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i need to know the locate of my source file for -mysql-4.1.11-2
by Agnello George 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

HI i need to know the location of my source file for mysql...... i want to move my source file to /usr/local/src/ -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza www.linuxitsolutions.org

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Nice article in Times of India
by Rony 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hello All, This is a nice article in TOI, encouraging people to make a switch to GNU/Linux. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/City_Supplements/Bombay_Times/Tim… -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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coolest desktop ?
by Chetan S 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi, I came across this cool info when fiddling with my laptop for solving the hibernate problem -- Temperature info ! so ... # acpi -c -T -B Thermal 1: ok, 43.0 degrees C This with gnome-desktop. Heh, then it struck me, what if i check the temperature on every other desktop env and rate them according to their "coolness" ? KDE and XFCE turned out cooler than gnome, but m'be coz i hadn't enabled any additional features plugins etc etc. But then again if temp is high, would mean that a process is stressing the processor . Can this be a valid way than say top/profile to figure expensive wasteful cycles ? how cool is your tp / desktop ? whats your opinion on this ? regards, C

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Re:Compiz-Fusion on Ubuntu 7.04 and HAL problems
by Easwar Hariharan 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi all, 1)Compiz-Fusion on Ubuntu 7.04 I am using Compiz-Fusion on a Ubuntu 7.04,ATi Radeon XPress 200 series onboard using the proprietary fglrx drivers and Xgl.Though the startxgl script for starting Xgl automatically on boot had a workaround for missing shutdown and reboot buttons,I'm missing my Suspend(Hibernate?) button.Isthere a workaround for this? 2)HAL problems I am the sole user on Ubuntu 7.04 hence my userid has system administration privileges subject to root password.Since I don't have a printer,I disabled cups in System-->Administration-->Services.Also, I disabled Bluetooth support and the second cron service(non-anacron one) and a couple other services.Since then,whenever I login,I'm faced with a dialog box saying "Couldn't initialize HAL" and even after supplying root password,I'm unable to access selected system administration components which include Users and Groups,Services,Network,etc.A dialog box pops up with this: The configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration. The interesting thing is that after I enabled GUI root login by editing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file,even when I login as root,I'm unable to access the above-mentioned components.The above-mentioned dialog box pops up for root as well. :o Can someone help or point out a resource please? Regards, Easwar

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Fwd: Please Read: Need help in replacing music in Fedora package
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> Date: 10-Jul-2007 02:33 Subject: Please Read: Need help in replacing music in Fedora package To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com Cc: lwn(a)lwn.net, fedora-list(a)redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Hello interweb. I need help. (This is going out to a few places, as to hopefully have it picked up) One of my Fedora packages (rocksndiamonds) has a slight problem. Turns out that some of its audio files are straight copies of music which was used without permission. Full details are here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245435 Rather than pull the game out of Fedora entirely, (it is pretty fun, and the music is the only real blocker) I'd like to replace the music with freely distributable music. So, this could be your big chance! Are you a musician? Is someone you know a musician? Would you be willing to give us some music under a Creative Commons license (Attribution or Attribution-ShareAlike only)? The music we need replacement for is: "Alchemy" by Ian Boddy, from "Drive" (emailed Ian) "Czardasz" by Robert Pieculewicz, from "Czardasz" (emailed Robert, now known as "Steve Allen") "The Chase" by Propaganda, from "A Secret Wish" (could not find contact info for Propaganda) "Twilight Painter" by Tangerine Dream, from "Heartbreakers" (emailed Eastgate Music & Media LTD, Management for Tangerine Dream) "21st Century Common Man" by Tangerine Dream, from "Tyger" (emailed Eastgate Music & Media LTD, Management for Tangerine Dream) "Voyager" by The Alan Parsons Project, from "Pyramid" (emailed permissions(a)the-alan-parsons-project.com) "Network 23" by Tangerine Dream, from "Exit" (emailed Eastgate Music & Media LTD, Management for Tangerine Dream) I've emailed the contact points for the artists (when I could find them), but I do not expect that they will be willing to permit the sound sample use. We don't need whole songs, just short sound samples that will endlessly loop while the game plays. The clips do not need to be long, the longest one in the above list is 14 seconds. The format needed is .wav. If you're willing to help, please email me (tcallawa(a)redhat.com). Without replacing this music, we'll have to remove this game from the Fedora package collection. Thanks in advance, ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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LFY July Issue Very Good.
by Rony 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hello All, This month's LFY issue is very nice. It is dedicated towards freedom and graphics. A lot of articles on freedom. A writeup on President Kalaam's dedication towards freedom. It also has a Fedora 7 DVD ( Not tried yet, so holding the brickbats for now ) and a Graphics applications CD. Included in the CD is a Grafpup live cd iso. It is an 80 MB Puppy Linux Cd thats power packed with graphics applications. You can run Inkscape, GIMP and Co. from this lightweight distro. Very good for demos. A must-buy for linuxers in all shapes and sizes. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Wanted Debian Etch DVDs
by jtd 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Who has Debian Etch dvds. I need a set. -- Rgds JTD

