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[OT][crosspost]India's First Freedom Toaster Released
by Anoop John 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

Dear All, GNU/Linux users group, Trivandrum (www.ilug-tvm.org) and Zyxware Technologies are conducting a 5 day install fest at Technopark,Trivandrum, primarily targeting the IT professionals working at Technopark.This 5 day mega install fest is being conducted at Park Center, Technopark, Trivandrum from September 1-5. With this event we at GNU/Linux users group, Trivandrum, hope to carry the message of Free Software aggressively to one of the largest IT parks in the country. We have also released India's first Freedom Toaster during the inauguration of this Install fest. This Freedomtoaster was designed and developed by Zyxware Technologies and is being jointly promoted with GNU/Linux Users Group Trivandrum. You can read more about it and check out available resources and photos at www.freedomtoaster.in. The whole concept was based on the original Freedomtoaster developed by the Shuttleworth Foundation. A Freedom Toaster is basically a self contained kiosk that will burn any one of the free software distributions onto user supplied optical media. The freedom toaster serves as an easy way to distribute free software(mainly GNU/Linux distributions). Such a dispensing mechanism is highly relevant in a country like India where unlimited broadband internet is not exactly cheap, whereas the chief source of free software remains the internet. The freedom toaster intends to bridge that gap and thus make free and open source software easily accessible to the public, minimal human intervention being an added advantage. Along with the install fest we are also conducting a technical seminar series on various Free Software topics. Also visitors will have the opportunity to try out different GNU/Linux distributions and also many software including popular Free Software games. There will also be opportunities for visitors to get their questions regarding free software applications answered by experts. Kerala State IT Mission, SPACE Kerala and FSF India are the other partner organizations who are behind this and BSNL is sponsoring the event. Together, we have been successful in organizing similar events in the city this year. We hope that, the event and our freedom toaster initiative will get support from all like minded people all over the country and hopefully this will become an inspiration for other people to take the initiative and further strengthen the free software movement in our country. You can read more about the install fest at www.ilug-tvm.org. We also welcome you to join our mailing list - ilug-tvm(a)googlegroups.com - and help us out with the increasing support requests Cheers Anoop -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.anoopjohn.com http://www.thondomraughts.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Making DVDs videos from youtube.com is that possible using KUBUNTU LINUX tools. Is it legal. Use of Kubuntu LINUX to watch "naughty" sites.
by Erach 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

Hi, I noticed that nobody is interested in a secure operating system like Kubuntu LINUX (CD-ROM available in 10 weeks by shipping). But with dual-boot Kubuntu LINUX can one watch any videos and any image sites without getting spyware and viruses and ad-ware -------------- that is very serious --------- some idiots might want to turn off google preferences from advanced to "watch everything" and then type in "naked mary" or some thing. On youtube.com can you make DVDs off videos off youtube.com I mean MTNL is free download at night and some idiot might make a huge DVD off videos of youtube.com Those would show all over the world. Of course, uploads by MTNL are free so nice, decent photos and videos can be posted for free. BUT is all this possible using KUBUNTU LINUX or any other linux. Erach

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foss workshop for hardware vendors
by Kenneth Gonsalves 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

hi, why do hardware vendors recommend customers to go for windows rather than linux? Most common reason is that they know nothing about linux, or are not confident of supporting linux. No one wants to admit lack of knowledge - so they recommend against it. Not evil minds - just ignorance. Check it out here: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/full/56/NW/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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windows dlls v/s wine --- would need all older versions of WINE too to run under virtualboxes running LINUX
by Erach 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

From: "Mehul Ved" <mehul.n.ved(a)gmail.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:22:59 +0530 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Installing Windows applications via virtualbox or WINE On 8/27/08, Erach <erach27(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It seems my Visual Basic, Visual Windows C++ and Microsoft Windows 98 > edition are finally obsoleted if I try to use Wine but not if I use > virtual box. Yes, cos the dll's available in wine are newer. Wouldn't it be the same in case of using later versions of windows? No, virtualbox emulates the Intel hardware and you select the version of the hardware and the guest and host operating system. Then you install your copy of Windows and then run visual c++ and visual basic on it. Do do the same in linux, one would have to run different instances of virtual box on linux, below the virtual box, run different (older) versions of WINE and then the visual C++ and visual basic would run legally under the different versions of WINE. By the way, I did run Microsoft Office under WINE, and TALLY under WINE but the next day they did not run. I wish somebody would come up with an open source / free ERP version / or at least a TALLY. Erach

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Request for the venue for Sep 2008 ILUG-BOM Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

H! Folks, We would like to conduct ILUG-BOM meeting in IITB/KReSIT. Are there in IITian lurkers on the list who can book the venue for Sep meet? Alternately, we would like people from central suburbs (Dadar to Thane) to come forward and offer venue for the next ILUG-BOM meet. The date for next meeting will be either 21st or 28th Sep. 2008. We have following topics and speakers confirmed for Sep. 2008 Meet. 1. Programing with QT by Prashant Shah (Thanks Prashant for coming forward to share knowledge) 2. Advance JavaScript Programing by Rakesh Pai (Thanks for your last and very good session and looking forward to the next one!) 3. Action Plan for Opposing Software Patent (Nagarjuna will brief the community about the topic and status, if he is around in Mumbai) With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 George Burns - "I would go out with women my age, but there are no women my age."

