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by SP 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

I am using 7.2 with XFS. The GNOME login screen does not allow root login. I need to login as any other user and then always "su" to root. Any help on this please. --SP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Promoting Linux In India
by Parimal B. Shah 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

I don't seem to fathom the fixation of comparing Desktops? To put it very simply Desktops are for personal users! In govt / educations / business uses the stress should be on purpose built applications. There is no need for fancy desktops! MS is a PERSONAL COMPUTER user (CONSUMER) oriented product. I have seen friends and colleagues buying upgrading their pcs just so that they can talk about it with your friends / colleagues who have just got it. Its like your wife demanding a fully loaded BMW to drop the child to the school just because your neighbour does it in her fully loaded MERC!! It the MO thing, MO GRAPHICS, MO MULTIMEDIA, MO MONEY ....... I bet 90% of the users don't use 90% of its features. Specially in case of India S/w for govt / education / etc it should be no - nonsense, no frills attached, lean and trim and think Linux fits the bill. Parimal Shah

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux......a la carte
by Trevor Warren 16 Apr '02

16 Apr '02

--- Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> wrote: > From: Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Many many thanks Mr Trevor Warren. You have >nicely [snip] hello there Mr. Keyur, Trevor here......... U can just say sir, i am just doin my bit for the community that has given me somethin that i live for and i am proud to be part of. I think Philip has put forward some very good points wich you could make incorporate in ur presentation abt Linux advocacy. If there is anyway i may help to push Free Software usage in our upcoming policies of E-governance .........just mail me nd let me know. Attack will b the buzz word...;) Trevor Warren > put your > thoughts. It seems to me that not many people on > this list are > really interested in promoting Linux. Or that they > have not taken this > very seriously. Or they don't have much faith in our > Government. > Thanks and regards, > Keyur ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Promoting Linux
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 16 Apr '02

16 Apr '02

Hi, A little more from my side too. Linux is/should be treated just like anyother Desktop OS. Like Unix and Windows , Linux can be made as a server with much more flexible environment . At the same time this OS has more more power as a Desktop OS as compared to any other operating system in the market. The strength lies in understanding and working with the utilities provided by the open source community. These are simple marvellous. Also the graphics resolution on the desktop of this os is far better than Windows. Linux gives the feel of Unix and the easy of Windows- a perfect os. Cheers, Darshan The trouble with life is, you're half way through it before you realize it's a "do it yourself" thing. =========================== _\ /_ mail-me-at : darshanw(a)blackcodemail.com / \ ===========================

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qmail book
by Girish Hanchate 16 Apr '02

16 Apr '02

Hi, can anybody suggest same good book on qmail on linux or any informative sites on qmail. Rgds girish __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by nici bhatt 16 Apr '02

16 Apr '02

Hi It is really good to know that out government is willing to promote linux , it will be really good idea to push this at extreme level so no doubt can cause this idea a premature death. Here I have some points to raise my voice for, and they are as we should not make any point which make this operating system is nice for email,firewall and proxy...etc. specific as I have seen lots of people use linux for this purpose so my request to all of you is dont try to prove that by doing this we can save lots of money because we know that this true but on other side you are doing injustice to all open source developers who have put their efforts for porting other application and this full scal os limits to one corner. So moral of story please come out of this mind frame that this is all linux can do. There are lot many things that can be done. So keep vary general attitude and try to justify it commercially as well as technical aspect of the operating system, I mean limitation of other operating system, commercial and technical comparison chart and availability. I will defiantly like to write some article on this issue but that will take some time so till then you people can contribute lots . Happy usage of linux. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by Suryaprakash Kompalli 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