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> Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by VKB 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

> > List of Attendents : > > *) Nirav Mehta > *) Mitul Limbani > *) V.K.Bharadwaj > *) ?? > > Thanks & Regards, > Mitul Limbani, Have added my name above, Thanks Mitul & Nirav Regds V.K.Bharadwaj

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 51, Issue 13
by Easwar Hariharan 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

> > Lets start by making a quick post like below, Just make sure you append > your name, and not say me, and me too, count me in. Please put in your > full name. > in order suggested. > > List of Attendents : 1) Nirav Mehta > 2) Mitul Limbani > 3) Easwar Hariharan > 4) > Regards, Easwar

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Re: Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by Nirav Mehta 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi, It would be great if we can get more people. If we are getting another venue for 21st, do let me know. Will convey to Seth and team accordingly. Mozilla is willing to sponsor lunch for about 25 people :) We should know the number of participants in advance to make arrangements. Else, people can manage it on their own. Let us sort this out quickly, so that everyone knows details in advance. :Nirav

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Feedback required on recently released distributions and "jack retasking"
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Those who are using some of the recently released distributions with one of the chipsets mentioned at the end: are there issues with Jack retasking on Linux ? :Sankarshan - From http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-009244.htm Jack Retasking - Automatic reassignment of audio jack functionality based on device type being plugged in. Example: When a microphone is plugged into the speaker jack, the system can automatically re-route the mic data to that jack - From http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm Intel HD Audio also provides improvements that support better jack retasking. The computer can sense when a device is plugged into an audio jack, determine what kind of device it is, and change the port function if the device has been plugged into the wrong port. For example, if a microphone is plugged into a speaker jack, the computer will recognize the error and can change the jack to function as a microphone jack. This is an important step in getting audio to a point where it ‘just works‘-users won‘t need to worry about getting the right device plugged into the right audio jack. Jack retasking applies to: Intel® 430 Chipset Family Intel® 440 Chipset Family Intel® 810 Chipset Family Intel® 815 Chipset Family Intel® 848P Chipset Intel® 852/855 Chipset Family Intel® 865 Chipset Family Intel® 875P Chipset Intel® 910 Express Chipset Family Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family Intel® 925X Express Chipset Family Intel® 945 Express Chipset Family Intel® 955X Express Chipset Intel® 975X Express Chipset Mobile Intel® 910GML Express Chipset Mobile Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGkcU8XQZpNTcrCzMRAoT1AJ0c7RpPUzMvCKR5z6YvdTKINfY3iQCdEUbV r/1b+WdTPyi3ZlXXLdaN9/4= =sbcZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by Joel Solomon 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 jtd wrote : >On Saturday 07 July 2007 10:36, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 10:31:50AM +0530, Nirav Mehta wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I wrote last week about the Firefox Community event happening on > > > 14th July. The event is now rescheduled to 21st because Seth and > > > JT will be attending Open Source Conference in A'bad on 13th and > > > 14th. > > > > > > The plan for the day remains the same. We will be able to > > > accommodate limited people - only 25 - so would like to get your > > > confirmation. If you will be attending the event, please email > > > me: nirav <dot> mehta <at> magnettechnologies <dot> com. > > > > Is it a good idea to limit the participants. We can solve this > > problem by changing the venue. We can do it either at IIT or at > > HBCSE. > >I 2nd that. >Limiting numbers is baaad. We should shift to IIT / HBCSE and maximize >attendance or even to the new foss resource center at VJTI. Anwhere >without number restricitions would be good. >-- >Rgds >JTD > i'm comin there too!! :)

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Open Source Video Editor.
by Rony 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

Hello All, A $dose user was looking for video editing software and a search for open source video editors threw up this software called 'Jahshaka'. It is ported on many platforms, including Linux. It appears to be a pro-level tool so I would appreciate more feedback from those who have already tried it out or those who wish to try it out. http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2005/02/22/open_source_realtime_video_ed… http://www.jahshaka.org/ -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by Easwar Hariharan 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

> > > > Is it a good idea to limit the participants. We can solve this > > > problem by changing the venue. We can do it either at IIT or at > > > HBCSE. > > > > I 2nd that. > > Limiting numbers is baaad. We should shift to IIT / HBCSE and maximize > > attendance or even to the new foss resource center at VJTI. Anwhere > > without number restricitions would be good. > > I 3rd that. I 4th that. :)BTW,count me in,too. Regards, Easwar

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Setting up a internal mail server
by Nihal Kenkre 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

Hey All, I am a newbie to Linux setup and installation. I have worked on Linux before but have no experience of setting up services like mail servers or diskservers. I have 2 boxes to test on, and have looked up lots of material online. They are running on fedora core 4. Please give me in steps on what to do for server and clients seperately. No document referrals please. :) Gone through a million last week. Waiting in anxiety. Thx, Nihal Kenkre.

