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[Project] ColourCode 0.2 released
by Nikhil Marathe 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

Hello all developers out there, I have released version 0.2 of ColourCode. ColourCode is a small ruby application to generate syntax highlighted HTML files from a source file. It is released under the GNU GPLv2 Currently it supports Javascript, Java, C++, C#, Python, Ruby and Shellscript(bash). I would appreciate it if some of you could take a look at it. If you find any bugs, that would be helpful too. To download colourcode go to http://22bits.exofire.net/browse.php/code/colourcode Thanks, Nikhil -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reclaim your digital rights, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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congratulations and thanks
by Nagarjuna G. 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

My hearty congratulations to all of you, who made the gnowledge.org portal launch a great event. let us all continue to make this one of the largest collaborative portals in the world. Though the event marks the end of a project, for those who are in it, it is a beginning. The gnowledge portal team is now ready to take calls to conduct workshops to introduce the new way of organizing a very large amount of free knowledge that already exists on the Internet. Best way to begin is to register at the portal and begin contributing in your area of work. We can all decide together, how to shape this portal in future. Nagarjuna

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Errors while Installing the Glibc-2.4.6
by James Smith 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

I'm building and installing the Glibc-2.4.6 library and getting the following errors when I install: Entering state 2 Reading a token: Now at end of input. Reducing stack by rule 2 (line 345), extdefs -> program Stack now 0 Entering state 1 Now at end of input. /tools/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: : No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Execution of gcc failed! The script has found some problems with your installation! Please read the FAQ and the README file and check the following: - Did you change the gcc specs file (necessary after upgrading from Linux libc5)? - Are there any symbolic links of the form libXXX.so to old libraries? Links like libm.so -> libm.so.5 (where libm.so.5 is an old library) are wrong, libm.so should point to the newly installed glibc file - and there should be only one such link (check e.g. /lib and /usr/lib) You should restart this script from your build directory after you've fixed all problems! Btw. the script doesn't work if you're installing GNU libc not as your primary library! make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tools/glibc-2.3.6' make: *** [install] Error 2 root:/tools/glibc-2.3.6-build# I check everything listed above maybe I missed something. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, Jim --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!

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Edubuntu 6.06 LTS on Acer 2428 Report.
by Rony 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Hello All, The knowledge.org DVD that was released today has an Edubuntu 6.06 LTS iso in it. Just to try it out I burned it into a CD. It loaded smoothly in the pc for a live session. Then it was tried on the Acer 2428 laptop too and not only was the live session good but it installed smoothly into the HDD too. What I remember is that during a demo camp for linux, Ubuntu 6.06 as well as 6.10 threw up problems with Acer 2428 laptops. On mine too Ubuntu 6.10 would hang. Those lappys had to be loaded with Kubuntu 6.06. However Edubuntu 6.06 does not seem to have any issues with Acer 2428 and it uses the gnome desktop just like Ubuntu (which does not work on it). Another advantage of edubuntu over ubuntu is that its gnome comes loaded with graphics softwares like Scribus, Paint, Video Editor, Draw etc. So its more than just a distro for kids. Its for the aunties and uncles. However I could not play VCDs. Anyway I am used to it now. Wireless support for gnome is in-built so unlike kde, there is no separate wireless manager. Its handled by the 'Networking' utility in the 'Administration' menu under 'System'. Once your WAP is up, simply use the networking utility and under the blank list of available networks, a click on the drop down list will reveal your WAP's name below. Don't get confused by the blank space initially. Overall, a much better option than Ubuntu. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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[OT] Hacking is surely a poorly understood term...
by Dinesh Joshi 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Hi, Take a look at this link: http://www.gatestraining.com/bootcamps_CHFI.aspx?Course=15 Computer Hacking Forensic Investigator! :/ This is like some certificate course by Reliance and Ankit Fadia?? Hacking is not a bad thing... Hackers are not bad people... Shouldn't we do something about it??? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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Computer le lo aur Linux training PHREE!!
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