Hey Keyur - This is my 2pence - (subject to critical review of the grp :)) Im sorry for the late reply, though, man - Under the heading Demand profile segments - Education - Competent training in the academia demands the availability of wide range of resources. These resources need to be in the form of example source code, Workable Systems, whose internals can be studied. As an example, Many US universities, have switched from Unix based classes in Operating Systems to Linux and GNU - Based OS, because of the free availability of source code and the opportunity for students to experiment with a reconfigurable system. Students in many Indian universities and colleges too are demanding the prescence of such reconfigurable labs in their premises. If there is official coursework that enables them to use such resources, it would be a great help. Linux and GNU - Software provides to the academia an excellent platform to test their skills, learn and apply them to real-time situations. The usage of GNU - based software in scientific fields like Supercomputing, Image Processing, AI, and other related fileds is already very widespread - it only to be identified. Most of the toolboxes developed by US university labs (and other universities too) includes OSC s/w. Support for OSC is not just in the form of company-based support as in proprietory s/w like windows. Due to the OSC nature of the s/w resources, A large number of user and help groups are available online. This takes education out of the classroom - Making knowledge widely available and affordable. Usage of Linux in the academia is not something that needs numbers to prove itself. It is pure common sense - The academia needs the most information and knowledge it can get - and OSC provides at every student the support, help and encouragement of thousands of OSC programmers all over the world. Need we say more? Hey yes - forgot to add - Lets see a non-OSC s/w do its' thing like OSC s/w does on a REALLY old machine - OSC software exists that can run on very basic systems - Very cheap systems could be of great use to educational organizations. This will enable even wider reach of resources at a lower cost. Action Plan - Introduce Linux and OSC based s/w as a defacto standard in Indian educational institutes. Developing coursework that encourages students to use such systems, and more importantly, learn how such systems are different from non-OSC systems. Encourage the use and development of re-distributable toolboxes among research organizations. Enjoy!!!! Bye, SP On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Keyur Shroff wrote: > Hi Friends, > > A good news is that our central government is also taking deep > interest in promoting Linux in all area. Government wants various > agencies to give some feedback on the information related to > Linux. They have sent a draft to NCST also. > > I think this mailing list is the best place where I can post the > questions and get answers so that I can forward the information to our > government. Please give as much input as you can. > > I am directing the revised information/feedback format on "Linux > India Initiatives" for your kind consideration and input. The format > is as follows : > > "Linux India Initiatives" > > Information may kindly be furnised under the following heads : > 1. Linux - The need; > 2. Demand profile segments - such as Home, Education, Research, Govt, > Defence, Business, Embedded systems etc. > 3. Present scenario (International) vs competing products > 4. Issues to resolve : > (i) Indian Language Support > (ii) Security > (iii) Awareness/education > (iv) Certification > (v) Standardisation > (vi) Service Model vs product model > (vii) Identification of minimal set of application > 5. Transition strategy - Unix to Linux, legacy port > 6. Consortium for linux based collaborative Development? > The Li18nux, OSDL, LSB...? > 7. Action Plan > > Kindly send your views/comments as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > Keyur > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > __ __ |__ |__| |/ __|urya |rakash |\ompalli Email - kompalli(a)cse.buffalo.edu Finger - kompalli(a)cse.buffalo.edu Phone - Home - (716) 862 0366 (67,Lisbon Ave,BUF) - Work - (716) 645 6164 X 519 (CEDAR, UB Commons) Website - http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~kompalli

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIP] Getting the yahoo protocol - updat
by Tahir Hashmi 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

http://sprint.bantu.com This is an applet based messenger that works with Yahoo! --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: VPN with two invalid IPs
by nici bhatt 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

hi please give us more info as even client side also you will require nating or public IP address so can you elaborate your case. as this is possible vpn with nating will work fine, If you are not using new kernel then you have to have port forwarding mechanisam other wise this will not work through nating. so please give more details about your network. nici >From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: VPN with two invalid IPs >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:49:36 +0600 > >+++ Amish Mehta [01/04/02 17:46 +0530]: > > Hi, > > > > I want to connect my home and office computers(atleast share files, > > full TCP/IP would be best). But the problem is both computers > > have invalid IPs 172.16.x.x and I do not have control over gateways to >The invalid IP range will not be a problem. Just ensure that they are in >different subnets. >At least one of the systems will need a static IP address. >Run the VPN server on this system. The other system will act as a client. > > > setup VPN(one on in2 cable network, other on star cable network). I > > can keep both computers on 24 hrs, having access to internet via > > their local gateways. But I do not know how they will find each other. >One of them needs a static IP address, > > > Currently I manually email and download files but is there a way I > > can actually FTP to and fro? >I would recommend scp actually, but you need the VPN first. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >People are very flexible and learn to adjust to strange >surroundings -- they can become accustomed to read Lisp and >Fortran programs, for example. >- Leon Sterling and Ehud Shapiro, Art of Prolog, MIT Press >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CyberRoam Linux Client
by Amish Mehta 14 Apr '02

