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Re: FTP Problem
by Abhir Joshi 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

Bhargav wrote: > over it, I am not able to do it.....dunno why.....also, wu-ftpd does not > load on start up....{or so I think}...thanx in advance... Yes, It doesnt load on startup. wu-ftpd will be started by `xinetd' whenever you try to connect to it using a FTP client. `xinetd' should be running for this to happen. First `su' to root. Then enable wu-ftpd by setting the option `disable = no' in the file /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd. Then start xinetd by doing /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd start OR if xinetd is already running do /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart Abhir _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Commercial] Latest cds available from Enterux Solutions
by Sales - Enterux 02 Mar '02

02 Mar '02

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FTP Problem
by Bhargav 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

Oops... I am sorry for posting the subject incorrectly. So here we go This may seem redundant but I need the solution to my problem and any feedback will be appreciated. I am want to set up an FTP only server on my desktop computer's linux partition so that I can share files with my friends as I used to in windows using Serv U. I don't intend to use this computer as a server for any other type of protocol such as HTTP, etc. I have the wu-ftp daemon (wu-ftpd) installed on my Red Hat 7.2 partition. Now here is my problem. How do I setup user a/cs for my FTP server. I know the answer to this is rather easy but despite hours of scratching my head over it, I am not able to do it.....dunno why.....also, wu-ftpd does not load on start up....{or so I think}...thanx in advance... Orcaa !!

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Linux is not reliable . Windows Still rulez
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:39:06 Amish K. Munshi wrote: > Yes I agree with you, but I most of the work that we require to >do is available as a GUI toolkit. And however integrated we are to the >Linux systems, we would love to use the graphical version of linuxconf >rather than the text version. There's a learning curve. When I started out, I was averse to the command line too. But as I began discovering commands for things that went click-click, I found myself using the command line more and more. The reason is simple - it's easier to issue a command than fire up a GUI, sift thru the tabs and buttons et al. Say, you want to add a user to a new group. How'd you do it in GUI? Fire up Linuxconf, expand the trees till you reach the users area (I've forgotten what Linuxconf looked like, so it's a somewhat inexact reproduction), click on that user and then in his/her property sheet, specify the group somewhere. That done, you click the "Activate" button and then "Quit" hoping that things went fine. Same thing on the command line: # usermod -G <group>[, ...] <user> There's a command - apropos - that searches for the supplied keywords in short descriptions of all the entries in man pages. So, if you're looking for disk management commands, you can do: $ apropos disk and get a list of commands that have the word "disk" in their descriptions. I don't say that GUI is bad. The user should figure out when to use what tool. As a rule of thumb, use a GUI tool when you are going to use a majority of the features it offers. So I may use LinuxConf when I get down to configuring my system after a fresh install. But not for the occasional tweaks and mods. Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Fwd: GPL is taking court action
by Navin Dhanuka 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

GPL is taking court action against a violator. The FSF is taking legal action against "Progress Software Corp." who attempted to ship a binary of "Gemini" -- a mysql storage module without providing sources. Progress Software sells a CDROM called NuSphere MySQL Advantage. This contains various applications like Apache, PHP and MySQL. As a very important part of HA database services and crash recovery, Gemini is very popular. But the source code is under wraps . ie A GPL violation by Progress Software. The question is not about GPL standing for trial, but the point about MySQL AB selling ``dual licensed'' editions and Progress Software not being allowed. IMHO GPL will win ! [-SNIP-] EBEN MOGLEN's Affidavit : 19-a.. Redistribution must itself occur under GPL and only GPL, with no additional license conditions. (See Exhibit B, §2(b)); 19-b.. Redistribution must include ``source code,'' the human-readable form of computer programs that allows programmers to understand and modify computer programs for themselves, as opposed to ``object code,'' which is the ``machine language'' version of computer programs that is very difficult for programmers to understand or modify 19-c.. Redistribution must include a copy of the GPL, so that users are aware of their rights to use, copy, modify and distribute, and so that anyone engaged in redistribution is also aware of the conditions under which redistribution is permitted. ...... 35.. I then checked whether the source code of the Gemini component of mysqld was available. I saw that it was not. I used standard tools to ``recompile'' mysqld, which means to rebuild the program from the parts provided, and discovered that the rebuilt mysqld did not include Gemini capacity. In a manual distributed in the portion of the CD only related to Windows users I found the statement that ```GEMINI' tables will be included in some future MySQL 3.23.X source distribution.'' ...... 38.. Under GPL §4, I conclude, Progress Software Corp. lost the right to distribute MySQL when it distributed NuSphere MySQL Advantage in a fashion that violated GPL. [-END-SNIP-] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux for Win2000
by stanley 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Tahir Hashmi <tahirbond(a)lycos.com> wrote: > > > > http://www.cygwin.com >[snip] > dude....i think he meant...how do i install linux on >windoZe. > >To the creator of this thread...."dude.......Linux is >an O.S by itself and would do with it's own >partitions... linux is not an O.S by itself its a kernel and linux is useless without GNU > http://www.linux.org > http://www.linuxdoc.org > Warren brian noronha