That's what I heard in the background when my sister called me this evening. I got her to pick up the pamplet and found that a company named Vinsoft Technologies was doing this. It's providing packages of computers+AMC+training. Also, apparently there's some big poster on Churchgate station on Linux as well. I didn't get a chance to see that though. Publicity is good :) At least it will make the name familiar to those who don't have a clue. -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Fwd: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
by Kenneth Gonsalves 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

i have been requested to forward this message from ilugd mailing list Begin forwarded message: > From: "Sudev Barar" <sbarar(a)gmail.com> > Date: 1 February 2007 7:15:41 AM GMT+05:30 > To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007 > Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org> > > On 31/01/07, Sandip Bhattacharya <sandip(a)lug-delhi.org> wrote: > [SNIPPED] >> It is quite obvious what their point of participating in the event is >> about. I don't understand how a company which doesn't contribute to >> Linux is any positive/constructive way, can be allowed to >> participate in >> such an event. What is the criteria for participating in this >> apparently >> Linux event? > > > uummmm....that amongst others is why ILUG-D stayed away from the > event. > >> Conversely, is there any way a Linux company can participate in an >> Microsoft promoting event and talk about the virtues of Linux? > > Let us find out by proposing such a participation at next MS event and > if they refuse try to highlight it in press. Unfortunately most of the > main stream press does not know or care. > > -- > Regards, > Sudev Barar > > _______________________________________________ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Re: Feb Meet and SELF Conference
by C.E. Hariharan 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

> > "gaurav chaturvedi" wrote > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Feb Meet and SELF Conference > I dont care about the gyan i will get for my 200 bucks. What i do care > about > is not to pay 200 bucks to attend my glug-bom meet. It just dosnt seem > right > to me. I dont mind paying the money to attend the conf though. But acccording to a recent mail,students are sponsored by some companies and they don't have to pay the 200/- bucks....does that include engg students? > For those who may want to get an idea of TIFR's location, please visit > the link below. > > Conference Venue : > Homi Bhabha Auditorium > Tata Institute of Fundamental Research > Homi Bhabha Road, Mumbai 400 005, India > Day: 2nd February 2007 > Time: 9am - 6pm > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=mumbai&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=15&ll=18.9095… > > I don't know if any bus directly goes to TIFR. Otherwise there are two > main bus depots, Colaba Depot on Nanabhai Moos Marg ( Colaba Causeway) > and Backbay Bus Depot. From there you can continue by Taxi or walk it up > if you can. To check out the bus routes visit the link below. > > http://www.bestundertaking.com/transport/index.htm > > Thanks Rony,for the information on behalf of the list. Regards, Easwar

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[COMMERCIAL] Linux + Solaris +NetBSD requirements
by Sudhir Gandotra 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

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SELF Conference Venue Map.
by Rony 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Hello All, For those who may want to get an idea of TIFR's location, please visit the link below. Conference Venue : Homi Bhabha Auditorium Tata Institute of Fundamental Research Homi Bhabha Road, Mumbai 400 005, India Day: 2nd February 2007 Time: 9am - 6pm http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=mumbai&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=15&ll=18.9095… I don't know if any bus directly goes to TIFR. Otherwise there are two main bus depots, Colaba Depot on Nanabhai Moos Marg ( Colaba Causeway) and Backbay Bus Depot. From there you can continue by Taxi or walk it up if you can. To check out the bus routes visit the link below. http://www.bestundertaking.com/transport/index.htm Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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[commercial] linux admin+programmer
by Chandrashekhar Bhosle 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Hi, Need two guys who know basic Linux administration + one programming language, ideally Tcl/Tk but php/perl would do. Ideally 1 or 2 years exp but freshers are fine if they're competent. Contact me. ASAP. - cnb

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help wanted regarding memory model in C program
by romel dutta 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

hello everyone, first of all my apologies to all,for asking a question that may be very silly,but i am not ashamed to tell that i duuno the concept about this... :-(,so i am ready to show my ignorance and not become ignorant my whole life...anyway following is the question,and please can some one define it or give some good link about it.It will be really helpful for me. 1) Where in memory exactly auto,static and extern(global) variables are stored..? 2) Detail explanation of the memory model of a C program. I am confused where in memory these variables are stored and also what are the stages in memory during compilation.. It will be very helpful for me,if someone guide me. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Romel You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw

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Re: Please test libyahoo2!
by Kartik Mistry 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > i think he labelled it OT because he knows that OT is where the > action is. I propose that we ban all guys who label non-OT stuff as > OT for the sole purpose of getting attention. I don't have any issue if I am banned. Take action!! (atleast, better than flaming me on the list and eating my bandwidth!) By the way, have you tested it? :) -- Regards, --------------------------------------------------- KartiK MistrY | kartikmistry.org 0xD1028C8D | kartikm.wordpress.com ---------------------------------------------------

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[OT for some] Please test libyahoo2!
by Kartik Mistry 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Dear all, I have created libyahoo2 package for Debian. Anyone using Debian unstable can get it from there. Or you can get source and build it your own from: http://packages.qa.debian.org/liby/libyahoo2.html Please report the issue on Debian BTS. Hope that I will not be flamed for this {OT}. -- Regards, -------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | kartikmistry.org 0xD1028C8D | kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------