14 Apr '02

Hi, Can you give us the official link? Or you managed to get it from your cablewala? Thanks. Amish. Trevor Warren wrote: >--> Luggers..this is the CyberRoam software that has > http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com/rel/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: VPN with two invalid IPs
by Amish Mehta 14 Apr '02

14 Apr '02

Devdas Bhagat wrote: > >+++ Amish Mehta [01/04/02 17:46 +0530]: >> Hi, >> >> I want to connect my home and office computers(atleast share files, >> full TCP/IP would be best). But the problem is both computers >> have invalid IPs 172.16.x.x and I do not have control over gateways to >The invalid IP range will not be a problem. Just ensure that they are in >different subnets. >At least one of the systems will need a static IP address. >Run the VPN server on this system. The other system will act as a client. Yes IPs are static but NOT valid. I think you mean valid and not static. Btw I dont think different subnet is required as far as I can route IP packets to VPN interface. The problem is I dont have control over gateways(who masquerade my packets) so I cannot setup simple forwarding to VPN. Amish.

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Re: [gtkyahoo-devel] Re: [LIP] Getting the yahoo protocol - updates and request for help
by Philip S Tellis 14 Apr '02

14 Apr '02

Sometime on Apr 12, Jeremy Zawodny assembled some asciibets to say: > You can try crashing mine ('jzawodn'). I should have debug version of > the official client that will help out here. Well, I can't do that because I can't login anymore - YPSN2 isn't supported. -- It's hard to drive at the limit, but it's harder to know where the limits are. -- Stirling Moss

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Re[3]: [ILUG-BOM] Yahoo off again
by Vinay Pai 13 Apr '02

13 Apr '02

>> However, it can be immune to a passive attack, i.e. simply listening >> to communications go back and forth. To break it one would need to >> reverse-engineer the Yahoo program. > > Not necessarily. Just a thought - the libcrypto library being used is > free software, so why not just restrict our tracing to what goes into > and what comes out of MD5_* functions. That should give us a fair idea > of how the hash is being generated. I've done a preliminary analysis, > and judging by the number of calls to MD5_Update, I'm guessing that this > is almost identical to how pam generates passwords. What's the > probability that yahoo would use the same tried and tested algorithm > rather than develop their own? Hmm.. if they're using libcrypto then I suppose it should be possible to trace it and break the protocol... basically catch the stuff before it gets hashed! Could you send me details of your analysis? Since Yahoo's been deliberately trying to kill clones, I'd assumed they'd used some kinda statically linked crypto functions... something fairly trivial to do.

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Getting the yahoo protocol - updates and request for help
by Philip S Tellis 13 Apr '02

