I am about to get a Cd Writer. I would like to have opinions from people on the list about the best option for me. I would most likely go for an internal IDE device ... with a budget of about Rs. 4500/- And of course it has to work with Linux ... which I believe should not be an issue anymore. Thanks Abhijeet More PS: A few days ago I had read a post from an alter ego on the list ... I believe it was Abhijeet Mhatre ... Are you still around??

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Thanks !
by Lorenzo 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

Hi Rupesh.. I only want to say you thanks.. :) I try for such a long time to resolv some problem with my new adsl connection but linux red hat don't give the right routing... and finally I found your post: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20020729/005635.htm l and it resolv all my problem ! :) Xelon.It is now on my own web-server... sorry for the bad english but I'm an italian boy.. Tnx Again ! Lorenzo.

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need for lex and yacc for Mandrake 9.0
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

hello, i use Mandrake 9.0. however for some reason this distro does not provide with lex, yacc, flex and bison. i downloaded flex and bison but it would be better if i get lex and yacc as well. can any one tell me where i can download lex and yacc? regards -Nikhil _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

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smtp service for home
by quasar＠vsnl.net 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

I have got cable internet which wipes out the use of the VSNL smtp services. I have the windows and the Linux client (thanks Mitul for the link). I need to have SMTP services both on windows(brother needs it) & on Linux(I use it). I have exim installed on Linux and have to configure it. Is there any smtp server available for windows? Also can anyone point out any particular documents relating to home smtp service configuration? thanks.

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books for sale/
by akshaysalkar 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 5) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 6) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 7) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 8) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 9) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 450 10) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 11) Using Linux - Gunter - Rs. 270 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re route
by slash_axl_rose 20 Oct '02

20 Oct '02

plug-mail(a)plug.org.in, linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi all my last message to route was replied by somebody tellin me that ipv6 doesn't realy help in reducing routing table entries...Well then my question is what does Aggreagate Global unicast address having TLA (top level aggregator )field and heirarchical structure useful for??? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] I need help with Redhat Linux 7.3
by Hrushikesh Tilak 20 Oct '02

20 Oct '02

Run linuxconf>control>Mount/Unmount filesystems>Control Configured local drives. Hrushikesh Tilak. >From: Nauzad Tantra <nauzad(a)vsnl.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] I need help with Redhat Linux 7.3 >Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 07:58:02 +0530 > >Hi, >I'm a newbie and have just installed Redhat Linux 7.3. I have been unable >to configure the following: > >I can mount the Dos partitions using the mount command. However, I am >unable to mount them at startup by configuring /etc/fstab since I dont know >the entries to be entered in the last 3 columns. eg: noauto,defaults, 0 0 >etc. How do I configure the file. > >I have a Motorola SM 56 Winmodem. The modem drivers that I have (supplied >by PCQuest) used to work on ver7.2 but do not seem to be working here. >Where can I get the drivers from. (If someone has the drivers, be kind and >email them to me please). > >I need to print on a printer connected to a WinNT machine. Will I need to >run Samba on the Linux machine or on the NT machine. Where do I get samba >for WinNT. (Samba does start but does not load the GUI interface on the >Linux machine. How do I get that to work.) > >How do I browse my network if the other machines on the network are all >windows machines. I wish to use and share files and services on other >machines. > >Thats a lot of questions. >Hope i get as many answers. > >Thanks a lot, >Nauzad > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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cyberoam linux client
by quasar＠vsnl.net 20 Oct '02

20 Oct '02

where can I find the [latest] cyberoam client for Linux. I have finally got cable internet. quasi

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I need help with Redhat Linux 7.3
by Nauzad Tantra 19 Oct '02

19 Oct '02

Hi, I'm a newbie and have just installed Redhat Linux 7.3. I have been unable to configure the following: I can mount the Dos partitions using the mount command. However, I am unable to mount them at startup by configuring /etc/fstab since I dont know the entries to be entered in the last 3 columns. eg: noauto,defaults, 0 0 etc. How do I configure the file. I have a Motorola SM 56 Winmodem. The modem drivers that I have (supplied by PCQuest) used to work on ver7.2 but do not seem to be working here. Where can I get the drivers from. (If someone has the drivers, be kind and email them to me please). I need to print on a printer connected to a WinNT machine. Will I need to run Samba on the Linux machine or on the NT machine. Where do I get samba for WinNT. (Samba does start but does not load the GUI interface on the Linux machine. How do I get that to work.) How do I browse my network if the other machines on the network are all windows machines. I wish to use and share files and services on other machines. Thats a lot of questions. Hope i get as many answers. Thanks a lot, Nauzad

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route
by slash_axl_rose 19 Oct '02

19 Oct '02

plug-mail(a)plug.org.in, linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi all may i know how todays isp's take care on everincreasing routing table entries?? (other than cidr,ipv6,don't route:)) bye thnx in advance __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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PVM setting up probs
by Gurpreet Singh 19 Oct '02

19 Oct '02

hi luggerz is their a soul up there who has been working with PVM and can help us with some stuff. we r trying to get PVM up in our labs but are facing probs configuring it plz help Gurpreet & krunal

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[Announce] libyahoo2 ver 0.6.1
by Philip S Tellis 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

libyahoo2 is a C library implementation of the yahoo messenger protocol. You can use it to write your own Yahoo messenger client. Version 0.6.1 has just been released. It contains a fix for the segfault on certain notification packets. Other fixes that just happened to be ready in time for this release: - conference add invite fixes - identity support for conferences NOTE: along with identity support, the conference API has changed. There is an additional parameter that specifies the identity to use. This may be NULL to use the default. See the README and header files for more details. Philip -- November, n.: The eleventh twelfth of a weariness. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