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OffTopic : BarCampMumbai | University Level
by Ankur Gupta 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

This goes out mainly to the students on this mailing list BarCampMumbai | University Level is being organized on Feb 11th @ K.J. Somaiya College of Engineering. For the unaware "BarCamp is an ad hoc un-conference born from the desire for people to share and learn in an open environment. It is an intense event with discussions, demos, and interaction from attendees." Registering and more information -> http://barcamp.org/BarCampMumbaiU Some reason why you would want to attend the barcamp are You want to demo some project / programs you are working/worked on. Want to talk on some new language / technology you are using. Or just want to meet some like minded students. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Debian trends and future distros.
by Rony 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

Hello Everyone, Here are some news tips and updates for Debian and its alied distros. During April 07, Ubuntu will come out with a multi-media centric distro called UbuntuStudio http://ubuntustudio.org/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio There is also another media centric Ubuntu called Ubuntu Multimedia Center http://ubuntummc.com/ During that time the new Ubuntu versions 7.04 will be released too. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue28 Debian 4 which is still under 'Testing' and will be finally called Etch http://www.us.debian.org/releases/testing/ can be downloaded for trial using a small netinstall iso http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ from http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ The netinstall iso is the base system only. But saves download of heavy dvds for testing. There are CD isos too but I don't know which iso contains what packages. I downloaded the netinstall iso which was 130 MB and used 'installgui' at boot prompt to use and study its GUI installer. Its really great and very good for non-experts to try out Debian. It works smoothly just like Fedora's Anaconda. Its kernel is 2.6.17. During installation, the Desktop option was selected during package selection and it download 540 MB of Gnome desktop. My 400 MB triband account is screaming and hysterical at the heavy downloads this month. :P Gnome in Etch RC1 is 2.15. In Ubuntu 6.10 it is 2.16. After install, the updates prompter in Etch states that kernel 2.6.18 image is available. So thats a plus point for Debian Etch. Gnome in Etch is a bit buggy. Its printer tool allows you to select and choose printers but at the final 'Apply' button, the entire process vanishes into thin air. You are back to square 1. The best way to setup printers in _any_ linux distro is to ensure that CUPS is running and use a web browser and type localhost:631 in the address bar. 631 is the CUPS port for printing. If you have enabled network administration ( see docs on the CUPS website) you can access your printer from across different machines by typing Your_Printer_PC_IP_Address:631 If you are a command line fan or X is not loaded then use the lynx text browser to do the same in command line. 'lynx localhost:631' You can change printer settings too, like page size, resolution etc. Another bug with gnome is that its automatic NetworkManager applet initially detects the connection established but after a reboot or two, it does not even detect the network device. All this while network is actually working and giving internet access. But Gnome in etch packs in some more packages and utilities compared to Ubuntu 6.10. It has a separate CD burning utility ( cannot recall its name) just like K3B in KDE. The default in-built burning utility still exists. The best option then would be to use both Gnome and KDE in Debian Etch and for that request someone who has its DVD to make a copy for you. ;) Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Gnome under KDM possible?
by Sachin G Nambiar 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

If you install kde over gnome does it overwrite gdm? i mean does gnome work under kdm? I went through a few links under google but none could give me an answer! Or do the display managers work exclusively as in Gnome by default uses gdm whenever you log into gnome and kde uses kdm whenever i log into KDE? Sachin G. Nambiar

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problems with installing ubuntu on an intel ggc based machine Please help.
by krishnakant Mane 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

hello. I had the shock of my life today. I had previously mentioned about a server installation I have to do. I don't find it will be any problem after the feedback I got about fedora. however there is another case which is really very interesting. I am trying to install gnu/linux on a machine with a seluron 2.8 processor and an intel ggc 2 motherboard with ati radeon display (the board is the latest intel mobo) if the case was a very streight forward case I would never have a problem in changing the distro. but I got the following interesting results. 1. ubuntu 6.06.1 (dapper) booted nicely with every device driver but display resolution was very bad probably 640 by 480. 2. ubuntu 6.10 was even more interesting. it did not boot at all on a machine with the same ggc 2 mother board with a seluron processor but booted very well on the same mobo with intel p4 3ghz processor. 3. fedora core 5 did not show up the graphical installer but I managed to install it without any desktop like gnome or kde. so the best part was on all computers ubuntu 6.06 aka 6.06.1 booted without proper display. and ubuntu 6.10 did not boot on the same ggc motherboard with seluron 2.8 processor and booted perfectly well with the same mobo with a p4 3 ghz processor. another small thing although it might not mean any thing. on the seluron and ggc mobo combination 256 mb ddr2 ram is available and on the p4 with ggc mobo 512 ddr2 ram. what shockes me time and again is that how 6.06 boots on every machine being older and 6.10 is so inconsistent. secondly 6.10 not just booted but gave perfect display (umm well at least 800 by 600) on a ggc with p4 and did not boot at all on other seluron machine with same mobo? Please sort out this problem and suggest the perfect distro. Krishnakant.