13 Apr '02

Ok, for those who've been following the thread, here's an update from my side. NOTE: Throughout this explanation, ctx, ctx1, ctx2, ctx3 ... are md5 contexts, final and final2 are md5 data arrays (unsigned char[16]) the same variable name refers to the same variable always ie, scope of variables is this mail. 1. Yahoo uses the exact same algorithm as pam does to generate MD5 passwords. You can get the source for this from the pam package. Look in modules/pam_unix/md5_crypt.c:MD5Name(crypt_md5)() There is only one minor change that does not affect the outcome of the code, and that is the calls to MD5_Update with ctx1 happen before the calls to MD5_Update with ctx (if you see the code, it'll make more sense, or I can explain then). 2. There are four more calls to the MD5 library. The first does this: MD5_Init(&ctx2); MD5_Update(&ctx2, passwd, strlen(passwd)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx2); MD5_Init(&ctx3); MD5_Update(&ctx3, str, strlen(str)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx3); str is obtained by appending/prepending something to the username. That something is 49 bytes in length. The last two calls are: MD5_Init(&ctx4); MD5_Update(&ctx4, str2, strlen(str2)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx4); MD5_Init(&ctx5); MD5_Update(&ctx5, str3, strlen(str3)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx5); str3 is also derived from the username, again with a 49 byte string appended/prepended to it. str2 seems to be 34 characters in length always. This data was obtained through statistical analysis of function calls. We still haven't determined what the actual contents of str, str2, str3 or the salt are. Once we have this, I believe we will have cracked it completely. If anyone wants to figure it out, you have to somehow get the data that's being passed to MD5_Update. The first call is the password, the second call is with str. You need to figure out how str is derived. The next three calls are password, magic ($1$ I think), salt (8 chars). The next three are password, salt, password. Try and figure out how salt is derived, and if magic is different from $1$, what is it? Is it constant across calls? Then, look at the last two calls to MD5_Update - calls number 3536 and 3537. No 3536 seems to be constant, but someone will have to confirm this. No 3537 is derived from the username. Figure out how. Philip -- Spock: We suffered 23 casualties in that attack, Captain.

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] Yahoo off again
by Vinay Pai 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

Hi, > What do you think we're trying to do? The official yahoo client uses an > MD5 Challenge/Response pair that is near impossible to crack. I don't know anything about the Yahoo protocol etc. But speaking from a purely cryptographic stand point, this protocol necessarily has to be crackable. In the absence of an external key (i.e. one entered by the user) there is no way to prevent one program from imitating another. However, it can be immune to a passive attack, i.e. simply listening to communications go back and forth. To break it one would need to reverse-engineer the Yahoo program. > If you can, please help. If it is legal to do it, I can try to disassemble and reverse-engineer the Yahoo protocol. > Get a packet sniffer (I think you already have one), tcpdump? > and start working on the authentication part. Look for tcp connects on > port 5050 from your machine with the PUSH flag set to 1. Regards, Vinay <vinay(a)vinaypai.com>

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[Fwd: GNU/Linux Indianization]
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Dr Deepak B Phatak <dbp(a)it.iitb.ac.in> To: all(a)it.iitb.ac.in, faculty(a)cse.iitb.ac.in Subject: GNU/Linux Indianization Date: 06 Apr 2002 02:08:36 +0530 Dear ALL With regard to this important topic, an event is being organized in KReSIT on 9th April. I have given the details in the enclosed write up. Those of you interested in this work are most welcome. Equally important is to ensure that enthusiastic students interested in this area should also participate. But I have no direct way to reach them in this short time. Could I therefore request you to forward this mail to students of your department. Also, I would like to request LUG member(s) from KReSIT to advertise this event amongst the GNU/Linux community. Thanks - dbp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Currently, there is a lack of a good software system which can handle Indian languages. There are a few Multi-lingual office productivity tools. But this is far from the full range of tools that make a computer useful. Till now, work in this field has involved disparate groups, working in isolation, developing closed products. These products have not gained popularity, and lack inter-operability. Since most of the products developed today are closed source, we cannot modify them to support all the functionality required by computers to work comfortably in and with Indian Languages. We believe that the solution lies in Free Software, like GNU/Linux, which can be customized to support Indian languages. Free Software has the advantage of outliving any one team of developers, and of collaborative development, where people build on each other's strengths to arrive at a superior product. This effort will gift us with our own operating system, capable of dealing with Indian languages, and guarantee our freedom of use. >From various discussions with Dr Mudur, I have come to realize that Indian languages are immensely difficult to represent on computers, since they are phonetic, and not linear (like English). Yet, it is widely believed that the problem is not of a technical nature but a project management failure. There is enough talent in India to give us an Indian Language UNIX, one which can finally take computing to the masses. To initiate some concerted action in this direction, the School of IT proposes to organize a short talk (as per schedule below) followed by a discussion. The talk will cover the basic issues in localization, and what is the current status of Indianization in GNU/Linux. We also plan to collect details and status of as many efforts as can be culled out from the audience. This, of course, would be an on going process. Venue: 3rd floor classroom, KReSIT, IIT Bombay. Day and Date: Tuesday, 9th April Time: 16:00 Hrs. ALL INTERESTED, irrespective of department and Institutional affiliations are most welcome to participate. To permit effective handling of logistics concerning tea and snacks, I request to send an email with subject "will attend on 9th" (message text may be just blank) to any one of the following: sameerds(a)it.iitb.ac.in vikram(a)mayin.org dbp(a)it.iitb.ac.in Thanks - Deepak ---------------------------------------------- Dr. Deepak B Phatak Subrao Nilekani Chair & Head Kanwal Rekhi School of Information Technology Indian Institute of Technology Bombay Mumbai 400 076, India Phone: (Off) +91 22 5767900/01/02 (Res) +91 22 5768747, 5724611 Fax: +91 22 5720022, 5723480 email: dbp(a)it.iitb.ac.in ---------------------------------------------- -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, Hostel 2, Room 76 KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. Internal: 5602 Phone: 5767901 extn 5787 External: 5720023, 5721006 or 5722545 extn 5787 5720064 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Compare thinking about doing nothing and actually doing nothing; they are distinct enterprises. -- Philip Wadler -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #444 - 14 msgs
by gurjit dhillon 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