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[OT] Mini Laptop Makers Hoodwink Potential Buyers.
by Rony 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

Hello, I am looking for a good mini laptop with the new Atom processor but find the manufacturers using gimmicks to promote their products. First they announce a product launch by a certain date in order to apply the brakes on the rival products and still there is no mention in the news about the launch. Even during the initial unveiling of the product, they mention very low prices like 300 to 400 USD as the likely price and after the product is launched it is much above 600 USD. For the Indian buyer it is a whopping 10K above the previous rate. Even the iphone 3G is sold at a much lower rate in the US and in India which is price sensitive it is priced too high, almost double. Are people in developing countries richer than those in developed ones? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Installing Windows applications via virtualbox or WINE
by Erach 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

I have a comment on virtualization v/s WINE. WINE does not run my old Visual C++ or Visual Basic Compiler which runs on the Windows 98 because it says "sorry the new DLL's of Internet explorer 6.0 or 7.0 are here and conflict with the internet explorer 3.0 dll's of visual basic). So I prefer virtualization. That time, less memory was needed --- so it is easy to run multiple Operating System's on one machine. Of course, one should upgrade to keep enhancing the software ---- but I only want to learn my Visual Basic again. It seems my Visual Basic, Visual Windows C++ and Microsoft Windows 98 edition are finally obsoleted if I try to use Wine but not if I use virtual box. Erach

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Software patents Wiki archive link.
by vivek v 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

This might a bit ahead of the posting of the minutes. Yesterday there was this discussion about bringing together all the issues of Software patents as a whole and find answers. As this effort was initially started in lug Delhi couple of years ago . http://web.archive.org/web/20070311000422/http://www.lug-delhi.org/wiki/Sof… Original stub, http://kandalaya.org/Docs/patent-faq.html Thanks to Raj Mathur(ILUGD, founder )

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Kindly provide me with xubuntu linux
by Ashish Tripathi 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

Hello friends. Kindly provide me with a Xubuntu linux cd. I stay bhayander,mumbai. Kindly help

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I stay at bhayander. Mumbai.
by Ashish Tripathi 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

I stay at Bhayander, mumbai. Can you help me. My no. Is 9870891889. I can collect it personally or by post will do.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Smart kiosks as an extention to manned counters.
by Rony 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Abhay Jaykar wrote: > This is all already thought of at > > www.intellvisions.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rony > > I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. > as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned > counters. For example bill payments for MTNL, BEST. The Post Office is > another department that would benefit very much from this. Multiple PO > kiosks inside the PO could offer services like stamps, money-order as > well as registered letters. Just like the current manned counters, you > simply enter the sender and destination address and 2 identical sticker > labels with bar codes will pop out. One is to be pasted on the letter > and the other is the sender's copy. A smart plate on top of the machine > can be the weighing scale for determining the postage as per the weight > of the letter/parcel. The letter/parcel is then dropped inside a > designated box. An extra feature would be to optically scan the movement > of the letter inward as proof of dropping. This kiosk can also be placed > in banks and enterprising shops who can be given....say 5% of all > earnings through that kiosk. so now the Post Office is not far away but > right near your home and the Postal Dept. does not have to invest in > land or office manpower to extend its reach. The same technology can be > used by courier companies too. MTNL's telephone exchanges too can use > these kiosks for bill payments and adding/removing extra services to > their subscription like changing plans, enabling CLIP. The kiosks can be > linked with wireless networking so that it is immune to cable problems. > So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take > advantage of this technology. > > Various kiosks already exist. This idea was to have an extended office counter for Govt. offices and extending their reach and services to new territories without major investments in premises and office staff. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Provide me with the cd of either Xubuntu-Linux or Puppy Linx.
by Ashish Tripathi 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

hello friends, This is C.A. Aashish tripathi, im in a desperate need of a Linux OS for my pc, whose configuration are as follows: 1. 256 MB RAM 2. PIII Intel Processor 3. 700 Mhz Processor 4. 40GB of HDD. I am looking out for Xubuntu/Puppy Linux but since my internet is very slow I cannot afford to dowbnload it. kindly help me & provide with a CD of it as soon as possible. regards, C.A Aashish Tripathi a.k.a NEEL

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Request to post minutes of the Aug 2008 ILUG Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Dear Mehul, Please post the minutes of yesterdays meeting. You have taken quite good notes! TIA for your efforts. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Emo Philips - "I was sleeping the other night, alone, thanks to the exterminator."