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Push or Pull: Users of Free Software
by Roshan 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

All, Thought of sharing a "thought" that triggered this email. A GNU/Linux distribution is usually tried and tested by individuals new to it and often want to know how to use it. The approach recommended by most, who have already used it, is by exploring documentation and adopting a "self-help" kind-of approach. There are particularly two articles that revolve around Push : Push users to use distributions defaming a particular brand and improving for inducing the migration. Pull: Give users the freedom to test and use it. Help them occasionally with their problems. The above two ideas are expressed in the following two articles 1. Push http://polishlinux.org/gnu/understanding-the-common-user-everything-should-… 2. Pull http://polishlinux.org/gnu/get-real-or-how-not-to-convert-your-grandma-to-l… The Pull approach seems to be something that a "community" would accept. What as a GNU/Linux User Group should be the approach towards this? [NOTE] Possibly, experienced users of this list are now bored with this kind-of a topic and may choose to ignore it. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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[OT] software testing - Automation tools
by Nishit Dave 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

A friend has sent the following query. Can anyone help? Sorry for the cross-posting! >Does any of you have any experience with software testing tools? I have to select a tool for >automating the tests for a GUI based java application.

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CD DVD covers and labels for etch
by Praveen A 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

Beautiful labels with full gimp xcf files. http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch/ Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Libre equivalents for Photoshop and Corel Draw on Windows platform.
by Rony 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Hello All, Sometimes if making a full switch to GNU/Linux is difficult, there are Libre alternatives to commercial closed softwares available for the windows platform too. For Photoshop, there is the Gimp alternative. http://www.gimp.org/ Its ready packages are available at http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Download all the packages on this page. Install the GTK for your OS version. Then install Gimp. Then its help package (Select only English during installation). Then the animation package if required. For Corel Draw, there is the Inkscape alternative. http://www.inkscape.org/ The exe file is available at http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/?M=D http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/Inkscape-0.45-1.win32.exe -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Does Microsoft have nowhere to run?
by Praveen A 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

http://www.fsdaily.com/Adoption/Does_Microsoft_have_nowhere_to_run/ -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[COMMERCIAL] Help Desk Engineer openings at Red Hat
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Apply online at: https://redhat.ats.hrsmart.com/cgi-bin/a/highlightjob.cgi?jobid=2071 Details below Job Code: 2071 Division: Red Hat Location: , IN Travel Involved: 10-20% Job Type: Full Time Job Level: 1+ years experience Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent Skills: Category: IS,IT Compensation: Not Specified Position Summary: Red Hat has openings for Help Desk Engineers who specialize in Linux Desktop System Administration with excellent troubleshooting, customer service and interpersonal skills. If you are interested in providing a fast, friendly expert service to our internal customers, want to contribute in developing Help Desk into a world class Linux support group, have ideas and the discipline to follow them through, enjoy learning quickly, are interested in dealing with different parts of Red Hat's business on behalf of Help Desk and love working with and supporting Linux then, don't delay - apply now. * Contribute to the skills, knowledge and reputation of the team of Linux professionals in Red Hat's Global Help Desk. * Email, telephone, IRC and in-person support for all employees requiring technical help with user hardware and software issues. * Communicate effectively with employees at all levels of seniority in well spoken and written English. * Participate in global service desk (ticket triage) for all employees. * Exercises expert judgment within defined procedures and processes to determine appropriate action * Provide support to all employees with connectivity (LAN/WAN/WLAN/VPN)issues. * Maintains corporate data integrity, account and file system security. * Perform configuration, upgrades, and relocation of user hardware, software and other devices. * Participate in employee training and education on policy, procedure, processes, information, howtos. * Prepared to travel to remote offices as required to provide on-site support. * Assist the team in documenting all tasks, processes, procedures and information. * In one or more coordinator roles, manage one or more major parts of Help Desk operations and contribute to others. * Be a team member or lead special projects as required. * Must be able to work independently with minimal supervision if required. * Ability to handle shift work and unusual hours if required. Requirements Position requirements: * Expert knowledge and experience with Linux on PCs and/or servers. * Outstanding customer service and interaction skills. * Customer focused and enthusiastic in helping people to resolve technical problems. * Linux system/networking troubleshooting skills essential. * Demonstrated ability to solve problems quickly and skillfully. * Excellent English verbal and written communication skills. * Experience and skill with user hardware installation and configuration. * Experience with coding/scripting: bash, python, C. * Experience in deploying and supporting communications hardware (cellphones, deskphones, video conference). * Proven ability to adapt quickly to organizational changes. * Demonstrated ability to learn and develop technical skills. * Solid Linux experience in a commercial/academic environment (typically 1-5 years) with a history of steady technical progression * Must possess strong computer ethics * BSc/BS degree preferred or equivalent experience. Success in this position will be dependent upon your having good written and oral skills in the English language. Additional language skills are a plus. Culture: http://www.redhat.com/about/culture/ - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGiuOxXQZpNTcrCzMRAkwuAKCZn+vH8Y/QMN0e9FJBN/D91HQPPQCgzBL9 Hvl6S2bHiZSXE9nrcXjcSsE= =to4i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Firewall Successfull.
by Rony 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello All, Some time back I had posted a link for the Arno's firewall for command line. http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/ Since my lines are dead as in 'murda', I am using Reliance FWP as the temporary lifeline. It gives me a public ip so I tested it on the firewall tester site below. I showed all my ports as stealth-ed. http://www.securitymetrics.com/portscan.adp -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: * [ILUG-BOM] Eben Moglen on the GPLv3 process
by jtd 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