thanks ranjeet, actually i am using vpop3d with sendmail not with qmail, i am trying to solve this with sendmail only gurjit >Hi gurjit. > >Assuming foo.com is your domain for which you want to create a >catchall >account .... > > >Create a file as .qmail-default file in your foo.com's mail >directory. >(i'm using vpopmail and my directory structure is like >/home/vpopmail/domains/foo.com/ ) > > -rw------- 1 vpopmail vchkpw 93 Mar 20 23:23 >.qmail-default > >it will have content like >#cat .qmail-default >| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeliverymail '' >/home/vpopmail/domains/foo.com/bar > > >bar is the default directory(account) in the same foo.com. >or else u can also use email id in the same file as > >&bar(a)foo.com > > >Regards, >Ranjeet > >PS: Also you need to make sure before posting query to give your >config >details. > > > > > > > >gurjit dhillon writes: > > > > > dear sir, > > > > can any one tell me how to configure catchall account in >vpop3d pop > > serever. > > > > else every thing is working fine, but my catchall a/c is not >working, it > > says unkonown users and bounce back. > > > > thanks in advance > > > > waiting for reply > > > > gurjit >

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Yahoo off again
by Philip S Tellis 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

It seems that yahoo has figured out whatever we've been trying to log in and have disabled those methods as well. If anyone knows of any client that can still log in, please tell me. Philip -- The bugs you have to avoid are the ones that give the user not only the inclination to get on a plane, but also the time. -- Kay Bostic

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FORTRAN 90 on Linux
by Desai Ashish 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

Dear Luggers, I m a Student and wanna 2 use Fortran 90 compiler on Linux. At the time of installation i've seen that its also including Fortran 90's compiler. But my problem is that I don't know the steps by which I can be able to write Fortran codes and get it compiled on Linux machine. So, can ne body help me out.....?????? Thanx in advance. Regards, [Ashish Desai] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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help require in vpop3d
by gurjit dhillon 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

dear sir, can any one tell me how to configure catchall account in vpop3d pop serever. else every thing is working fine, but my catchall a/c is not working, it says unkonown users and bounce back. thanks in advance waiting for reply gurjit

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [LIH] Yahoo off again
by Amish Mehta 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Ok. I will try. I have done some work in past on MD5 authentication algorithm used by Outlook Express for Hotmail. Where do I find your archives?, I mean can you give me start page for Linux India Help as I am not a member of that list. Thanks. Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: >What do you think we're trying to do? The official yahoo client uses an >MD5 Challenge/Response pair that is near impossible to crack. If you >can, please help. Get a packet sniffer (I think you already have one), >and start working on the authentication part. Look for tcp connects on >port 5050 from your machine with the PUSH flag set to 1.