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ACM Seminar
by Philip S Tellis 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

Friday, March 1, 2002 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Reinforcement Learning Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: Reinforcement Learning is all about simulating the manner in which humans would go about learning in real life. So, if you were presented with a game of chess and you did not know how to play it, how would you go about learning it? How would you go about learning it if you were told that out of the six games you played only 2 resulted in a victory? How do you figure out which game you have won? How do you figure out which strategies were successful or which strategies are a strict no-no? These are some of the issues you would face when posed a problem of learning a new concept, or in this case learning a new game. These are exactly the same issues which a system would have to deal with if it were to ever try and learn something using trial-and-error. Now, consider the implications of using such a learning mechanism: exploring the surface of Mars by learning how to navigate on-the-fly, building a world-class checkers-playing program using GAs and NNs, learning to acquire "soft" versions of a dictionary given a parallel corpus, learning new strategies for computer-controlled opponents in the latest 3D first-person shooting game... the list goes on. If you've missed out on the Machine Learning seminar given previously, then this would be a good time to attend the second of the Machine Learning seminars viz. Reinforcement Learning, since, we will recap some of the pertinent basics of Machine Learning, cover the basics of Reinforcement Learning, discuss some of the technologies involved and then round-off with a motivating case study. About the Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde is a fitness-freak going under the guise of a Computer Scientist in the KBCS division at NCST. He claims to be working in the field of Natural Language Technology and have interests in Machine Learning, but one is rarely fortunate enough to see him around and confirm this. His only proof of existence seems to come from some of the articles that he keeps writing rather frequently, his knack for being available for "important" occasions like someone's birthday-treat and his picture on the his home-page. If you have seen him in your locality please dial KBCS and inform them. Please do not expect any rewards for doing so.

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] Problem the older BIOS
by Vinay Pai 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

> Well, > Goldie, I don't understand one thing..... > Your OS is supposed to communicate with BIOS for any device queries. > So if your BIOS itself is not reporting beyond 8GB, how can any OS > detect more than that?? > ( Correct me if I'm wrong........ ) Yep... you are wrong. The BIOS used to play a major role during the 16-bit real mode days. DOS used the bios for I/O as did Win3.x and (I think) Win95. Modern OSes talk directly to the disk controller, so after the kernel is loaded the BIOS has no role to play. Thus it is important for the Kernel to be located somewhere the BIOS can access it, but after that it doesn't matter. For Linux this means LILO uses the BIOS but the Kernel doesn't. > Maybe, the best solution could be to upgrade the BIOS or change the > motherboard / BIOS chip. > By this, you'll get rid of any more problems to come. > The new BIOS chips cost about 500 - 800 bucks, I'm not sure just check > it out with a h/w vendor. Its not that simple... BIOSes are very hardware dependent [snip] > The 1024 Cyl. problem is easy to solve. > Just use LBA32 extensions of new LILO. If you BIOS doesn't detect large drives it is quite likely that it doesn't support LBA32 either. LBA32 is a BIOS funda, not LILO.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux for Win2000
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

http://www.cygwin.com --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed On 28 Feb 2002 12:10:07 -000 shahazad wrote: >Hi all, >Can anybody tell me about runnning "Linux on windows 2000". >I have searched all over the net but havent found it for win2000. > >It would be gr8 if anybody would supply me with the download url. > >Thanx >regards ></shahazad> > > >-- >Get your firstname@lastname email at http://Nameplanet.com/?su >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] looking for mail client
by Erle 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