what he says in the talk is much more than the process of creating V3. 1) a democratic process for creating legislation 2) the cost of distributing content / code 3) the ethics of depriving society of knowledge so that some can benefit Great analogies too - must read,particularly for those who think that closed software makes business sense. I have been bumping into these continuosly for the past week. I meet a couple of microserfs who were all worked up about a bank which specifies RH enterprise linux. They wanted to know how to get a copy without paying Rs.44k per site. When i said they could download the stuff, they said that RH would sue them. HA HA i loved that. Told them to use Debian. -- Rgds JTD

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[Commercial] Job opening for Perl/PHP programmer and Linux system administrator
by Krishna Dagli 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello , We have openings for following two positions, experience of 6 months to 1 year is must. 1) Linux System administrator: (Possibly with Solaris experience ) 2) Perl/PHP Programmer If interested, please mail your resume to kdagli(a)infofin.com Thanks and Regards. Krishna

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Linux and ReadyBoost
by Mohan Nayaka 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

A discussion on the ubuntu-devel list on the merits and demerits of the ReadyBoost technology in vista. http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00911.… And the patents on it: http://www.google.de/search?q=20060090031 Regards, Mohan S N -- "Certainty of death, small chance of success... well, what're we waiting for? " - Gimli to the Captains of the West

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Re: * Re: [ILUG-BOM] Libre equivalents for Photoshop and Corel Draw on Windows platform.
by jtd 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

On Sunday 01 July 2007 10:05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > are some things FOSS cant yet do - 3d cad for example. It is better > to be honest and honesty will help the foss cause. You mean a drafting packagelike Auto Cad. brlcad does 3d but is not a drafting tool.. Fortunately on the ecad side foss is the standard. Infact most of the commercial vhdl engines are based on the foss versions. Confession- for pcb drafting i still use my ancient 1988 dos Circuit Maker created by a bunch of kickass indian coders. It is beginning to show its age though and i have started playing around with GNU pcb. I have still not got the hang of creating footprints in pcb. -- Rgds JTD

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The Upside Down World - Power of IPTables
by Riyaz Usman 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Just found a nice link demonstrating how network admins can have fun using iptables. :) http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html -- Riyaz Usman http://riyaz.bitinc.co.in 1d:c5:fb:59:df:ec:79:88:ec:81:d9:3a:87:28:10:25

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wifi networking query
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hi people, I'm stuck at home due to the rains and so took up something I had been putting away. Ok here goes: Hardware: PC1 is connected to the net via cable modem attached to eth0 w/ IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd PC1 has a SMC wifi card running under ndiswrapper. Shows up as wlan0 auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.202 netmask 255.255.0.0 gateway aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd PC2 has a ProNet wifi card. Atheros chipset. Shows up as ath0 auto ath0 iface ath0 inet static address 192.168.1.203 netmask 255.255.0.0 gateway aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd PC2 has no other connectivity. Both PCs are running Kubuntu Feisty. There is no firewall running on either machine while I am trying this stuff. Task 1 : to connect both PCs so that they can atleast ping each other. This is what I get. ---------------------------------------------------------------- sharukh@natrum:~$ ping -c5 192.168.1.203 PING 192.168.1.203 (192.168.1.203) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable --- 192.168.1.203 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4017ms , pipe 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Task 2: to be able to connect to the net from PC2 thru PC1's net connection. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if the package says, "Open some-where else"?