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Re: Workshop @ SPCE / IEEE (19-20 Oct)
by Dinesh Shah 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

Hi LUGers, The organizers of the workshop are kind enough to open the workshop to all. Here is the invitation. Please contact Bala / Vinit directly on their mail address for registration and further details. --------- Dear IEEE members, The IEEE-SPCE student council is organising a workshop on Linux which will be conducted by the GNU/Linux Users Group,Mumbai.The workshop will be held on 19th & 20th of October and will cover the Basics & Advanced Concepts of Linux.All members interested are invited to attend the same. A nominal registration fee would be charged for the workshop,which would be Rs.10 for IEEE members Rs.25 for non-IEEE members. For registration & further details contact: Balasubramanian V (Sabarish Viswanathan <sabarish_v(a)yahoo.co.in>) - TE Electrical Vinit Mahadevan ( vinitmahadevan(a)yahoo.co) ) -TE Electrical -Balasubramanian V.

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Talk at IIT on IndLinux/Computing for the masses
by Frederick Noronha 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

------------------ Speaker: Venkatesh (Venky) Hariharan, Media Lab Asia. Date: 18th October, Friday Venue: KReSIT, Room No.301 , IIT Bombay. Time: 3.30 PM Title: Ind Linux/Computing for the masses Abstract ====== For digital technology to reach the masses, the technology has to speak the common man/woman's language. Sadly, most software, operating systems and applications sold in India are in English. To break this logjam and the market, Indlinux.org is localizing Linux in Indian languages and plans to distribute it free of cost across India. A localized version of Linux in Hindi is in an advanced state of development and will be demonstrated during this talk. The talk with be in two parts; the first part consisting of an overview by Venkatesh (Venky) Hariharan and Prakash Advani, co-founders of the project. This will be followed by a demonstration of the software and a brief overview of what localisation involves by G Karunakar, which will cover: o Internationalization & Localisation basics. o The POSIX o GNU Gettext model o The toolkit approaches o How it all fits in. o What we are doing o Fonts development o Input methods o Translations o Current areas of work o Areas you can contribute/do o QT / KDE o Mozilla o OpenOffice Conclusion Q & A For more information about IndLinux, see www.indlinux.org -----------------------

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Hi Problem in Fetchmail
by funky 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

hi If ur password starts with a number fetchmail gives a error. > Can you please explain me the meaning of the error which i am getting while starting fetchmail > e.g fetchmail -v -v -f /etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc > > fetchmail:/etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc:11:parse error at passwd __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Agenda for workshop @ SPCE / IEEE (19-20 Oct) - Call for Speakers
by Dinesh Shah 17 Oct '02

17 Oct '02

Hi Sachin, On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Sachin wrote: > hi dinesh , > i really appricated ur work for co-ordination for this even > thanx for including me as speacker. Thanks for the kind words... I should thank you for coming forward as a speaker. > you have given me 2 schdules for the topic on PHP , Tcl/tk. > on 19 it ok with only php > but on 20 th it is If you can not make it on 19th let me know. I will make necessary changes in the schedule. But if you can come on both days, we will organize the things more dynamically. > i know little of Apache and Mysql > and nothing of Tomcat and Zope and PostgresSQL > > I am going to speak accrding to the following topics and will cut short them > accroding to the TIME LIMIT > > PHP [10 -15 minutes] > ==== > 1. What is PHP? (introduction) > 2. Some Diffrence between PHP and other web/system scripting languages ASP/Pearl > 3. Features [ Ease Protablity support] > 4. How to Get , Installting , Support[php.net , phpbuilder.com , zend.com] > 5. Development > 5a. Tempalte [dynamic sites , ease of change of db] > 6. PHP + Mysql > 7. Apportinuties > 8. Application [web site of *.edu ] > > > Tcl/Tk [10 -15 minutes] ======== [This is the Tutorial at IBM site at > the link > https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/l-tcl/l-tcl-2-1.html > for this u have to register[Free] with ibm as part of "developerworks" > ] Tcl/Tk quick start Presented by developerWorks, your source for > great tutorials ibm.com/developerWorks Table of Contents If you're > viewing this document online, you can click any of the topics below to > link directly to that section. 1. About this > tutorial....................................................... 2 2. > Tcl/Tk basics > ............................................................ 4 3. The > Tcl language....................................................... 6 > 4. Tk > commands........................................................... 19 > 5. Getting to know > Expect................................................ 25 6. Tcl/Tk > extensions....................................................... 29 > 7. Resources and feedback > ............................................. 32 It look ok... Looking forward to seeing you @ SPCE on 19th and 20th :-) Thanks and regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com dinesh(a)abriasoft.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 098213-11906 Res: (+91-22) 6919423 Tel: (+91-22) 6747120

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux - The Movie
by q u a s i 17 Oct '02

17 Oct '02

At 08:27 morn 10/15/02 -0700, you wrote: >It just contains sound... It is an avi. You probably only have the audio codec. 600Mb of sound will be an awful lot. quasi

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(no subject)
by satyajit balkrishna saste 17 Oct '02

17 Oct '02

Need some help in setting up a cluster.Anyone reading please send me the step by step procedure to set up a cluster.... Thanks..

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