check out http://www.tisya.co.in/indy/ simply stunning... C'ya Erle. On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:42:16 > Manish Jethani wrote: >I'm looking for a [gui] mail client that (doesn't suck)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Letter to spearhead the movement
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 03:24:27 Trevor Warren wrote: > > I am serious abt this pals...so pliss letz get on >with the actual work and finalise the draft as >proposed by mr.lakdawala. > >Trevor Warren > Right Trevor. The letter's fine enough but it might make more sense if we point out some broad issues like Quality of Software vs. Costs, exposure to more powerful systems etc. before we mention Free Software or FSF. Would you like me to attempt at rephrasing some parts of the letter? Another thing, late last year I did some extensive fact-finding for delivering a Seminar "Introducing Linux" in my office. I have documented the whole thing and you can find it at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir/Linux Perhaps, it could help the volunteers in deciding on the content of their talks. I would also be grateful if people could have a look around and point out anything they find factually incorrect. Thanks --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux for Win2000
by Amish Mehta 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

If you mean 'Linux for Windows 2000'(as in 2nd line) then there is no(will never be) such thing. And if you actually mean 'Linux on Windows 2000' then this might help, http://www.vmware.com. Amish. shahazad(a)linuxplanet.nu wrote: >Can anybody tell me about runnning "Linux on windows 2000". >I have searched all over the net but havent found it for win2000.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux for Win2000
by Amish Mehta 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

If you mean 'Linux for Windows 2000'(as in 2nd line) then there is no(will never be) such thing. And if you actually mean 'Linux on Windows 2000' then this might help, http://www.vmware.com. Amish. shahazad(a)linuxplanet.nu wrote: >Can anybody tell me about runnning "Linux on windows 2000". >I have searched all over the net but havent found it for win2000.

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xwin display
by |= n I y A N T =| 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

hi, i dont seem to be able to start XWindows ... when i "startx" i can hear the intro sound but there's no display ... could it be that the driver selected while installation was the wrong one ... i have a DFI AM33 motherboard with onboard display ... hoping for some quick help ... ny _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Linux for Win2000
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 28 Feb '02

28 Feb '02

Hi all, Can anybody tell me about runnning "Linux on windows 2000". I have searched all over the net but havent found it for win2000. It would be gr8 if anybody would supply me with the download url. Thanx regards </shahazad> -- Get your firstname@lastname email at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Letter to spearhead the movement
by Tahir Hashmi 28 Feb '02

28 Feb '02

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:23:37 Navin Dhanuka wrote: > >It is M$ Win, becuase of which the personal computing >has spread to millions of houses. [and u curse them for mkaing money, and >call ruthless ... ..] >It M$ Win was not there, then I guess computing, Internet etc. >must have been a distant dreams for all of us. >Can't remember which **ix company made any efforts in sprading computing > Personal computing didn't spread as much because of Windows as because of the cheaply available PCs and the easy availablity of compatible hardware components. And that's because PC became an open standard in Hardware. If you still think otherwise, Mac came up with a GUI and mouse much earlier than MS. Mac users still swear by the ease of use that Mac OS offers. Why then aren't we all using Macs? AFA the business model of GPL is considered, well, just concentrate on what Trevor is saying - promotion of Open Software in Schools/Colleges. What are you taught in Schools/Colleges? Basic fundamentals like Algorithms, PLs etc. Do we really need VC++ to teach somebody to program in C++? Of course not. People learn DBMS starting with Oracle / MS SQL. At UG level, they hardly go beyond SQL 92 Statements. That they can as easily do in PostgreSQL too. And please don't base your arguments on the de facto standard that MS Office has become in Office Apps. Office Apps aren't the end of the world. The user ignorance has reached to such levels that people don't even look at Notepad. They'll use MS Word even for 1-pagers they never intend to print. Isn't HTML good enough for on-screen formatting? When it comes to businesses, just tell me how much money does a company make out of selling mass-market apps? As compared to the custom solutions, this percentage is not too much. And no body stops you from building proprietary solutions on top of Free Software. I can deliver my customer a web application built using PostgreSQL/PHP/Apache and retain all Property rights without violating GPL. That's because my application *uses* free software. It's not *comprised* of it. This is a difference many people fail to understand or choose to ignore while arguing against GPLed software. Schools being the foundation builders that they are should definitely use Free Software so that they can provide better Computer Labs and powerful software without blowing through the school budget or tying the students down to some proprietary software they'd be reluctant to move out of. --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Letter to spearhead the movement---coments asap
by Trevor Warren 28 Feb '02