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[Comics: Dilbert] Interesting
by പ്രവീ ണ്‍‌| Praveen എ|A 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

http://news.yahoo.com/comics/070125/cx_dilbert_umedia/20072501 Cheers Praveen -- Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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gnu/linux compatible interactive applications for children
by Abhishek Daga 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

Hi, I am running ubuntu dapper drake and works well for my needs. However now the time has come to introduce some interactive applications for toddlers. Its a long shot but are there any such media companies or specific applications that will run on my system? Examples of such CD/DVDs can be: 1) Learning alphabets and numbers 2) Nursery Rhymes 3) Click n paint and so on. I do have wine installed where i run IE6 and other exe applications. In parallel i will try and install some of those apps and see if it works, but in the meantime if anyone can supply me with some known-to-work names or feedback, I'll appreciate it. Thanks Abhi ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 129
by C.E. Hariharan 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

> > Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:Funding is not for GLUG members. It is for > students. What types of students are included eg:undergrad,postgrad,professional courses,...? are engg students allowed? :) Regards, Easwar

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suggest a TV tuner card
by manish mallan 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

Hi, i have AMD 64-bit machine runing Ubuntu (Dapper). i want to make it into a media centre pc can somebody suggest me which TV tuner card to go for?

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Core2 Duo on Linux.
by Rony 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

Hello All, I came across this article on linux for Core2 Duo. http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/22/0415251 What does the author mean by the statement thats quoted below? "Since we have a new core in this review, I decided it was prudent to pull out both 64-bit and 32-bit versions of Linux. We wanted to find out where Core 2 shows the most performance and how it did versus AMD in each mode. The table below shows the compile options for each OS and processor type. I didn't go all out and be over-aggressive here. It was important to compile the applications for each specific processor type but not be too aggressive and cause instability." What compilation has he done? Is he actually compiling the kernel or packages or does he give the specific commands at boot prompt? Could someone briefly explain the process? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: Debian trends and future distros
by Kartik Mistry 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

On 1/27/07 Rony <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > There are CD isos too but I don't know which iso contains what packages. Please install popularity-contest package to get your favourite package in earlier CDs! > Gnome in Etch is a bit buggy. Its printer tool allows you to select and > choose printers but at the final 'Apply' button, the entire process > vanishes into thin air. You are back to square 1 Please report the bug! > Another bug with gnome is that its automatic NetworkManager applet > initially detects the connection established but after a reboot or two, > it does not even detect the network device. All this while network is > actually working and giving internet access. Please report the bug!! Thanks. -- Regards, --------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | kartikmistry.org 0xD1028C8D | kartikm.wordpress.com ----------------------------------------------------

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File Deletion
by neelam 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

hi, I want to delete files older than a particular date or older than a particular no of days. the command i used for this is on a usual linux machine was- find /dir -type f -mtime +7 | xargs rm -f ( also i used a combination of "touch" and "find" which too worked fine) now my problem is i have to perform the same task only in C (without using shell script ) as the device for which i m writing this module has its own small linux kernel and hence doesnt support many commnads like "find" , "more" ,"mv" etc .......... i am aware of the remove() function in C but how do i get the date a file was last modified and then delete it ??? Any solution / suggestions will b of great help to me ........... thnx .......... --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

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Lack of IDE suooprt on 965 mobo.
by Rony 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

Hello All, Yesterday when I was searching for core2 info on the net, I came across complaints that the Intel 965 board PATa (parallel IDE port) is not detected by the Linux distros and the alternative is to use a SATA CD ROM or usb install. Even Dinesh J. had mentioned it. My query is that why does a distro need to understand or talk to the IDE or PATA port controller chips when the port itself is a universal port with pins dedicated to power, read, write, address and data? Shouldn't the BIOS be the interface that takes communication _internally_ between the port and its controller chip? Another point is that why is the old XP SP2 2002 edition able to talk to the _new_ PATA controllers on 965 while the new linux distros cannot? Is there a windows specific command structure secretly available between M$ and the BIOS manufacturers? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Install Debian GNU/Linux from Windows
by പ്രവീ ണ്‍‌| Praveen എ|A 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