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Minutes of August 2008 GLUG Meet
by Mehul Ved 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Date: Sunday, 24 August 2008 Time: 1400 hrs to 1700 hrs Venue: HBCSE, Mankhurd Attendance: The meeting was attended by 22 members from the community Talks: * Rakesh Pai - JavaScript Mr. Rakesh Pai started off the August GLUG meet with an introduction to JavaScript, beginning with the history of JavaScript, how the name JavaScript came about and where it is headed in the future. Then he explained the features of JavaScript, how loosely typed nature of JavaScript enhances creativity, object oriented nature of JavaScript, the available data types, math library. The topic then got more indepth with practical demonstration and discussions covering the datatypes, operators, loops, functions, keywords, deep object structures. The session ended with a small overview of Aptana IDE and Firebug for debugging. * Mr. Sanjay B. - jQuery After getting familiar with the basics of JavaScript, it was time to move on a little higher. Sanjay then intoduced us to a fascinating JavaScript library called jQuery. We started off with names of some popular JavaScript libraries like dojo, prototype, jquery. Then Sanjay put up a demo on jQuery to explain the concepts. Various of useful and fun stuff like getters, setters, event handlers, JSON objects with animate, handling AJAX were covered with examples. Then he covered on the overhead of using jQuery library in your page, cross browser compatibility, documentation, working with CSS. The talk ended with a small discussion on processing.js by John Resig. * Discussion on software patents This section got deferred due to unavailability of Dr. Nagarjuna at this point of the meet. So, Mr. Dinesh Shah took the initiative of discussing what software patents are and why should we care for them. It surely introduced some new attendees in the meet to the real side of software programming, where patents play an important role. Anurag and Vivek Iyyer joined in to explain more on the same. Some of the highlighted points were o hardware-software patent combinations o software only patents are not allowed o effect on mobile industry and opencourseware o can similar software be written on different hardware if hardware-software combination has been patented? o question and answers covered a few years back on ILUG-D wiki on the topic o how LUG as a community can help organisations like FSF challenge the patents eg. documenting the process o publishing of patent information as image PDF's Fixing Namazu: After the talks were done with Anurag and Dinesh Shah started the process of fixing up namazu. Apparently generating index is a long process, so it had to be left unfinished at that point.

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[INFO] Finally Linux catches up in India !
by Chetan S 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Check out this article on popularity of Linux across the Globe ... http://royal.pingdom.com/?p=340 Surprisingly as per their methodology India comes out on the top !!! regards, C

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KDE 4.1 for debian lenny
by Joju Joshua 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

Hi, lenny backport of KDE 4.1 though not official, it is prepared by the same folks who package kde for debian http://kde4.debian.net/ cheers -- Joju Joshua Zyxware Technologies Trivandrum www.zyxware.com Ph: +91-471-243-7711 Mob: +91-989-587-7134 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------< "Be the change you wish to see in the world" M K Gandhi >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<

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MCA Correspondence Courses
by Jay Mistry 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

I have a background in Medicine; but being interested in computers, esp. use in biostatistics & data analysis; would like to do an MCA correspondence course; to learn such concepts as Basics of computers (hardware)/Operating Systems (UNIX), Programming Basics (eg 'C language), Databases/SQL, etc. Any suggestions for a good course (*correspondence)*? I was thinking of IGNOU & Sikkim Mainpal Univeristy. Have installed the recent openSUSE 11.0 Linux distribution (till now was using only MS-Windows XP & related applications), & learning about Linux basics (that may serve as an intro to Unix OS also.) Thanks,

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Reminder: ILUG-BOM August 2008 Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

H! All, Here are the details of the upcoming ILUG-BOM meet. Date: Sunday, 24th August 2008 Time: 2:00 - 5:00 PM (IST) Venue: HBCSE, Near BARC Bus Depot, Mankhurd, Mumbai Agenda: 1. Progamming JavaScript 2. JavaScript Framework(s) 3. Fixing ILUG-BOM Mailing List Archive Search (Namazu) 4. Strategy and action plan for countering software patents. Looking forward to large attendance. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Mike Ditka - "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."

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chech_snmp ..... how to determine OID
by Agnello George 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

Hi I have installed nagios on one of my server and now i am tring to understand how to query my client machine using OIDs. But i just not understaing is one thing is how does one determine a a OID. I am following a tutorial by http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/linuxoids.htm . But what i don't seem to understand is how do they determin a OID. Can some on help me with the concept of OIDs and how do i come up with my own OID i followed the above tutorial and tried to query my clinet server to get the path where the disk is mounted but was not successful here .. [root@vps libexec]# ./check_snmp -H 121.XXX.XX.11 -C public -o 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.9.1.2.1 SNMP problem - No data received from host CMD: /usr/bin/snmpget -t 1 -r 5 -m '' -v 1 [authpriv] 121.XX.XX.XX:161 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.9.1.2.1 can some one help me here Thanks a million !! -- Regards Agnello D'souza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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[X-POST] [SECURITY] Hold all Fedora updates
by Raj Mathur 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

If you're running Fedora please hold off updating your system until the Fedora Project issues a new package signing key: http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/1130 Original announcement: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00012.h… -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves

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Bangaloreans Say No to Software Patents
by Anivar Aravind 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Bangaloreans Say No to Software Patents http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents/PressRelease On 23rd August, 2008, a group of Bangaloreans is to gather outside Town Hall to protest software Patents under the aegis of Free Software Users Group, Bangalore at 5.30 PM. This protest comes in the wake of attempts by the Indian Patent Office to push software patents, despite the same having been rejected categorically by the Parliament of India in March, 2005. At that time a particular lobby had tried pushing Patents for Software through a Presidential Ordinance. This having fallen through, software patents are now being pushed through the back door in the form of a manual ostensibly to help people file patents. While the draft in circulation glosses over the fact that software is not patentable in law, it instructs people that software patents can be filed in combination with hardware. The manual is trying to permit something that is explicitly forbidden by the Indian Patent Act, 2005. Further, it is amusing the way the manual tries to get around the legal obstacle posed by the Patents Act, by positing a category of "software in combination with hardware" . It leads one to wonder whether software can exist independent of hardware In this regard, former Supreme Court Judge, Justice V. R. Krishna Iyer has commented that "neither the controller nor the central government has authority or sanction of law to publish a manual of the kind put on the website". The Free Software Users Group also would like to point out that software is a form of knowledge and software patents would amount to propertisation of knowledge and would be detrimental to the pace at which software is growing. Software patents further kill innovation and competition and turn software publishing into the privilege of a few. As software today pervades all walks of life, any dent in the pace of its growth would have a cascading effect on the economy in general. The Free Software Users Group also would like to point out to the lobby that is trying to push for software patents through the back door that; * Software is already protected under copyright law, and no additional protection either to individuals or industries is required * Hardware innovations are already patentable under the regular innovations; therefore all innovators are already covered * The current ICT revolution happened with science and technology under public domain and it is important for the growth of software that this remains so. For Free Software users Group Bangalore 1. Anivar Aravind +92 9449009908 /080 23435606 2. Praveen A +91 9986348565 3. Renuka Prasad +91 9901945674 4. Vikram vincent +91 9448810822 PDF Version: http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Bangaloreans_Say_No_to_Software_Patents.pdf Event Posters http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents#Candle_Light_Vigil Digg it http://digg.com/tech_news/Bangaloreans_Say_No_to_Software_Patents Vote for it : http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Bangaloreans_Say_No_to_Software_Patents -- Anivar

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Windows/LINUX development times. Now replying to JDT's response --- firefox v/s windows for WIFI security
by Erach 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Hi, I was busy. Happy Parsi New Year. JTD replied whose reply I intepret as follows that Windows (am I correct ---- does not have a secure kernel like UNIX)---- then how is Windows security done. Now, for all over Mumbai/INDIA, WIFI can we say that we have to have a secure kernel ---- for banks can one advocate a "develop new applications / enhancements over LINUX development tool with Windows running on top of LINUX using the emulator VIRTUALBOX which is open source). Now the key issue is that has anyone taken a software project of say one year and shown it is cheaper to develop using Windows v/s LINUX for the "easy to use touted set of Windows tool v/s which tool set to use of LINUX". Not over the entire life-cycle, but just over six months time to go live. What if we take a fresh graduate of say visual basic/ASP from a windows school and put him thru linux programming ------ how will the development cycle be cheaper/prototyping cycle be cheaper. Erach

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OSM sprint
by Kenneth Gonsalves 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/OsmSprint add details here -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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[OT] small cabinet for miniITX boards.
by Arun Khan 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

I am looking for a cabinet similar to the PC thin clients (the size of a thick oversized book). On Lam. Rd., the smallest cabinet I have found is the iBall Baby 306 or 207. Please share the source if you know of any place that stocks the PC thin client cabinets. TIA -- Arun Khan

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Fwd: Warning: maharya@usindia.com - User unknown!
by Kenneth Gonsalves 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

how many of you are getting this message? Begin forwarded message: > From: "MDaemon at usindia.com" <MDaemon(a)usindia.com> > Date: 21 August 2008 1:15:24 AM GMT+05:30 > To: lawgon(a)au-kbc.org > Subject: Warning: maharya(a)usindia.com - User unknown! > Reply-To: MDaemon(a)usindia.com > > maharya(a)usindia.com - no such user here. > > There is no user by that name at this server. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 30
by Joju Joshua 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Hey, Did you all know that you can order various kinds of FLOSS and most flavors of GNU/Linux and have them delivered at your door step at a very very nominal cost? check this page: http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd -- Joju Joshua

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Fwd: Warning: maharya@usindia.com - User unknown!
by Kenneth Gonsalves 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

this is the full headers Begin forwarded message: > From: "MDaemon at usindia.com" <MDaemon(a)usindia.com> > Date: 21 August 2008 10:46:18 AM GMT+05:30 > To: lawgon(a)au-kbc.org > Subject: Warning: maharya(a)usindia.com - User unknown! > Reply-To: MDaemon(a)usindia.com > Return-Path: <linuxers-bounces(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Envelope-To: lawgon(a)au-kbc.org > Delivery-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:16:34 -0700 > Received: from [122.169.107.93] (helo=usindia.com) by > shire.symonds.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <linuxers- > bounces(a)mm.glug-bom.org>) id 1KW2XB-0002mO-O8 for lawgon@au- > kbc.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:16:34 -0700 > Received: from usindia.com by usindia.com (via RAW) (MDaemon PRO > v9.6.6) for <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:46:18 +0530 > X-Mdaemon-Deliver-To: lawgon(a)au-kbc.org > Message-Id: <MDAEMON0008200808211046.AA4618921(a)usindia.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Actual-From: MDaemon(a)usindia.com > X-Return-Path: <linuxers-bounces(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0821-1046-18-PART-BREAK" > X-Mdav-Processed: usindia.com, Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:46:19 +0530 > > maharya(a)usindia.com - no such user here. > > There is no user by that name at this server. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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Fwd: Warning: maharya@usindia.com - User unknown!
by Kenneth Gonsalves 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