28 Feb '02

> luggers...... > > pliss refer to the letter as attached....... > > > ***************************8 > > > Hiyee Luggers, > > There should be no doubt that the most important > places where free software should be advocated and > propagated are schools and colleges. Instead of > trying > to wean away people at a later stage when > they are used to or worse, addicted to proprietary > software, we must educate people about free software > when their exposure to proprietary software is > minimal > and when they are most amenable to absorbing > progressive ideas and beliefs. > > The long term goal of FSF-I/LUG's should of course > be > to ensure that the school and college syllabi are > free > of all proprietary software and > that students are introduced at an early stage to > the > simple philosophy of free software. This would > require > petitioning the various bodies responsible for > framing > these syllabi and that involves > going through a labyrinth of bureaucratic red tape. > This obviously is not an easy goal to achieve > although > we must make a start on this > front sooner rather than later. > > In the mean time, we can involve ourselves in a more > grass roots approach of contacting individual > schools > and colleges and requesting them to arrange talks on > free software to be given by local volunteers of > FSF-I/LUG's. This approach has no major bureaucratic > hurdles, except > perhaps for the convincing of individual principals > or > head masters, and promises the immediate benefit of > more and more young and > impressionable minds getting exposed to the simple > philosophy of free software. > > > Here's a draft plan: > > Volunteers in each town/city/suburb should compile a > list of schools where they could go and give a talk > on > free software and submit this > list to FSF-I/LUG's. FSF-I/LUG's should then in turn > send request letters to these > schools, including the contact details of the > particular volunteers whom the school should contact > for scheduling the talk. > > A preliminary draft of the request letter follows: > > To, > The Principal > name and address of school > > Dear sir or madam, > > Sub: A request for arranging a talk on Free > Software and conducting a workshop on GNU/Linux in > your institution. > > The Free Software Foundation of India FSF-I and > the LUG ( Linux Users Group ), is a non-profit > organisation formed for the purpose of advocating > and > propagating the use and development of Free Software > in India. Please see the enclosed literature for > an > explanation of and a brief introduction to Free > Software. Please also visit our website at > www.fsf.org.in and http://www.ilug-bom.org.in, for > further information on our activities and goals. > > As part of our efforts to spread awareness > and educate people about Free Software and > Gnu/Linux, > we have started a program of holding talks in > schools and colleges and technical institutions, > with > the aim of exposing youngsters to the simple > philosophy behind Free Software and educating them > aboutthe moral, ethical, and practical advantages of > using and developing Free Software along with a > 2-3 > workshop on basics of GNU/Linux from the perspective > of enhancing the students technical vocabulary. > > We believe that this exposure is important for > all > students who have any interest or connection with > computers and computer software, as it will enable > them to make a more informed choice, based on > virtues > other than mere technical and marketing facts, when > the time comes for them to choose which software to > study, use, buy or develop. > > Sir / madam, we hereby request you to arrange > for > such a talk to be given in your institution by one > or > more local volunteers of our organisation. The names > and contact details of the volunteers with whom you > can discuss the schedule of the talk are as follows: > > 1. volunteer name and contact details > 2. volunteer name and contact details > > We propose addressing this talk to students of > classes SE,TE and BE. However, we leave the actual > composition of the target audience entirely up to > your > discretion and judgment depending on the current > level of exposure of your students to computers and > computer software. > > You may please distribute the enclosed > literature > on Free Software/Linux among the intended audience > as > a preparatory step in advance of the talk. > > Thank you very much for your cooperation and > time. > > Yours sincerely, > Sd. > for > Free Software Foundation of India > & > Linux User Group of Bombay > > > > ************************************* > > This letter has been framed by "Khuzaima A. > Lakdawala", and i owe him due > for every word and idea in here. Just that i have > modified parts to include > the LUG and Linux as part of our overall agenda. > > > ********************** > > > Trevor Warren > ===== ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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(no subject)
by l_i_l_o_i_n 27 Feb '02