Hi, You want to install GNU/Linux, but don't have a cdrom/floppy/bootable usb drive? (I faced this challenge some time back and this document helped me http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html ). It is easier now. You can install Debian GNU/Linux if you have a working internet connection and you are running a Microsoft Windows Operating system. Debian now has an installer that runs on Windows!!! http://goodbye-microsoft.com.nyud.net:8090/ (the site seems to be suffering from high requests at the moment. So other pages might not work) Cheers Praveen -- Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Ubuntu Multimedia Centre CDs?
by Rony 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hello All, If anyone has downloaded Ubuntu Muitimedia Center RC1 CDs then could I have a copy of the same? I read the reviews and it appears to rock. It plays propriety media formats out of the box. I would try it on various hardware. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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is fedora suitable for server, any experienced users?
by krishnakant Mane 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

hello all. one of my clients is confused about the differences or rather the non-differences (as usual with most of the semi experienced gnu/linux users ) wants me to setup a server but is only confident about a distro named fedora. they have been using fedora for quite some time on a dual boot machine. but if at all I were to setup a server, will fedora suit the server requirements? there will be only gnome installed and that too wont run by default because I am going to set the machine to init level 3. we are supposed to run a ftp server which will mostly be proftpd and also apache server with php support. mysql5 will also be installed on the server. so since the customer wants fedora I wont be ready to start a distro flame war as long as fedora can handle the needs of a secured stable server. the setup is in narel which is away from mumbai so I can't go there very often hence I need a stable server. regards. Krishnakant.

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[Commercial]LinuxAsia Bulletin: Compilation of recent announcements
by Niraj Sahay 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

===================================== LinuxAsia 07: Important Announcements ===================================== Programme details have been announced ************************************* The talks, the speakers, the dates, the venue, the time slots--are all up there. Some are still tentative, but most of it is what you'll experience at LinuxAsia 07. Day 1 Programme(Jan 31, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/p1.php Day 2 Programme(Feb 1, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/p2.php Day 3 Programme(Feb 2, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/p3.php *February 2, 2007(9:00 am to 10:00 am): Summer of Code BoF session by Google as part of the coffee with community session. CXOSummit Programme(Feb 1, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/cxo.php Sub-version workshop announced ****************************** # FREE registration. Limited seats (50) # For details, check here: http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/workshop.php # To register, go here: http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/users/delegate.php (click option for 'more events') # If you've already registered for LinuxAsia, send email to team(a)fosii.org stating "I want to attend sub-version workshop too" in your subject and mention your name and registration-ID. 50 More Community Passes Released ********************************** With the initial 500 COMMUNITY PASSES gone, 50 more have been released. Register at http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/users/delegate.php and select the 'Community Pass' option Coffee With Community ******************** Every morning (9 am to 10 am), come over and enjoy a cup of coffee at LinuxAsia 07. Meet peers from India and abroad. Network, discuss, debate. No registration. No fees. Just the want to bond with the community is enough. ILUG-Delhi: Thank You ********************* We thank the iLUG-Delhi for incredible support. Over 150 members have registered, and we have a few speakers on the technology track too. Other Announcements ******************* # Any IT Heads/Managers who want to share their Linux/OSS success stories at the CXOSummit--send us your details at team(a)fosii.org or contact Niraj at 09899637885. # Special offer for delegations from IT firms and educational institutions--for details call Atul at 09899533663.

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Sun Ultra SPARC T1
by Debarshi Ray 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2006-03/sunflash.20060321.3.xml So OpenSolaris is dead and useless. JTD and Vihan do not bother proving otherwise, because certain class of people will never listen. The Sun UltraSPARC T1 certainly is not. So check out the above link. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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[ILUG-BOM][OT]Core2Duo, Pentium D and Other hardware queries
by mehul 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

On 1/27/07, C.E. Hariharan <easwarno1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > These problems are in Linux? No. In the Samsung drive, be it any OS doesn't matter. Though there are lucky few who escape this tragedy. Well it is Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation and in India,it's > supported by samsung..... Yeah that's a samsung drive. what's OT? Off Topic. This whole discussion has gone OT for the LUG list. And I checked the intel's website yesterday, the URI that was given, they have not even listed any recent distros there. There's no mention whatsoever of Ubuntu, Fedora Core, OpenSuse. I see only enterprise distributions or others which are unknown to me. So, atleast I wouldn't trust that page at all

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 121
by C.E. Hariharan 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