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Eben Moglen on the GPLv3 process
by Praveen A 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

....... Capital wasn't what the system required to operate. What it required to operate was proof of concept, and it could be scratched. Running code - something that began scratching the itch, however badly, and a community of people who wanted to see it through. So what GPL3 meant was, proof of concept + running code + presence of community. The concept had been proven already, by GPL2. That is, the substantive concept - we could make a set of rules for sharing that would make it possible to produce software all around the world that would be of ultimately high value, but could be offered to anyone free of charge - and provided with immense freedom to study, modify, and share. There was running code - we worked very hard for almost 2 years to produce a first discussion draft of GPL3, which we unveiled on January 18th of 2006 at MIT - and there was a community; many communities, in fact. But their convocation for the purpose of legislation was a unique event. Every other week for the past 18 months, we've convened a conference call of 21 of the largest IT Vendors in the world. Those companies, whose names are household familiar in every household and business familiar in every business. Working in teams that varied from one person from some of the companies, to five or six in others. Carefully studying every single word, commenting as though their lives depended upon it - as in some of the businesses they did. On every detail of the license's functioning in the global IT economy. We also convened, every other week, a conversation among 24 of the largest users of software in the world. Banks and brokerages, government agencies, and the lawyers who acquire software on their behalf. We consulted every single week with the leadership of large free software projects around the world, some of whom use GPL and some of whom only interact with GPLd code. We spoke to hackers of enormous influence in the community, influence they have gained by their skill in programming and by their willingness to share. By their selflessness in helping others learn, and by the extraordinary wit and intellect whereby they have produced miracles out of thin air for all of us to use for years. We conducted public meetings on every continent, save Antarctica. We negotiated ceaselessly with people over what they needed, what they wanted, what they doubted, what they feared, what their concerns were, and in the end - that's now I'm speaking of, this week, between now and Friday, the license gets itself finished and comes out the door as a final product - in the end, we got agreement. We got consensus. Those who predicted at the beginning of this process that it would dissolve into flame wars, or bad netiquette, or some screeching meltdown benefiting only the monopolists were wrong. I admit that there were days when I feared that they might be right - it was no cakewalk - but everyone who engages in legislation knows that it's never a cakewalk, and almost never pretty. What is interesting about the legislative experience we've just gone through is how little of it, however, had the ultimate ugliness of legislation as we know it in the public sphere. ............ This is only the gist of the talk, read the full transcript http://jeremiad.org/moglentext.shtml Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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(no subject)
by ryan coelho 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Hi All, I have a requiremnet of authenticating users for the samba service using ADS (windows) and not the Local linux users. Grateful if anyone could help Regards Ryan Coelho

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July GLUG meet
by Nirav Mehta 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Dear All, We are organizing a Firefox community event in association with Mozilla Foundation on 14th July at Magnet office in Kandivali East. I have just posted the plan here: http://www.mehtanirav.com/2007/06/29/join-hands-with-firefox/ Was thinking we can also do the GLUG meet that evening at our place. Dibya Prakash has agreed to take a session on Ruby On Rails. Everyone is invited to attend the Firefox event, as well as the LUG meet. We can keep the LUG meet between 5.30 to 7PM. Comments welcome. :Nirav

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Re: [Info] Google desktop search for linux ...
by Kartik Mistry 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

On 6/29/07, "Chetan S" <cshring(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well they finally did it and a beta is out already - > http://desktop.google.com .... > Beagle with its mono bindings was a bit too slow for me ( i could hear > my laptop hdd whir ). And trackerd with catfish was more than tricky > to configure for any relevant results. Interesting. Beagle works fine for me! Anyway, if you still not satisfied with it and wants KDE thingy, recoll is way to go. <shameless advertise> If you use Debian/Ubuntu, you can download it from: http://packages.debian.org/recoll </shameless advertise> Google Desktop is only for i386! Cheers, -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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[Info] Google desktop search for linux ...
by Chetan S 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Well they finally did it and a beta is out already - http://desktop.google.com A quick review - 1. Its fast and returns good results 2. Its still (beta) heavy ( 13 MB footprint in memory ) as compared to windows counterpart. 3. Its very responsive and easy to use. 4. The directories it searches by default is pretty good. 5. Extensible with other plugins. Am not sure how many plugins will work with the linux one. 6. Works with Ubuntu ( the favored one these days ) and rh/sles. 7. Bad bad thing - closed source. They should really find way to wrap their algorithms than closing off the entire app. Beagle with its mono bindings was a bit too slow for me ( i could hear my laptop hdd whir ). And trackerd with catfish was more than tricky to configure for any relevant results. So as of now google desktop wins the competion ( was there one ?) despite its flaws. whats your take on it ? regards, C

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[info] A good Compiz Fusion how to
by Chetan S 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Hi, Now that beryl and compiz have kissed and made up, the new improved kid on the block is called "Compiz Fusion" A nice how to for ubuntu-users - http://vorian.org/?p=82 Basically you need the packages from Trevino's repositories. If you face problem with video playback windows then using ccsm (compizconfig settings manager ) add this to "General Options" > "Opacity Settings" > "Opacity windows" > ((type= Unknown | Menu | PopupMenu | DropdownMenu | Tooltip | Notification | Combo | Dnd | name=sun-awt-X11-XWindowPeer) | (type=Normal & override_redirect=1)) & !(name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer | name=MPlayer ) Oh and keep watching for the new zoom out plugin. It works flawlessly on my measly T42 with 512 MB ram and ATI Mobility. regards, C

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[Article]: Your Freedom needs Free/Libre Software - RMS
by Roshan 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