how many of you are getting this message? Begin forwarded message: > From: "MDaemon at usindia.com" <MDaemon(a)usindia.com> > Date: 21 August 2008 1:15:24 AM GMT+05:30 > To: lawgon(a)au-kbc.org > Subject: Warning: maharya(a)usindia.com - User unknown! > Reply-To: MDaemon(a)usindia.com > > maharya(a)usindia.com - no such user here. > > There is no user by that name at this server. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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Red Hat Partners in Mumbai
by Amit Joshi 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi, I have completed my engineering and seriously looking at System Administration as a career option. Can you tell me about the career prospects? Also, I am thinking about taking the RHCE exam. I am not able to spot much training institutes in Mumbai, CMS Computer Institute and Gates Training being the only ones I have been able to come up with. Can you please comment on the teaching quality of these computer institutes and such stuff? Looking forward to your replies. Regards, Amit.

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Bengalureans to come out with candles against monopolising knowledge
by Praveen A 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Free Software User Group Bangalore is organising candle light vigil to say no to software patents on 23rd Saturday. More details here http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents#Candle_Light_Vigil Invite your facebook friends at http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=27662916862 Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[Commercial][Jobs] Experienced System Administrator for Zoomin.com
by PV Sundarram 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Zoomin.com <http://www.zoomin.com> is looking for a highly qualified Systems Administrator to help administer our engineering infrastructure. Perfect Fit: - You have top notch hacking skills, including Unix/Linux/Windows/SQL administration experience. - You have administered a high-growth website handling millions of users. - You are obsessed about good security and reliability practices, and you have built systems with no single point of failure. - You can program well enough to write maintenance applications (for example, automate code release in all the servers). - You have the ability to stay levelheaded and organized even in the most chaotic of situations. - You have attention to detail, curiosity and constant need to learn new things. Zoomin.com is a venture backed startup operating at startup execution speed, you can read more about us at http://www.zoomin.com/htdocs/AboutUs.aspx. Benefits: - competitive salary - incentive stock options - healthcare and fitness benefits - generous vacation time - very best computing equipment - excellent view from office You'll work with a small team of very smart people who'll talk about the latest tech stuff and take pride in what they do. If this sounds interesting to you, send a resume and cover letter telling us some real information about you and what you find interesting to jobs(a)zoomin.com. You'll be joining at a time when everyone's able to make a real difference. P.S. For a limited time only, if we hire someone you recommend you can earn a $500 referral bonus. Simply have the person you are referring include your name and email address in their cover letter when they apply. Please remember to only have the person applying contact us directly. The bonus will be paid out after 2 months of their start date. For more details visit http://www.zoomin.com/htdocs/Careers.aspx?from=fb. -- keep klickin' Sundarram P.V. -- http://blog.pvsundarram.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Red Hat Partners in Mumbai
by Neelesh Gurjar 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

From: "Amit Joshi" mckagan(a)gmail.com > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Red Hat Partners in Mumbai >prospects? Also, I am thinking about taking the RHCE exam. I am not able to >spot much training institutes in Mumbai, CMS Computer Institute and Gates >Training being the only ones I have been able to come up with. Can you >please comment on the teaching quality of these computer institutes and such >stuff?-- I know onw Guy who teaches linux very well and in depth. His name is Mr. Rajeev Banerji. He lives in Vashi. He explains Basics of Linux in very nice way. However currently he is taking rest because of got Heart Attack. He will recover in next 2 months. So if you can wait, you can wait for 2 months but again I am not sure he will conduct class again.. Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Red Hat Partners in Mumbai
by yogesh kunjir 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

The problem is finding the "good" institute and the "proper" faculty combo. I have gone through products of practically all the name brand insti's in Mumbai conducting RHCE. i am also willing to join a RHCE course i see on redhat.com and i found a red hat official partner as vibrant technologies at Anheri (west) the study material provide by red hat it self > institute where I did the course, the 3 months course got dragged to > 9 months. We were migrating from one room to another and almost every they say that a full time course will take only 1 and half month to complete the whole RHCE from basic concept and week-end batch (a day in week) will take 3 month May I ask how much did this place charge per student? they charge 15,000 for RHCE per student any suggestion for me -- sincerely, yogesh Saddest quote of funniest man "I like to walk in rain because no one can see my tear"

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Need help for getting system board
by Neelesh Gurjar 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

Hi All, I have downloaded Voyage Linux and have customized it as per the requirements of Firewall n Router for my home. Do anybody have idea regarding where can I get following kinds of boards ? http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2c3.htm I will copy linux into SD compact flash card and then I can use that card with this board. -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Red Hat Partners in Mumbai
by Raghu Prasad 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