> > > C.E. Hariharan wrote > Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the > > live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When > > you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your > > last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free > > space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. > > Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a > > slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then > > let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is > > your C: drive. > > > I have only two partitions,C: and D: 37.27 GB each.... > > You have a lot to learn in the linux world. Don't go by what the big > > names say. More oft than not they are wrong. AFAIK 101 board has no > > problems with Ubuntu. If ever in doubt, google is your best friend. I > > googled ( Linux + Intel + 101 + board + problems ) and in about 2 mins > > I found out that 101 works well with FC4/5/6. So Ubuntu must > > definitely support it. Try it out and see if it works. If it doesnt > > then the community will surely help you out. Same story with my > > DG965RY board. > > > I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last > post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he has....ie TSSTCorp > CDW/DVD SH-M522C.... > I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last > > post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he has....ie TSSTCorp > > CDW/DVD SH-M522C.... > Is that Samsung? Then I would suggest you to return it ASAP. Samsung are > the > worst optical drives I have heard from. I have seen so many complaints > from > lots of users at different forums and experienced it myself too. Either > the > problem is with tray - it doesn't open or doesn't close properly, or with > the laser - doesn't read the media. These problems are in Linux? Get something like LiteOn or maybe even Sony. > PS: - I have marked OT as it seems topic has gone way too OT for the list. Well it is Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation and in India,it's supported by samsung.....what's OT? Regards Easwar PS:When I wrote that I wouldn't like to experiment,I meant BOSS and not Ubuntu....:-)

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Today! Creativedot Community Streaming: Jan 27 3-4pm
by Frederick Noronha 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vipul Mathur <vipul(a)cse.iitb.ac.in> Creativedot Community Streaming event Timing: January 27, 2007 Live Streaming 3pm to 4pm. IST. Streaming Location: http://streaming.creative.linux-delhi.org:8000 Venue: SOM Foyer (near entrance to SOM), with the Creative Commons display. IIT Bombay. All are invited to participate. If you play a musical instrument, sing, write poetry, or do anything creative which can be recorded as sound, then be at the venue (SOM, IIT Bombay) 2:30pm onwards! Details below. If you can't make it to the venue in time, listen in on the URL above! -Creativedot Team http://www.creativedot.org/ Vipul Mathur wrote: Hi all, Creativedot [1] in association with linux-delhi.org, Creative Commons India [2] and Kandalaya [3] will conduct its first community streaming event at IIT Bombay on 27th January 2007. We invite you to perform anything which can be recorded in audio format. Your performance will be available live through Creativedot. This means world will be able to listen to your performance live on the Internet. So, if you can sing, recite poetry (poem should be written by you) or can play any instrument, please visit us at IIT Bombay on 27th January 2007 afternoon. Exact time and venue will be posted soon. At the launch [4] of Creative Commons India on 26th January 2007 at IIT Bombay, Creativedot will be distributing CDs of photographs and other imagery posted under a Creative Commons license at Creativedot and flickr. --Creativedot Team [1] What is Creativedot? http://www.creativedot.org, affectionately called creativedot, is a momentary, delicate experiment, that explores whether creatively-inclined people in India are willing to share their creative artworks such as photography, calligraphy, illustrations, graphics, designs, sounds, music, video clips, poetry and more, under a Creative Commons or copyleft license. [2] Creative Commons India, http://www.cc-india.org/ [3] Kandalaya, http://www.kandalaya.org/ [4] Launch of Creative Commons India, http://www.cc-india.org/?p=22 -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com

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Console based movie player
by Sarfaraz Kazi 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi! I am looking for a console based movie player similar to mplayer. I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) and facing problems in compiling mplayer on my system. I googled for an alternative solution but couldn't find anything useful. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Sarfaraz.

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Re:Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

> > Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the > live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When > you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your > last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free > space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. > Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a > slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then > let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is > your C: drive. I have only two partitions,C: and D: 37.27 GB each.... You have a lot to learn in the linux world. Don't go by what the big > names say. More oft than not they are wrong. AFAIK 101 board has no > problems with Ubuntu. If ever in doubt, google is your best friend. I > googled ( Linux + Intel + 101 + board + problems ) and in about 2 mins > I found out that 101 works well with FC4/5/6. So Ubuntu must > definitely support it. Try it out and see if it works. If it doesnt > then the community will surely help you out. Same story with my > DG965RY board. I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he has....ie TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C.... In the end a little tweaking, searching and community help went long > way in getting my system working smoothly and I am ECSTATIC that Linux > runs my system! :) >

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Daylight Saving Time
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi The United States Congress passed an energy policy act which will change the start and end dates for daylight savings time (DST). The changes go into effect March 2007. Microsoft has released patches for this. Is there any requirement to do anything on Linux boxes ? Regards Mangesh