All, Following is an article on Freedom and Free/Libre Software. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=43&ItemID=13157 -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of Arts, Science and Commerce - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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[OT] Online Security
by Rony 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hello All, I was searching for firewall testers and came across this link. http://www.auditmypc.com/anonymous-surfing.asp This link tells you what information your pc gives to the website. It shows the ip address which is quite normal, but it also gives an area map of where you are located within Mumbai using google maps. My query is that how do they find out the area _within_ the city of your ip address? What does the number value immediately after Bombay indicate? Triband users try it out. "You are from Bombay, XX, in the IN, with an ip of XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX Your IP Address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX " -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth
by Vihan Pandey 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

http://baens-universe.com/articles/When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth

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[ANN] Four day course on Scientific Computing with Python
by Prabhu Ramachandran 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hello, [Sorry about the cross-posting!] This is to announce a 4 day short term course at IIT Bombay on "Scientific computing with Python". The course will be held between 16th-19th July, 2007 at IITB. Complete details on the course, registration and other details are available at: http://ekalavya.it.iitb.ac.in/python_course.do About the course ---------------- Python is a remarkable, modern, free, easy to learn, high-level and powerful programming language that is well suited for scientific computing. This 4-day course aims to give an overview of the various free tools that are in use and under development today that enable a scientist to build sophisticated science/engineering applications with Python. Course Content -------------- The course will first provide a rapid introduction to the Python programming language (ideally participants should be familiar with the language before the workshop begins) and the standard library. The following topics will then be covered: # Efficient array processing in Python using NumPy. # Interactive 2D plotting using matplotlib. # SciPy for general purpose numerical algorithms. # Interfacing Python with FORTRAN, C and C++ using f2py and SWIG. # The notion of MVC design and the use of Traits/TraitsUI to easily create sophisticated graphical user interfaces. # Adding 2D plots to applications using the Chaco toolkit. # An overview of the Visualization Toolkit library and the TVTK package for 3D visualizations from Python. # Extensible plugin-based application frameworks using Envisage. # Scientific data visualization using MayaVi2. # Building a sample application using the above tools. Schedule -------- Dates: 16th to 19th July, 2007. Venue: IIT Bombay, Mumbai. Who Should Attend ----------------- Practicing scientists/engineers who have a passion for writing great software and computer scientists/engineers who build scientific applications. Faculty ------- * Eric Jones -- President and CTO of Enthought Inc., Austin, TX. * Prabhu Ramachandran -- Department of Aerospace Engineering, IITB. Please forward this announcement to anyone who might be interested. Thanks! Regards, -- Prabhu Ramachandran http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/~prabhu

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Kfind does not search symbolic link directories
by Rajen M. Parekh 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hi, I am not able to search Symbolic link directories with Kfind. Kfind is a file searching tool in KDE. It can be used stand alone or from within Konqueror under Tool > Find File. When queried for a file, the searching does not include symbolic link directory. I couldn't find a way to do so. There are many options to search for specific *types* of file (image, audio, device, link, etc.) , modification time, etc. but no option to tell kfind to look into symbolic link directories. Any ideas on what I am missing out ? With gnu's "find" command, there is an option " -L " which scans symbolic link directories too. How does one do it with Kfind ? I couldn't find much with google. Regards, Rajen.

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"The Linux installed has limited functionality"
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hi, Acer has introduced a new range of notebooks starting at under Rs. 20,000. You can check out its features here: http://www.acer.co.in/products/notebooks/aspire3680.html And while you're at it, look for the line at the bottom of the page, which says: "The Linux that is pre-loaded is a free version and would have limited functionality until another operating system is installed" Now, does that mean that some drivers are not available on Linux or is it simply negative marketing for Linux? -- Siddhesh Poyarekar This document validates as Plain Text

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[COMMERCIAL] Sr Technical Support Engineer openings at Red Hat, Pune
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sr Technical Support Engineer * Responsible for answering web based inquiries from customers regarding company software. * Analyzes problems with non-functioning software to identify problem areas and recommend corrective action. * Recommends solutions to customer questions. * Maintains a log of problems so that recurring problems can be reported to product development. * May include team lead responsibilities at this level. * Works under general supervision. * A certain degree of creativity and latitude is required. * Uses skills as a seasoned, experienced professional with a full understanding of industry practices and company policies and procedures; resolves a wide range of issues in imaginative as well as practical ways. * Works on problems of diverse scope where analysis of data requires evaluation of identifiable factors. * Demonstrates good judgment in selecting methods and techniques for obtaining solutions. * Interacts with senior internal and external personnel. * Normally receives little instruction on day-to-day work, general instructions on new assignments. * Typically requires a minimum of 5 years of related experience. Please send CV in Open Document format to punejobs at redhat dot com - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGgUTyXQZpNTcrCzMRAlx0AJwM0rJSjbp/Lv9RYgrH6JXuCgiX+ACePfp9 MVC9ODFlwX7ZouialRwLuBA= =ZFdJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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invalid module format
by nilesh mahajan 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello everybody, I just successfully compiled and build simple kernel module. but when i am trying to insert the kernel module by using insmod command, it gives following error insmod: error inserting 'fcc.ko': -1 Invalid module format and /var/log/messages has the following statement kernel: fcc: version magic '2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 SMP mod_unload 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1' should be '2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1' Is this error due to the 686 & 586 mismatch? How should I fix it? -- Nilesh V Mahajan --------------------------------- Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download.

