On 9/14/06, Dinesh Shah dineshah@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
On 9/14/06, Devdas Bhagat devdas@dvb.homelinux.org wrote:
On 15/09/06 20:14 +0530, Rony wrote:
<snip> > Thats the purpose of this CIS system. It will not help us detect a > person's intentions but it will ensure that no faceless person simply > goes about conning people or walks into a public place, plants a bomb
Dinesh a humble request. Can you or someone summarize the discussion so far ? Points that have been noted , concerns that have been addressed, tasks that have been completetd ?
So that humans like me who find it diffficult to put all the pieces together can also figure out wats happening and try to value add :)
HRB
Those who would give up essential liberty ...
I think there is a great misconception between identity and privacy. Establishing an identity does not necessarily lead to lose of privacy or liberty.
and walks away or will keep changing ids after every crime. Knowledge of a person's id acts as a natural control over behavior.
And there are perfectly good reasons for anonymous speech. Particularly when you want to criticise the government. I see absolutely no reason to trust a government which goes about banning blogs terming them "anti-national".
The anonymous speech can not and will not be stopped. Having an identity does not mean that you can not have an anonymous or free speech.
Citizen Information System sounds like it provides information TO citizens. Instead, it provides information ABOUT citizens. Now, from when do we start wearing the star of david^W^W^Wthe cresent^W^W... ? (I lose here).
The 1st step has to be ABOUT the citizen which can lead to better governance, security and services to TO the citizens.
May I recommend Nineteen Eighty-Four? While you are at it, Brave New World, Farenheit 451, Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, The rise and fall of the Third Reich are also good to read.
I would call it pure paranoia.
Since electricity gives a shock and it can be fatal one must not generate or use electricity. :-)
Same arguments are given for nuclear, genetic and other technologies .
We must remember that technology per say is never evil. It is the technology in the wrong hands which leads to disaster.
And I think you and many have great distrust in our government. But remember that this is the government elected by you and me. :-) (It does not matter whether you vote or not ;-))
Devdas Bhagat
I hope a system developed under FOSS will have sufficient checks and balances for providing freedom of speech and other constitutional rights to the citizens.
With regards,
--Dinesh Shah :-)