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Controlling spam.
by Debarshi Ray 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/ListHelperAntiSpam The above link documents a nice way to control spam on GNU Mailman run mailing lists. I am using it on 2 lists.gnu.org lists and 1 non lists.gnu.org list. Things seem to be ok till now. Cheers, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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The Linux Brochure [Concluded]
by Rony 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hello All, Now that the wiki is up, I have uploaded the final pdfs with the spellings corrected. This successfully concludes the Linux Brochure (for beginners) idea and implementation. You are free to print these files as per your convenience and technology available. I will get in touch with my local printer. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure4.pdf http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure3.pdf http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure2.pdf http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure1.pdf A big thanks to everyone who participated and gave their inputs and suggestions for this idea and helped in realizing it. Now the next idea I will be putting into reality is the Wireless Linux Download one where a local web server gives out Linux distros through a wireless LAN (WAP) for anyone to bring a laptop and download. The process for gathering the hardware will begin soon and I will setup a command line linux distro with apache. Then, I may request the list for help in building the site. Thanks and Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] is fedora suitable for server, any experienced users?
by Debarshi Ray 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

> but if at all I were to setup a server, will fedora suit the server > requirements? Yes. I have especially found Fedora Core 2 and Fedora Core 5 to be the most stable of the lot. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Microsoft sells Linux to Wal-Mart
by Sujeet Bhatt 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Wal-Mart is planning to buy SUSE Linux vouchers from Microsoft in the course of building out its infrastructure. http://news.com.com/Wal-Mart+eyes+Microsoft+for+Web+build-out/2100-1017_3-6… -- My humanity is in feeling we are all voices of the same poverty. - Jorge Louis Borges

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FOSS Applications for Indian schools
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi, Are there any applications that are useful as teaching tools in classrooms of Indian schools? GCompris is quite good but suitable only for very young children (2-10 years). Regards, -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Re:Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hi, What did you ask for? You could have asked others before finalazing > your config. 101 GGC is old technology now so I doubt he will take it > back. Anyway you can always try. Otherwise, it is a good board and uses > ATI Radeon chipsets so graphics is good. In your bois you can share more > RAM for better graphics. You are better off than the older 845 chipsets > and pin processors. Your processor is pinless and board supports SATA > HDDs. Problem was that I had a config from a family friend when we were about to order.At the time,mobo and fatherboard was equivalent to me(ie i knew nothing about h/w).I learnt so much in these short two months coz i found out it was needed to install and use and learn linux proper.At the time,I just added what i felt was needed and subtracted what was not leaving what I didn't know about untouched for eg:i added 512 MB RAM,80 GB HDD in place of their(family friend's) 256MB RAM,40 GB HDD and subtracted LCD monitor and substituted it with plain CRT. So they had 101 board,i never touched it coz i didn't know anything about it.We planned to buy a P4 only but afterwards my friend(the same one who told me there's not much diff b/w C2D and P-D)told me a dual core is better so i subtracted P4 and added C2D.Thereseller got confused b/w C2D and P-D dual core and might have thought that since I want 101 board and dual core,it matches..ie 101 board supports P4,P4 HT and P-D dual core and sold me this....now i realize that i should have changed the mobo to corresponding board too ...but again i knew nothing about h/w... > Mine is 101GGC and since i have absolutely NO experience with Linux,i > would > > like to get a normal distro first and gain some knowledge before > > experimenting.sorry :-( > Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the > live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When > you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your > last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free > space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. > Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a > slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then > let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is > your C: drive. but ubuntu doesn't support 101 as intel's site says: http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature… Regards, Easwar sorry for the long mail.... :-P.Anyways,is it important for a newbie to attend the SELF conference?and the Feb GNU/Linux user's meet?what is it?

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WiKi is down.
by Rony 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hello All, Our list wiki is down since 2 days. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Join the DRM Elimination Crew
by പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi, Should we allow the folks who deliver movies and music to have the key to our devices and let them decide what we should be doing with the devices which we own? So whats all the fuzz is about? This campaign is to educate the public about the effects of DRM and how they will be affected. Join the Indian DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) is a technology that affects all users of computers, media players, mobile phones and other devices. "'Your devices don't trust you!' is the basic message of DRM. In fact they trust you so little that they will not even tell you that they put you under surveillance," says Joachim Jakobs, FSFE's media coordinator. [1] "If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed," says Peter Lee, an executive at Disney. [2] "DRM technologies are based on the principle that a third party has more influence over your devices than you, and that their interests will override yours when they come in conflict. That is even true where your interest is perfectly legitimate and legal, and possibly also for your own data," explains Georg Greve, FSFE's president. [3] [1] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000157.html [2] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000157.html [3] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000157.html Cheers Praveen -- "Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history. `Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." -- Richard Stallman Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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Re: Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