27 Feb '02

Does any one know how to configure Qmail for outgoing and Sendmail for Incoming on same server. Thanx in Advance -Shanker l_i_l_o_i_n Li NUX---LoVER---InDIA

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root privelages to another user?
by akshaysalkar 26 Feb '02

26 Feb '02

at times i have seen users say eg. 'ajay' who have root privelages? so how do i assign root privelages to another user? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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looking for mail client
by Manish Jethani 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

I'm looking for a [gui] mail client that (doesn't suck): 1) Allows me to use any smtp server (with authorization) 2) Supports pop3 at least. imap4 is optional 3) Works in ``offline mode''. That is, when I'm offline, it should queue the mails and only attempt to contact the smtp server when I go online (as in outlook). Should not depend on /usr/lib/sendmail in any way. 4) Supports mail filtering and sorting, pref. with the help of procmail. i.e. it should use procmail if I ask it to. 5) Stores mail in mbox format. 6) Supports search through messages by regex. 7) Let's me use Vim as editor for composing mails. I can add more to the list, but this much will do. Pine doesn't have 1 (auth), 2, 3, 4, 6. Mutt, AFAIK, doesn't have 1, 4. Most GUI clients don't have 6 and 7. Outlook doesn't have 5, 6, 7 (and 4, if you don't like the message rules in outlook). I've been living with sendmail+fetchmail+procmail+pine+vim all this while but I want something easier now. I want to get rid of sendmail in that equation. I'd like something like Outlook plus a portable file format, regex searches, procmail-like rules, and the ``Let Me Use VIM'' feature. Suggestions? Manish -- The only difference between a car salesman and a computer salesman is that the car salesman knows he's lying.

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backup mail system
by kishor bhagwat 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

Does anyone have info. on how to have real time/almost realtime mail backup system with linux and sendmail 8.9 the main server and backup server are geographically distant. regards, kishor __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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making a mail+sys admin?
by akshaysalkar 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

how to make a certain user mail+sys admin? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] looking for mail client
by Tahir Hashmi 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

Have a look at Sylpheed <http://sylpheed.good-day.net>. --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:42:16 Manish Jethani wrote: >I'm looking for a [gui] mail client that (doesn't suck): > > 1) Allows me to use any smtp server (with authorization) > 2) Supports pop3 at least. imap4 is optional > 3) Works in ``offline mode''. That is, when I'm offline, it > should queue the mails and only attempt to contact the smtp > server when I go online (as in outlook). Should not depend > on /usr/lib/sendmail in any way. > 4) Supports mail filtering and sorting, pref. with the help of > procmail. i.e. it should use procmail if I ask it to. > 5) Stores mail in mbox format. > 6) Supports search through messages by regex. > 7) Let's me use Vim as editor for composing mails. > >I can add more to the list, but this much will do. Pine doesn't >have 1 (auth), 2, 3, 4, 6. Mutt, AFAIK, doesn't have 1, 4. >Most GUI clients don't have 6 and 7. Outlook doesn't have 5, 6, >7 (and 4, if you don't like the message rules in outlook). > >I've been living with sendmail+fetchmail+procmail+pine+vim all >this while but I want something easier now. I want to get rid >of sendmail in that equation. I'd like something like Outlook >plus a portable file format, regex searches, procmail-like >rules, and the ``Let Me Use VIM'' feature. > >Suggestions? > >Manish > >-- >The only difference between a car salesman and a computer >salesman is that the car salesman knows he's lying. > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >

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ODBC DSN Configuration
by Pankaj Jangid 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

Hi All, I have a java application which uses jdbc-odbc bridge. Now I have two options for deploying that application on a linux machine:- 1. Modify the source to use JDBC driver to connect to MSSQL server. 2. Configure ODBC DSN on linux machine. Which method is better ? I tried configuring ODBC DSN but couldn't succeed. One more doubt. If I modify the source to use JDBC driver (freetds-java) then is it sufficient to modify only Class.forName() statement ? regards -- Pankaj Jangid National Centre for Software Technology Yahoo-msnger : pankaj_jangid GPG Public Key : http://ashoka.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt

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mail+sys. admin rights?
by akshaysalkar 24 Feb '02