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Re: [LIH] Yahoo off again
by Amish Mehta 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Cant libyahoo, gtkyahoo imitate the yahoo's official client? Then there would be no way yahoo can switch things around because there own client would not work then. Anyway I dont have any idea about how libyahoo and gtkyahoo works but thats what I think should be. Btw, isnt yahoo's official client good enough? I think it is almost same as windows yahoo client except no 'chat' feature is available. Amish. P.S. what is LIH in subject line? mallet(a)efn.org (Suresh Ramasubramanian) wrote: >It is quite likely that, if instructed by yahoo to do so, they will find >it pretty trivial to "figure out" what you are doing and switch things >around. I think they figure "do this often enough and wait for the open >source IM clients to get tired of it" :)

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Commercial - Vacancies for post of Customer Support Executive
by Prashant M 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Dear Linux Users, We( Logix Consultancy Group P ltd.)are a software solution provider based in Mumbai.We offer our customers Professional Services on linux like o Mail Server, Proxy Server & Firewall deployment on Linux Technologies We also have our own dedicated server at reliance data center through which we offer o SMTP mail Services o Application server (mail, database or custom apps hosting) o Web server o FTP Services o Chat & Messaging services We are looking for Linux Professional well-versed with sendmail or qmail or postfix and squid proxy for the post of Customer support executive. If interested kindly meet in person immediately. Yours Faithfully, For Logix Consultancy Group P Ltd. Prashant Mudbidri LOGIX CONSULTANCY GROUP P LTD. 01,Ashoka Complex, Ranade Road Dadar (W), Mumbai - 400 028 Tel: 4330106 / 4366591 / 4211860 / 4376857 Email : prashant(a)lcgindia.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] dsl or cable
by Amish Mehta 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

I think 16K = 16 kilobytes(what browsers show) and 128K = 128 kilobits(your allocated speed). So dont worry, you are getting a perfect speed as 16*8=128. :-) Amish. Prakash Shetty wrote: >Well i get an average of 16K on this line ... mine is a so called 128K

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] More mounting problems
by Tahir Hashmi 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Specify the filesystem as vfat in /etc/fstab. AFAIK, Linuxconf is broken. On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:42:26 Bhargav Bhatt wrote: >Hi all, >I tried making my linux kernel mount my FAT32 windows partition at >startup by making an entry into /etc/fstab using linuxconf > [Snip] --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [offtopic] Books for Sale !
by akshaysalkar 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

i guess phillip tellis doesnt understand english. or he cant read whats written. it clearly states ' 20-22% off normal price ' ie. the original book price. -- linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: Sometime Today, akshaysalkar assembled some asciibets to say: > Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate > (ie.20%-22%off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some Just for the record, all computer books sold in India MUST be sold at 20% off the marked price. Of course, if you don't ask your book wala for it, he might just happen to overlook it too. Are you selling it at 20% off after the initial 20% off? -- Air is water with holes in it. _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] dsl or cable
by Tahir Hashmi 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:48:29 Prakash Shetty wrote: >Well i get an average of 16K on this line ... mine is a so called 128K > 16kBps or 16kbps? If it's the former, you're getting what you are supposed to --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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dsl or cable
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

I am getting a choice of braodband access in the sense that I am being offered DSL (Dishnet) and Cable access (Hathway). both are costing *almost* the same as far as monthly/yearly dues, though if I opt for a personal cable modem, I will have to pay a little more (~8000 bucks) for the modem. I want to know if someone has used these services. Which one would be preferable. What should I look out for ? What are the queries I need to get answered from both these chaps ? I already asked if they are blocking port 80 as I will get a static IP and would like to host my site myself. The guy I spoke to did not know about the port 80 stuff so he will get back to me. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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mail bounce in sendmail...
by Nilesh Kahar 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

hello llist, i m using sendmail as my e-mail server ...linux kernel is 2.2..my server bounces mails which has got . (dot) in e-mail address like nilesh.kahar(a)yahoo.com . other mailing is working fine. can anybody resolve my problem? Nilesh. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

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Everybuddy RPMs
by Philip S Tellis 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