Hi! Amit, > I have completed my engineering and seriously looking at System > Administration as a career option. Can you tell me about the career > prospects? Its nice to know that we still have engineering graduates among us who think system administration is a challenging field. When I suggest this field to freshers, they usually can't believe that I am sane enough for their further attention. For most of the freshers, learning Java and DotNet are the ultimate goals in computing career. True system administrators will be in demand as long as companies keep using computer systems. It would be interesting to know what the term _True_ means here. System administration, in general, requires following skills: 1. Understanding how hardware works. You don't have to be a wizard in digital electronics. But you need to be familiar with terms like SATA, PATA, Routers, Modems, USB1, USB2 etc. Basic understanding of functionalities of various components in a computer system is a must. 2. Knowing how to program. If one opts for system administration to remain in the IT field, even if he/she lacks programming skills; then it is a bad choice. You can't administrator multiple systems in a smooth way without doing some sort of automation. The tasks like getting a failure notice via SMS, automatic backup of data at odd hours of nights, detection of some intrusion etc. do require programming. Though various tools are already available to carry out these tasks, one can't create a tool generic enough to solve all the problems possible in a setup. So the skills of _glue programming_ is necessary. On Unix/GNU-Linux you need to learn bash, perl or Python etc. For Windows administration, you need to know VB script, perl/Python or power shell for scripting purpose. 3. Knowing various software components used in the system. As a system administrator, one needs to know how to set up various services required in a company. It is necessary to understand how various services are provided. One needs to know how mail sytem works, how DNS and DHCP functions etc. Ability to set up mail servers, file and print servers, Active Directory/LDAP, document repository etc. is a must for a sysadmin. Sometimes one needs to set up additional tools for project management, time tracking, knowledge base management, wikis etc. As a system administrator, one needs to know how to set up and configure these tools. Also required is the skills to fix problems as and when they are detected. Without a proper understanding of underlying components, it would be easy to feel helpless when your users ask you to solve their problems. 4. Knowing how to manage stress. System administration is a stressful job if you are providing service to large number of users. One needs to know when to say _no_ and how to say it. Managing people and their needs is one of the most important part of system administration. The idea is to provide smooth services even when the system and the admin both are under stress. Usually point 1 can be taught to a person. Except point 3, the other ones are generally inherent in people. These things are difficult to teach but may be easy to learn by looking at others' examples. Point 3 requires some good experience. I am yet to see a coaching class where they teach everything required to master point 3. > Also, I am thinking about taking the RHCE exam. I am not able to > spot much training institutes in Mumbai, CMS Computer Institute > and Gates Training being the only ones I have been able to come up with. After observing the computer institutes in Bombay for over a decade; and after teaching in some of them many years back, I can safely say that you can only learn 10 to 20% of required skills in any institute. The best way to learn is to experiment on your own computer system. It is a long and tortuous route. But it is the best one leading you to be a _true_ sysadmin:) Since you are fresh out of the college, no one is going to take you to administer their critical systems. The best bet for you is to join some company as a trainee and learn the secrets of the trade for next two to four years. That experience will be counted to get a fat pay check afterward. People with good sysadmin skills are always in demand. I have seen many who earn more than those so called _real programmers_ of similar experience level. But one thing to remember is that, sometimes programmers can fake it, but not the sysadmin. You do need to know the internals of the systems you manage. Wishing you a challenging and enjoyable career in system administration. Raghu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tftp installation How-to
by bimal pandit 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

Dear All, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 Ratnakar Koli wrote : >Hi friends, > >I am trying to do a tfpt installation of Centos 5.1, i've been googling around since yesterday morning and hv tried various things but was not able to get it running. All I was able to get is the DHCPD running. > >Can someone please direct me to some good documentation, as to how to setup a PXE boot installation from Centos? > >Thanks > >Ratnakar Koli I would suggest you to read the theory of "LTSP" it works with tftp and the theory is very well explained on the site in its documentation. http://www.ltsp.org/ http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation regards, Bimal Pandit

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tata indicom and firefox
by Kenneth Gonsalves 17 Aug '08

17 Aug '08

hi, you may recall a previous thread on this subject. When I first bought the usb modem I blogged about it here: http://lawgon.livejournal.com/42968.html as you can see, a tata guy read my blog and asked for complaints. He took up the matter and solved my problems. When I had problems with firefox compatibility he again asked for details and I pointed him to our archives. He has now mailed me saying that he has taken up the matter with the tech guys and they now assure him that all defects are rectified and the site is 100% firefox compatible. I dont have any pending bills, so cannot check. Can anyone check and verify this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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[listadmin@linux-bangalore.org: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2008: Event Announcement]
by Devdas Bhagat 15 Aug '08

15 Aug '08

----- Forwarded message from Atul Chitnis <listadmin(a)linux-bangalore.org> ----- Team FOSS.IN is happy to announce that this year's edition of Asia's biggest Free and Open Source Software contributor conference will be held on November 25th to 29th, 2008, at the National Science Symposium Centre, of the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India. As always, this event is focused on actual contribution to FOSS projects, not evangelism or advocacy, in line with the event motto "Talk is cheap - show me the code" The conference website at http://foss.in will have all the information you will need about the event, including the Call for Participation, schedules, speaker, volunteer and delegate registration, etc. The website is currently being populated, and will be opened over the next couple of days. To stay informed about the event and to participate in the discussions about it, subscribe to the event mailing list at http://foss.in/list, follow the FOSS.IN Twitter account at http://twitter.com/fossdotin, subscribe to the website's RSS feed at http://foss.in/feed, or simply keep an eye on the website at http://foss.in Cheerio! Atul Chitnis Project Lead FOSS.IN http://foss.in ----- End forwarded message -----