24 Feb '02

how to make a certain user a mail and system administrator? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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refreshing cache
by aaaaarrrgghhh 24 Feb '02

24 Feb '02

Scenario : some people are using a cache to view my website. i make changes to the site and i want them to be available immediately. so, does anyone know of a way to push_content_from a web server to a squid cache? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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linux books cool links
by sachin 23 Feb '02

23 Feb '02

Books: http://www.linuxdoc.org/guides.html for secure linux http://www.linuxdoc.org/guides.html#securing_linux with set of sample conf files

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FSB speed
by Ulhas Vaidya 23 Feb '02

23 Feb '02

hi, i run rh 7.1 on a se440bx2 motherboard. how do i find out the fsb speed as used by the kernel? and if i find that the used speed is lower than the system capability can i change it? if yes, how? did a lot of net searching for this but no clue. thanx in advance for any input. ulhas

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<ios.h> counterpart for linux
by kshitijv 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Hi Friends, Thanks for replying to my previous mail. Currntly i am porting a c++ code (written for windows) to Linux. The code uses #include<ios> for using ios_base::left flag. I would like to know which Linux header file will provide me this facility. Regards. -Kshitij. kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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[OT] Remarks by Craig Mundie
by Nikhil Joshi 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

hmmm.... http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/craig/05-03sharedsource.asp _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Movies run slowly on Linux
by Tahir Hashmi 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:00:34 Nikhil Joshi wrote: >I'm not sure but the jazzy icon colors,plethora of small icons on >taskbar,the brilliant color schemes (themes) (especially in GNOME) must be >taking some VRAM right? VRAM is used to store a "snapshot" of your screen, and the size of a snapshot depends only on the resolution and color depth. The reason why GNOME taxes the display H/W is because the themes that use textured backgrounds or mouse-overs etc. require more processing but not necessarily more VRAM. Icons, panel etc. don't use up any more VRAM (they use system RAM and CPU, though). You can make GNOME run easy on the display by using plain Jane themes and lightweight WM's like TWM. Still, it's not going to affect system RAM requirements (so it's not light). It is not going to do much for movies either, because you still can't do anything about the H/W acceleration that you're missing. >I always thought that drivers made for a specific hardware were much better >than those made for a generic ones. Usually, but you can't generalize this as some specific models are different only in that they improve the internal logic w/o changing the interface, or add new features keeping the old ones in place. > >Mine: >Cyrix MII 300 (~233 MHz Pentium) >64 MB SDRAM >2MB Sis 6215 >800X600 8bit colors Ouch! that hurts :-& As an aside, today's CPU's are fast enough to play MPEGs at, say, 640x480x16, even without hardware acceleration. --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Custom Engineering Distro
by sachin 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

On Friday 22 February 2002 03:31 pm, you wrote: > plz let me know how can i be a member of u > sachin