> > Rony wrote: > Hi, firstly could you edit out the OP's (original poster) email address > from your reply. 102 GGC will have a 102 GGC driver cd. Look under the > hood using 'lshw' to check your chipsets. If you don't have the package, > yum it or apt-get it. What does your mobo box say? When did you buy the > mobo? As a rule, I always give all the original packing boxes and CDs to > my clients for all items. I am using Windows XP SP2 presently and have not yet installed Linux.Amtrying to acquire Mandriva 2007 from Mohan or Mehul.I bought the PC hardly 2 months ago.I don't have the mobo box.but i have the Intel Express Installer Driver CD and there's documentation on it full of what features their various mobo's support and how to install and reset CMOS ...... 101 GGC uses DDR RAM. 102 GGC and 965 RYCK use DDR2. that means i cannot use my present RAM if I am not mistaken as to the meaning of what those specifications in the links you gave say. Do you think the reseller will cut me some slack coz it was his mistake? I tried Sabayon on a couple of 102GGC boards. Works perfectly, including the > 5.1 surround sound. I just had to change from 2 speaker mode to 5.1 in > kmix. Mine is 101GGC and since i have absolutely NO experience with Linux,i would like to get a normal distro first and gain some knowledge before experimenting.sorry :-( Regards Easwar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RE:Recommend a linux distro
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

"Laxminarayan G Kamath A" wrote >BOSS from NRCFOSS-CDAC > http://203.129.255.181/wiki/index.php/Main_Page >http://203.129.255.181/wiki/index.php/Screenshots >www.nrcfoss.org.in/boss/ >http://www.google.co.in/search?q=boss+cdac+nrcfoss Does BOSS support D101GGC motherboard since at http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature… only Mandriva 2007 supports OOTB.

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Re: Seek advice to quit Windows
by Debarshi Ray 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

> BTW, I would be happy to share my experience with the list; > I'm in the middle of writing a series of blog articles showing how to > replicate my results; if that would be of interest to people. What is the URI? Thanks, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Re: Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hi friends and tuxers, I dont know how much you understand about the internal workings of the > processor but the Core 2 Duo is radically different from the Pentium > D. Core 2 Duo is based on the Pentium-M architecture while P-D is > based on the old Prescott arch. Prescott inherently had a lot of > heating issue and it had reached its limitations. Pentium-D is also > basically two Prescott cores stuck to each other while Core 2 Duo is > designed to be a dual core processor. > > Mind you, Core 2 Duo will cost you exactly twice of whatever > equivalent P-D will cost you. C2D is gives much more performance per > clock cycle and is about 40% more efficient than the regular Pentium 4 > processor. > > About buying this processor, well, insist that you want to buy a Core > 2 Duo processor which is DIFFERENT from the Dual Core Pentium > processor. Initially my hardware vendor too was confused! :P > > > do get it exchanged core2 duo is really good than pentium d well you as > > per > > my knowledge you will also need to change the mobo for that > > Ya,that's true,but what is the price difference for the board + Core 2 > Duo > v/s pentium D+D101GGC board?I have a friendly reseller coz i contacted him > through a cousin who's a regular customer and bought an entire new PC from > him! >P-D with D101GGC board will cost you 9500-10000INR with 512MB RAM >C2D with DG965RYCK will cost you around 24000INR with 512MB RAM My Intel Express Installer Driver CD shows D101GGC.Is it that D102GGC also > uses the same driver installer CD? >No. 102 has a different installer CD. So,it is the D101GGC board. Can i use my present 512 MB RAM with DG965RYCK or corresponding desktop motherboard in only *essential* series of boards?coz i am no hardcore gamer or anything,i just wnt to ensure my pc doesn't go to the junk heap within a few years. Regards Easwar

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The Linux Brochure
by Rony 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hello All, The beginner's Linux brochure is finally complete and exported from Scribus to pdf format. I would like to know where I can post these files for anyone and everyone to use at their own free will, as well as give feedback on any mistakes. The page format finally selected was 2 A4 pages in landscape format and folded into half to give a total of 8 half size pages, like a booklet. The pages will be bound together at the folds. The A4 size will make it convenient for printing on home colour printers too. The pages are meant to be transparent so I am planning to use coloured paper for final printing as it saves a lot on background printing. The penguin picture in it is hand drawn by looking at a ready picture. The original tux was naked so I gave it a suit and bow tie. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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