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tftp installation How-to
by Ratnakar Koli 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Hi friends, I am trying to do a tfpt installation of Centos 5.1, i've been googling around since yesterday morning and hv tried various things but was not able to get it running. All I was able to get is the DHCPD running. Can someone please direct me to some good documentation, as to how to setup a PXE boot installation from Centos? Thanks Ratnakar Koli Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tftp installation How-to
by Sameep 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

> I am trying to do a tfpt installation of Centos 5.1, i've been googling around > since yesterday morning and hv tried various things but was not able to get it > running. All I was able to get is the DHCPD running. > > Can someone please direct me to some good documentation, as to how to setup a > PXE boot installation from Centos? You can try this link. Hope it helps. http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/DisklessClients Regards, Sameep

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tftp installation How-to
by bimal pandit 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Dear All, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 Ratnakar Koli wrote : >Hi friends, > >I am trying to do a tfpt installation of Centos 5.1, i've been googling around since yesterday morning and hv tried various things but was not able to get it running. All I was able to get is the DHCPD running. > >Can someone please direct me to some good documentation, as to how to setup a PXE boot installation from Centos? > >Thanks > >Ratnakar Koli I would suggest you to read the theory of "LTSP" it works with tftp and the theory is very well explained on the site in its documentation. http://www.ltsp.org/ http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation regards, Bimal Pandit

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tftp installation How-to
by bimal pandit 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Dear All, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 Ratnakar Koli wrote : >Hi friends, > >I am trying to do a tfpt installation of Centos 5.1, i've been googling around since yesterday morning and hv tried various things but was not able to get it running. All I was able to get is the DHCPD running. > >Can someone please direct me to some good documentation, as to how to setup a PXE boot installation from Centos? > >Thanks > >Ratnakar Koli I would suggest you to read the theory of "LTSP" it works with tftp and the theory is very well explained on the site in its documentation. http://www.ltsp.org/ http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation regards, Bimal Pandit

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tftp installation How-to
by bimal pandit 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

Dear All, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 Ratnakar Koli wrote : >Hi friends, > >I am trying to do a tfpt installation of Centos 5.1, i've been googling around since yesterday morning and hv tried various things but was not able to get it running. All I was able to get is the DHCPD running. > >Can someone please direct me to some good documentation, as to how to setup a PXE boot installation from Centos? > >Thanks > >Ratnakar Koli I would suggest you to read the theory of "LTSP" it works with tftp and the theory is very well explained on the site in its documentation. http://www.ltsp.org/ http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation regards, Bimal Pandit

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Announce: ILUG-BOM August 2008 Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 13 Aug '08

13 Aug '08

H! Date: Sunday, 24th August 2008 Time: 2:00 - 5:00 PM Venue: HBCSE, Mankhurd, Mumbai (Nagarjun/Anurag, please confirm the venue booking) Agenda: 1. Programing JavaScript (Subject to speaker's availability - Anurag, Please confirm) 2. Fix mailing list archives search (Namazu) 3. Add any other required collaboration software on ILUG-BOM server. 4. Discuss strategy and action plan to oppose and defeat Software Patents in India. More details to follow. Please RSVP on ILUG Wiki. See you all in great numbers. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Lucille Ball - "The secret of staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and lie about your age."

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Http access to Remastered iso's
by Sameep 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Here is the blog-link to the iso downloads hosted at Naveens website. http://sameepk.wordpress.com/ I'm planning to add a few more custom distros. Any ideas on what to include ? Regards, Sameep

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kind att
by IPS Khurana 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

hi i want to use linux for my day to day work, but can i use my HP Photosmart All in one printer C6188 in it, all functions print scan copy fax, CD with this printer does not contains Linux Drivers also can i use FotoSlate of ACD Systems in Linux, or linux version of Fotoslate, something like that. can u suggest which Desktop flavor and version will be right for me P3 machine 512sd ram and 80 gb hdd pls confirm thanks n rgds -- IPS Khurana ***************************** Cell No: +91 9869019416 Khurana Sales & Services Distributors & Wholesellers Total IT Solutions! Thane http://ipskhurana.googlepages.com/ Member of BNI

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Marketing point for LINUX. Can Windows / Linux be made totally safe for WIFI
by Erach 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Hi, Can Windows / LINUX ever be made totally safe for WIFI ? After reading the fact that government wants WIFI security before getting WIFI computers all over Mumbai, I was asked by a friend whether WINDOWS can ever be made totally safe for WIFI all over Mumbai. What about LINUX ? Erach