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Importance of freedom in software.
by Rony 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello All, Here is one article on software piracy but it helps us understand the importance of freedom and why Libre software beats piracy naturally. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/6227364.stm ""You can see that the software manufacturers are trying to move away from a CD key and activation based method to a remote distribution based method, where all the applications and all the software are sitting on a server that they control and you buy time to access that application and you need the credentials to log in," says Dhillon Andrew Kannabhiran, founder of security company Hack in the Box. "As such there's no longer any software that's sitting on your computer," he adds. "There's nothing for you to download, everything is sitting on their server and they control the mechanism by which you interact with those applications." -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: * [ILUG-BOM] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
by jtd 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

On Monday 25 June 2007 15:42, Frederick Noronha [फरॆडरीक नोरोनया] wrote: > > Isn't this a great piece of information for any music lover? There > are a more advantages in using ogg. Ogg is patent-free. Ok, we are > just not bothered about patents here in India, but in this case we > have to be because a lot of music that we listen to everyday is > coming from outside India. Software patents are not recognised in India and in many places in the EU too. It does not matter where the music comes from either as far as software patents are concerned. If you play an mp3 file in india or sell an mp3 codec you would not be breaking the law. And there is no need to deliver a tech homily in a single email. A pointer to the blog is good enough. -- Rgds JTD

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[COMMERCIAL] Open position for Technical Support Engineer - Jboss - Pune
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Job Title : Technical Support Engineer - Jboss Required Skills and Experience * 2+ years of professional work experience * In-depth knowledge of the Java platform * Proven ability and willingness to learn new open source middleware technologies * Strong customer service skills * Demonstrated efficient problem solving techniques * Excellent verbal and written communication skills in English Preferred Skills and Experience * 1 year+ experience/knowledge of one or several JEE/App Server technologies such as JMS, Web Services, Servlets, JSP, JDBC, Hibernate, Tomcat or Datasources * Ability to deal with change and limited structure Location Pune (India). Please send CVs in Open Document Format to Jeetendra Rajopadhye <jrajopad at redhat dot com> with "Technical Support Engineer - Jboss - Pune" in the subject line - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGf7W2XQZpNTcrCzMRApikAJ9LN68wImikgP0hCBGLpuy2RbWw6gCeKPdd YYUd1ST9PspYjTFRZAZ0rFo= =slbQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Ubuntu 7.04 very good for Gigabyte 945 Motherboard
by Rony 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello All, Some days ago I had installed Kubuntu 7.04 on a Gigabyte 945 mobo machine and it had the problem of hanging on shutdown/reboot. So at the same place I loaded the Ubuntu 7.04 DVD that came with this month's Digit mag. and the results were very good. Shutdown as well as reboot was smooth. Video resolution was also excellent. Sound was impressive with the African jungle snare music. After installation I was missing the 'adept' package manager, so it was installed using 'sudo apt-get install adept'. A lot of dependent files were downloaded as it is a kde application. On starting it from the menu, it gave a warning that root previlages are required to make actually changes into the system. I could not locate the edit option for the menu item so a shortcut to main panel was created and that shortcut's properties were edited to add sudo before the adept-manager command. After that Adept ran smoothly. Multimedia setup was very easy. Whenever a media was loaded, the player automatically detected missing codecs and offered to download it. They got automatically downloaded and installed. Only VCD support was not available. Maybe VCDs are out of fashion in the West. DVDs and mp3s played fine. Even one out of two Mpg4 files in the same DVD could be played. The other one ( Charlie Chaplin ) simply forced the player to close every time. Gaim was setup for Yahoo and Google Talk. Google talk's setup was found from the web through a random google search. So those who are planning to buy new systems can go for this board with Ubuntu 7.04. Those who have not yet bought the Digit June issue can do so if they are interested in this bootable DVD distro. As a Kde fan and user, I am green with envy. :-D -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
by Frederick Noronha [फर ॆडरीक नोर ोनया] 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