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Custom Engineering Distro
by Nagarjuna G. 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Animesh from Goa is interested in getting more feedback and suggestions on the customized engineering distro project. Remember! Sameer! if you also share your notes we can quickly arrive at some plan and start the work. Nagarjuna ----- Forwarded message from "Animesh N.Nerurkar" <banduji(a)goatelecom.com> ----- > The following link points to the thread that ran on the ilug-bom > list. I and Sameer (iitb) took some notes. I couldn't get the > notes at the moment. The project is very important and should be > taken up. I need at least one person who could commit to this > task. If any one one from goa could do it, that will be great. <http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/oldarchives/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20010219/thread.…> i had a look at the abov link, dnlded some more related mail (similar subject lines :) from same location. did not find any concept notes :( cud u help me out here plz? have compiled a list of some pkgs --mostly from the LIG-BOM archives + some of my own. plz add more. i have attempted to categorise them tho these categories may need to be revamped/overhauled as i'm from auto. bakground and not very well versed with other branches of engg or their needs. ================================= # OS (deb) OS docs kernel docs stds. docs tutorials # H/w drivers dev/Programming: gcc as prolog emacs KDevelop # RAD Tools: VisualTcl # Application dev/Programming: Python Tcl/Tk gcc as Prolog emacs # ANN/AI Tools: Prolog # Electronics Engg: Spice (analog circuit simulation) Varkon (CAD) BruseY20 (VHDL generator) VGUI (Block diagram to VHDL) SAVANT (VHDL Simulator) Alliance (Complete set of VLSI tools) something for: CAM/gerber post processing FPGA design package VLSI design package # RDBMS + Frontends + admin tools: PostGreSQL MySQL PgAccess Tcl/Tk Perl5 PHP PHP MyAdmin (Administrative interface for MySQL and Postgres in PHP) PHPPgAdmin (Administrative interface for MySQL and Postgres in PHP) # Chem engg: molecular manipulation software # Mech/Auto engg : Varkon (CAD) CAM FEA package 3D rendering Tool # Comp. Engg: expat (an xml parser) jboss (an EJB container) mico (CORBA implementation) BONOBO ACE + TAO ethereal ( network protocol analyser great for learning abt network protocols) nmap (arguably the best port scanner around) nessus (great for demonstrating basic security issues) Beowulf (PVM/MPI) # Web: Apache PHP Perl5 Webmin CGI Scripting # Civil Engg: Varkon (CAD) Grass5 (GIS) some vehicular traffic analysis/simulation tools # for all: GnuCash Gnumeric Abiword majicpoint multimedia tools as presentations/teaching aids # Publishing sgml tools jade stylesheets docbook tex/latex yacc flex bison # General simulators for all abov tutorials for all abov Documentation for all abov ========================== conclusion: most of existing deb pkgs wud have to be included. some additional pkgs wud need to be added. end result will be a deb pkg that wud be larger than the orig. distro :) deb 2.2r5 is 3 CDs. add another CD for additional pkgs, tutorials and docs (english) --i can list specific docs if u wish :) -- warm rgds. animesh ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/gn/ Key fingerprint = C1E2 1B8C 8E98 A697 68B7 ADAC E956 6D4B DE90 BF01

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Movies run slowly on Linux
by Tahir Hashmi 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:23:17 Nikhil Joshi wrote: > >6215 is still not (auto) detected. Also gui's like GNOME and KDE (I guess >you are using one of them ) aren't the lightest of desktops around. > How does that affect movie players? GNOME/KDE not light as in they require more system RAM. That shouldn't have much to do with VRAM. SiS cards, even if detected (like 6326), are driven by the SVGA X Server, instead of the Accelerated X Server. That's what causes the performance lag. Also, w/o hardware acceleration for video, the CPU speed also comes into picture along with the system load. >I have the same card and making X window run in 16 bit is a huge achievement >. Playing movies.... >are you sure you want to do this ? ;-) Why not? My Athlon 600 MHz w/ a 4MB SiS 6326 plays movies fine as long as they're under 640x480 pixels. I run GNOME @ 1024x768x16 resolution. OK, the next one may be hard to digest but it's true - I could even play Quake II thru wine @ 640x480x16 without getting the jerks! > >My opinion >Movies: Best watched in theatres or on Xing Player ;-) > Echoed, sans the Xing (or your fav. player here) Player. --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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<ios.h> counterpart for linux
by kshitijv 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Hi Friends, Thanks for replying to my previous mail. Currntly i am porting a c++ code (written for windows) to Linux. The code uses #include<ios> for using ios_base::left flag. I would like to know which Linux header file will provide me this facility. Regards. -Kshitij. kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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Movies run slowly on Linux
by Abhir Joshi 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Hi Movies don't run as fast in Linux as in Windows on my PC. What might be the reason? Isn't the client and X server using shared memory for communication? If they are not, how to enable it? Abhir _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1
by shailesh bhate 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

funky wrote: >Press control X to enter into text mode. Well, sending the same mail thrice doesn't exactly sound "funky"! Shailesh. "Uniqueness is a commodity in oversupply." -- Matt Ridley, "Genome"

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(no subject)
by kiran nadgir 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Hi all, this is mayb my second post to the list...but i am sure this one's worth all the wait for a post from me :) Chek out these links.. http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/index.html#blind-install http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/advocating-linux.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/programming-truths.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/linux-anecdotes.html..v v cool http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/longest-living-bug.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/why-hack-mode-is-better-than-sex.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/vacation.html Read these n do post in ur feedback regards, kiran nadgir ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com

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Creative Vibra128 sound drivers
by wilson varghese 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Do we have creative vibra 128 sound drivers for linux. ? or anything compatible for it? Please guide me. thanks, regards, wilson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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(no subject)
by kiran nadgir 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