Some people had asked me where they could get the latest rpms/tarballs for everybuddy. These are the links to the same. The guy who made them did this last batch over ssh from a win98 machine and hasn't tested them, so, please test them and let us know :) http://www2.goddamn.co.uk/me/tech/linux/RPM/RPMS/i686/everybuddy-0.3.0pre-t… http://www2.goddamn.co.uk/me/tech/linux/RPM/SRPMS/everybuddy-0.3.0pre-tai20… http://www2.goddamn.co.uk/me/tech/linux/RPM/SOURCES/everybuddy-0.3.0pre-tai… Philip

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pine or mutt?
by Nikhil Joshi 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hi! I've found that there is a cult following as far as mail agents and editors are concerned. A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent. I would like to discuss about mail agent here (I use vi and I love it ;) I use pine and it suffices most of my needs. Has anyone used both pine and mutt extensively? What in your opinon is more powerful and user friendly? when I enter mutt the inital UI is not inviting and I'm forced to press the q key :) I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt. -- "If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently." -Calvin's dad

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ACPI tables error
by am_rahul 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hello Anurag, I saw your mail regarding 'ACPI tables not in Reclaim Memory'.Even I am get'n the same error & the screen turns blank. Were you able to find a soln. for the problem ? If yes then will it be possible for you to forward me the soln. Thanks in Advance, Rahul Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] konqueror and java applets
by Amish Mehta 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Yes yahoo pool(yahoo games) works. Amish. Manish Jethani wrote: >You have to enable Java in Konqueror (it's disabled by default). > Have you done that?

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Woody on db.ilug-bom.org.in
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Is the Woody Distro kept at db.ilug-bom.org.in good enough??? I mean, can I download it without bothering to update it regularly??? And will the updates be available on ILUG site??? Or should I prefer Potato-R3??? I don't have fast enough connection to update it regularly... Kunal ---------------------- Real Users find the one combination of bizarre input values that shuts down the system for days.

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konqueror and java applets
by Amish Mehta 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hi, I am trying to run Yahoo chat(through http://chat.yahoo.com) on konqueror but it doesnt show anything(except frames at bottom, menu frame and advt. frame) and X shows following error: Font specified in font.properties not found [--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] I did xlsfonts and found -adobe-symbol... font to be present. So I replaced --symbol with -adobe-symbol in /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_02/jre/lib/fonts.properties file and the error changes to Font specified in font.properties not found [-adobe-symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] So I wonder where does it search for fonts. I have no idea about if what I did was correct so i un-did it. Is it konqueror problem, java problem or yahoo problem(only IE/Netscape allowed?)? Surprisingly, Yahoo Pool works very well in konqueror. Also yahoo chat works on Netscape without any problem. So how do I enable yahoo chat in konqueror. Do i have to install or tweak something in konqueror(or java)? I have konqueror 2.1.1(KDE 2.1.2) with java from jdk 1.3.1_02. Netscape version in communicator 4.77 with its own internal JRE. Amish.

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Connecting to roltawith wvdial
by Anirudh Shivaswamy 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

I am unable to connect to rolta with wvdial . wvdial is able to connect to the rolta server , but says "Returning not OK!" after trying to verify username and password . I have kernel 2.2.16BOOT . I have no way to use any other kernel , since I use loadlin to boot from Win98 SE . what should i do to connect to internet?

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gaim and Yahoo!
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Hi, Here's an update on the current game of hide-and-seek with Yahoo! You can get gaim to work again by setting the pager host for your Yahoo! account as "cs40.msg.sc5.yahoo.com" Sameer. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfigurable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Yahoo
by Philip S Tellis 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

I think everybuddy is working with yahoo again - at least it works for me. Get the CVS and test please. Send bugs to me. Philip -- "Neo. I hope the Oracle gave you some good news." -- Apoc, "The Matrix"

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[offtopic] Books for Sale !
by akshaysalkar 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie.20%-22%off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Programming Perl 3/e - Larry Wall - Rs. 450 - O'Rielly 2) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Rs. 100 - Techmedia 3) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Rs. 200 - BPB 4) Building Linux Clusters - David Spector - Rs.220 - O'Rielly 5) Using Linux Special Edition - Rs.200 - Prentice Hall 6) Design of the Unix OS - Maurice Bach - Rs. 150 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Debian CDs Wanted
by Vishal 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Greetings. I need the Debian CDs. Am too bored to download the iso images. Can anyone kindly lend me their CDs (non-US release) ? I will just copy them and return them in a day. Else anybody selling these CDs for a reasonable cost? I also need a suggestion about whether to use Potato or Woody. I am at Lokhandwala, Andheri (W), Bombay. Please email me off-list so as not to annoy other members. Vishal.