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Linux with ASUS P5K64, Intel Q6600(?)...
by km 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Subject: Linux with ASUS P5K64, Intel Q6600(?) Experience in buying a WS running Linux? Any problems worth knowing with mid-high-end hardware? Hi List, I have lately decided to assemble a new rig for my graphics work, and your help / suggestions are sincerely solicited. This is a long mail, so please feel free to skip and read at leisure if you may. The primary concern being that it should play well with Linux. Sadly, the ASUS' site only states Windows OS compatibility; //mentioning ASUS here because the MoBo i have rounded up on is mfd by ASUS (Link [1]). Please share if you have any experience or suggestions with the below mentioned configuration. I am really looking forward to some `good` experiences as I am really anxious to get the rig home :) Any help/suggestions/experiences (with vendors even) will be gratefully appreciated. The config: COMPONENT MAKE/MODEL NO. -------------------------------------------- MOTHERBOARD P5K64 WS PROCESSOR Core 2 Quad Q6600 (All vendors in Vashi have denied availability of Q6700 that, I believe is a better processor!) GPU NVidia GeForce 9800 GT 512 MB (denied availability of all specific makes i mentioned; ZOTAC, XFX, ASUS) :( RAM 2 X 2GB Transcend Modules (I've heard that windoze xp (32 bit) etc do not support more than 3GB of RAM; never confirmed though. But I would be most interested to learn, if there is any such limitation with 32 bit Linux distros too! I would be mostly using 32-bit platform for now) -------------------------------------------- With vendors nearby my place playing a game of chess, I really can't expect any help from them regarding OS compatibility and, for that matter, even honest hardware prices. (Will soon post a blog on my experience with vendors while going for this hardware, which was quite a saga!) So, that gives me another genuine reason to turn to the Linuxers for help. :) <OT> Going a bit OT with my experience here: In fact, the vendors have even denied availability of ASUS P5K64 WS, in which case, I might go for an ASUS P5K WS. (Link [2]) "poore India mein kahin nahi mil raha hai! I have spoken to all major distributors" (sic), as a vendor told me for MoBo, Q6700 as well as the ZOTAC graphic card. Sad! He's denied availability of any MoBo about which I have gathered detailed information, while the hardware `remains available` until I do not know the genuine price (-slot, for the Indian market, as I see it, no consistency at all!) </OT> I believe the other components (HDD, Monitor, etc), should not be a matter of any concern in this regard, however, please share any experiences if you will :) Thank you very much for your precious time reading through the long mail :) [1] http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1692&modelmen… [2] http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1691&modelmen… PS: The fact that I have had bad experience with a couple of vendors in Navi Mumbai does not, in any way, mean that I would generalize that there might not be any good vendors in the region; may be, its just that I wasn't lucky enough to find one. TIA Regards, kamal morjal

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Tata Indicom CDMA USB Modem not working with GNU/Linux
by km 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Hi list, Please enlighten me if you have any experience with using the Tata Indicom USB Modem under the Plug 2 Surf scheme. I have recently taken their subscription and facing problems using it with Kubuntu 7.10 It works fine in windoze, but fails to get any data transfer in Linux. I tried connecting using wvdial and also using KPPP. The following is a copy of what i get at the terminal on running wvdialconf: $ sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'. Scanning your serial ports for a modem. ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. Modem Port Scan<*1>: S1 S2 S3 WvModem<*1>: Cannot get information for serial port. ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 Z -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Modem Identifier: ATI -- ERROR ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 4800: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 9600: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 19200: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 38400: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 57600: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 115200: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 230400: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Speed 460800: AT -- OK ttyACM0<*1>: Max speed is 460800; that should be safe. ttyACM0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 -- OK Found an USB modem on /dev/ttyACM0. Modem configuration written to /etc/wvdial.conf. ttyACM0<Info>: Speed 460800; init "ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0" //////// It appears that it successfully detected a USB modem and created a wvdial.conf file accordingly. But on trying to dial using "sudo wvdial", i get the following on the terminal: kamal@kMax:~$ sudo wvdial WvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56 WvModem<*1>: Cannot get information for serial port. WvDial<*1>: Initializing modem. WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATZ WvDial Modem<*1>: ATZ WvDial Modem<*1>: OK WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 WvDial Modem<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 WvDial Modem<*1>: OK WvDial<*1>: Modem initialized. WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATDT#777 WvDial<*1>: Waiting for carrier. WvDial Modem<*1>: ATDT#777 WvDial Modem<*1>: CONNECT WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. WvDial<Err>: Connected, but carrier signal lost! Retrying... WvDial<*1>: Sending: ATDT#777 WvDial<*1>: Waiting for carrier. WvDial Modem<*1>: ATDT#777 WvDial Modem<*1>: CONNECT WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. ... and so on and so forth.. it keeps repeating connection attempts and gives the same error "WvDial<Err>: Connected, but carrier signal lost! Retrying..." I have used wvdial for MTNL Garuda's USB modem on the same installation and it was working fine back then. Also, there was an existent wvdial.conf file with those old settings for MTNL Garuda connection until i executed "wvdialconf" again for the tata indicom USB modem. [* wvdial gave the same problem even with Ubuntu 7.04 installed on the same machine.] While when i tried connecting with KPPP on Kubuntu 7.10, it did succeed in connecting, that is, it showed me that its connected and the USB modem's indicator too indicated a connection. But i still could not surf the net (or ping any websites) Am i missing out something while configuring the connection. Could this be an issue with the DNS? The same modem is working fine for windoze on the same machine. Any help or your experiences in this regard are greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Regards kamal { LINUXERS http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers /}

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Announce: ILUG-BOM August 2008 Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Dear Prashant, On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Prashant Shah <elite.mumbai(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I will give talk on > > "Short introduction to GUI Programming with QT 4 (~ 1 Hr)" > > I will go first. Thanks for volunteering a talk. You are ON if the JavaScript talk does not materialize. Else, we will schedule your talk for Sep Meet. Is that OK with you? Once again thanks for volunteering. I hope others also starts coming forward to speak! With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Douglas William Jerrold - "The only athletic sport I ever mastered was backgammon."

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