Hi all, this is mayb my second post to the list...but i am sure this one's worth all the wait for a post from me :) Chek out these links.. http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/index.html#blind-install http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/advocating-linux.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/programming-truths.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/linux-anecdotes.html..v v cool http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/longest-living-bug.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/why-hack-mode-is-better-than-sex.html http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/vacation.html Read these n do post in ur feedback regards, kiran nadgir ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com

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imap servers
by Hiten Desai 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

I would like to know major differences in uwimap server and cyrus imap server and courier imap server which one should be prefered and wht option every one of this has if anybody having a link for this details forward me Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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Hardware raid problem
by malik bm 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

Hi to all linuxers: I had a problem with hardware raid. I have server system that configurations is: motherboard(l440gx) comes with onboard scsi controller and builtin intel ethernet card(eepro100). using this i configured as a mail server on redhat Linux 7.0. Now i would like to implement Hardware raid using s2100 raid controller on the same configuration .with redhat 7.2. So what steps i have to follow. Anybody can . Thank you with regards, B.Malik ________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a job? Visit Yahoo! India Careers Visit http://in.careers.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Creative Vibra128 sound drivers
by Tahir Hashmi 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Yes, we do. In fact, This card has been supported since Red Hat 6.0 (that's the version I started out with). sndconfig is easily able to auto-detect the card but it reports the card by it's processor's name (Ensonic something) instead of the brand name. On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:05:56 wilson varghese wrote: >Do we have creative vibra 128 sound drivers for linux. >? or anything compatible for it? >Please guide me. > >thanks, >regards, >wilson > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games >http://sports.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed Check out Cupid School where you will learn from Matchmaker's best and brightest. Good Luck! http://ecard.matchmaker.com/cupid0202/cupid0202.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1
by Nikhil Karkera 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

> press cntl+x Is there some prize for saying these magic words? Regards, Nikhil.

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1
by funky 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Press control X to enter into text mode. Message: 2Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:39:55 +0530 From: "kshitijv" <kshitijv(a)forindia.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.inHi all, how can give options to LILO at boot time? In earlier versions, with the text version of LILO, it was very easy. But in 7.1 how can I eneter boot parameters from the graphical boot screen?Please help me!kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1
by funky 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Press control X to enter into text mode. Message: 2Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:39:55 +0530 From: "kshitijv" <kshitijv(a)forindia.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.inHi all, how can give options to LILO at boot time? In earlier versions, with the text version of LILO, it was very easy. But in 7.1 how can I eneter boot parameters from the graphical boot screen?Please help me!kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1
by funky 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Press control X to enter into text mode. Message: 2Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:39:55 +0530 From: "kshitijv" <kshitijv(a)forindia.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Boot time option for RedHat Linux 7.1 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.inHi all, how can give options to LILO at boot time? In earlier versions, with the text version of LILO, it was very easy. But in 7.1 how can I eneter boot parameters from the graphical boot screen?Please help me!kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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FTP script
by sachin 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

can any body suggest me ascript that automatically connects the server and upload or download wating 4 u r reply sachin

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driver
by |= n I y A N T =| 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

hi luggers, i was looking for a driver for my display card - its on-board (DFI AM33 MBoard). any idea where i should start my search for this. the dfi site offers drivers only for Windows. reg, ny

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Raid problem
by malik bm 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Hi all! This is Mallikarjun from Bangalore.In one of my company i have to implement Hardware raid. First we configured mail server using follwing configuration: pentium II with L440gx motherboard which is having onboard SCSI controller .Here i don't find any problems.(operating system is redhat7.0) Now my company is recommending to go for Hardware raid and they purchased Hardware raid controller i.e also SCSI adaptec.Also i want to update to redhat 7.1 or 7.2.I need all of your's help.Here following are my questions: 1. How to disable inbuilt scsi controller because iam using seperate raid card.Is it necessary. 2. I want build raid level 1 i.e mirroring with 2 ibm scsi harddisks.Incase if iget any problems while implementing raid how should i trouble shoot myself or to whom should i contact. Can you reply the answers to followed questions as early as possible. ________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a job? Visit Yahoo! India Careers Visit http://in.careers.yahoo.com

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