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GNU/Linux Internationalisation
by vinayak hegde 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

hi linux users, I thought ppl might find the following links useful in localisation of linux to the indian environment - --> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/whitepapers/gtki18n/gtki18n.ps (PostScript Version) --> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/whitepapers/gtki18n/index.html (HTML Version) -- vinayak hegde

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how to crack linux root password
by Manish Jethani 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Use this command to crack linux root password: echo '82 43/25 43+65P80P82P73P76P32P70P79P79P76P10P' | dc Now! Get your sysad fired! Manish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Renaming user-id
by Amish Mehta 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Nikhil Joshi wrote: >I looked at /etc/passwd file more carefully and found this > >shutdown:x:6:0:shutdown:/sbin:/sbin/shutdown >halt:x:7:0:halt:/sbin:/sbin/halt > >are these users ? Anybody in /etc/passwd is logically a user, but in general ftp, mail, daemon, bin etc are system users, used by daemons(background processes, run ps aux) I dont have any idea about purpose of halt and shutdown users. Try man halt or man shutdown. >Can I halt without logging in ? You cant halt/reboot unless you login as root(superuser). You can however reboot by pressing ctrl-alt-del on local terminals OR switching the computer off ;-). Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Renaming user-id
by Amish Mehta 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

You should also change(rename) the user login name(the first field) in /etc/shadow. Amish. Nikhil Joshi wrote: > >Is there any way of renaming an user logon >I tried to rename the user in /etc/passwd but it didn't work

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Offline News browsing using Pine
by Nikhil Joshi 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Hi! Just configured the news-server using pine But it doesn't dnld the messages. I have to read them online :( Mozilla News also has same prob Is there any newseader which dnlds selected messages for offline reading ? Can I configure pine to do it ? -- "Mom knows EVERYTHING" -Calvin

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Renaming user-id
by Nikhil Joshi 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Is there any way of renaming an user logon I tried to rename the user in /etc/passwd but it didn't work Please help. -- "My ethicator machine must've had a built-in moral compromise spectral release phantasmatron! I'm a genius!" --- Calvin

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Query re regex
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Hi Philip, I downloaded your lecture on regex from the ACM website. I have a query; I am a bit confused with the following lines from your examples. [A-Z^] - match anything from A-Z or ^ [-A-Z] - match anything from A-Z or- [+-*/] - match anything from + to * and / [-+*/] - match - + * / Does the first line mean match anything from A to Z or A to ^ ? or does it mean match anything from A to Z or match ^ ? similarly if you could also explain the other three lines please. I am writing to the list so tha teveryone can benefit from the answer. Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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Internet Connection Settings.
by Michael Rodrigues 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hi, I recently took a new internet connection from my local cable operator.He has configured Win98 and set up the gateway as a proxy server too. I tried setting up my Slack 8 box with the same settings as in Win98 (ip add,netmask etc), but I keep gettting the same error: SIOADDRT:Network unreachable. How does one configure linux to use a proxy server at boot time? Am I missing something really obvious out here? Could someone please point me in the right dircetion? Regards, Michael. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Help reg Proxy Settings
by Michael Rodrigues 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hi, I recently took a new internet connection from my local cable operator.He has configured Win98 and set up the gateway as a proxy server too. I tried setting up my Slack 8 box with the same settings as in Win98 (ip add,netmask etc), but I keep gettting the same error: SIOADDRT:Network unreachable. Am I missing something really obvious out here? Could someone please point me in the right dircetion? Regards, Michael. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Set Date into CMOS?
by Steven Rebello 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

how do i set the CMOS date to current system date without reboot in linux? steven Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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