http://perfector.wordpress.com/ The Perfect Replacement For MP3 Digital music is probably the only kind of music everybody is listening to these days. The reason being that its smaller in size and thus makes it easy to share and store. Imagine downloading a 4 minute track thats approximately 40 Mb in size in a place where access to the internet is terrible and costs a bomb (thats usually the case in most places in the world). Thankfully, compression algorithms exists that can compress the same audio track to one-tenth its size, thus we do not have to imagine the above. Few weeks back I downloaded 2 albums, "My Dying Bride - A Line Of Deathless Kings" and "Slayer - Christ Illusion". The Slayer album was ripped at a very low bitrate and was not sounding too good. The album contained 14 tracks and obviously it was ripped at a lower bitrate to reduce its size. Many thanks to all the people who shared the album with me, but it was just not to my liking. There was no quality and I was furious because it took me a long time to download the album as not many people were sharing it. Boy, what a waste of time and a killer of expectation. Well thats what made me write this. Mp3 is an audio compression format that has taken the world by a storm. Mp3 is almost a synonym for music nowadays as Google is for search. Now, here comes the problem.. MP3 was good at one point in time, but not anymore. What's better? OGG VORBIS. AAC, Lame, MP3Pro neither of 'em match up to Ogg Vorbis' standards. Don't take my word for it, you can do simple tests to prove it. Take your favorite audio cd, select a track that you have heard a million times and don't mind listening to a hundred more and rip it to ogg vorbis as well as to mp3. Compare the mp3 and the ogg file to the track on the cd by listening, well now you know what I'm talking about. The ogg file is a much faithful reproduction of the cd than the mp3. An ogg file of 80kbps (bitrate) is equivalent to an mp3 encoded at 128kbps. Hey, there is still one more issue called "size". Ofcourse here again the ogg file beats the mp3 hollow. For the same size one can achieve a higher bitrate with ogg vorbis than with mp3. The best part ogg vorbis by default encodes in variable bitrate (which deliveres better quality than constant bitrate). Isn't this a great piece of information for any music lover? There are a more advantages in using ogg. Ogg is patent-free. Ok, we are just not bothered about patents here in India, but in this case we have to be because a lot of music that we listen to everyday is coming from outside India. Musicians who sell their songs in mp3 have to pay royalties. They could just save a bit more of cash by selling all over the world their songs in ogg vorbis. Not just does it benefit them but it also benefits listeners and fans. But do you think that they are seriously bothered? Music is become a business rather than an art form. Nobody cares about the quality of music their fans are listening to as long as they are minting big bucks and are being voted for the Grammy's. Portable players like ipod's also have to pay royalties but still are unwilling to support patent-free formats like ogg. Why? Because they too are doing well in selling their products. Neither the musician nor the manufacturers of players are bothered about the listener. As a guy on one of the mailing lists puts it "if only all the music in china was ripped into ogg vorbis", surely then a lot of players would be supporting it. There are a few portable players available that support ogg vorbis. Many of the game developers are using ogg vorbis and are very happy with the quality of sound and even happier because they are getting away without paying licenses. e.g. Doom 3. Ogg is only the container just like avi. It can contain several data streams at once, like video and the corresponding audio. Vorbis is the name of an open source audio compression format. There exists Theora for video compression and Speex for speech. I haven't really tried these though. If you notice I haven't mentioned anything about Windows Media Audio (wma) and Real Audio (ra), thats because I find these to be very cheap proprietary formats. I would never recommend these to any music lover. The best part about using ogg is that its open source. A lot of intense development will continue to take place to ensure that ogg vorbis remains the best. Its going to be literally impossible for any other proprietary format to beat ogg in the future. Almost all linux distributions play ogg out of the box. Things are looking bright for ogg, especially with all the Dell machines being sold with Ubuntu, we can expect a lot of vorbis encoded music from the US. Happy listening! June 25th, 2007 Categories: General . Author: stan . Comments: No Comments -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts

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PPPoE
by Omkar Raut 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hi, I want to configure ppp to dial my isp(pacenet). For some reason I do not wish to use the rp-pppoe package. I think its possible to configure PPPoE using defualt pppd. I couldn't find a working /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. The error I am getting is "Attempting to reconnect".Even I have set mtu to 1492(as suggested on a freebsd). But I don't know what does mtu mean. Can someone point me the correct ppp configuration for use with cable net? Regards, Omkar.

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tally 5.4 on linux? / alternative to tally 5.4 on linux?
by pp raj 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

> i have recently switched on to linux. > previously i was using tally 5.4 version on win xp. > now i want to know how to use it on linux? (pl do not suggest > higher versions of tally as i am incapable of buying them and > since now tally 5.4 is free, i want to use it .....thats it) > (because i hav my data entered in tally & dont want to rekey the > huge data again in linux) > or is there any alternative free package which is exactly same > as tally > > plz help me as i m in trouble....... --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! [readmsg.fcg?msg=118209759416041]

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kind attn Fedora 7
by IPS Khurana 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

hi i would like to switch over to Red Hat Ent 9 orFedora 7 project.. but i would like to enquire whether it supports all in one HP printer,scanner, n DVD writer..etc can some one give me DVD of Fedora Project.. pls confirm -- IPS Khurana ***************************** Cell No: +91 9869019416

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