On 11/07/06 13:28 +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
Devdas Bhagat wrote:
False. I still can't VoIP to my parents.
Where are your parents ?
Mumbai.
I already talk to US clients from VOIP phones in India. I can call them on their land lines and mobiles They can only call me to the voip phone ofcourse.
VOIP is open, except you are not allowed to connect a VOIP phone to a local telecom network without a license.
Without a telecom license. Not open, by my standards :). See Skype's billing for an example of how VoIP billing will be.
Unless you are a telco. Hence, the VoIP market is not open. If you have seen the Skype call charges, they aren't dependent on distance at all. Only to where you call.
Can you use skype out to call a landline in India ? (Coming to think of it, someone did call me from UK using skype out). Any idea of the charge ?
0.154 USD/minute to a land line, slightly more for a mobile. http://www.skype.com/ has the rates.
I remember having seen skype's linux client. Is anyone here using it ?
**deleted *** 10 years from 1996. The line is open from 2006 end.
Good, so prices for internet access will fall further in 2007.
Why? That would require laying of fresh fibre first. VSNL isn't about to resell for cheaper until they see actual competition.
Though I have heard rumours that Reliance is splitting fibre in the sea and terminating it in Mumbai. The problem isn't that we don't have fat pipes, the problem is that they aren't lit because everyone is in a hurry to make a short term profit.
Internal peering would reduce the need to go to the global network for every little bit. This would bring prices down drastically, and encourage local hosting of content, further reducing prices.
Google: IXP, Metcalfe's law, Reed's law.
IPLC == International Private Leased Circuit. It has nothing to do with voice.
IPLC is used for voice. As you point out, voice is data. But the reason people buy IPLC is to have dedicated voice pipes. All large dedicated call centers (where voice quality needs to be absolutely good) have IPLC. The do not use data pipes or VOIP. (at least commercial VOIP. Some have started using their own dedicated VOIP systems. I dont know the technical difference). Till the market was opened, the only way you could get good quality of voice lines to USA was by buying IPLC from VSNL.
An IPLC is a dedicated circuit. It isn't necessary to use it for voice, or data exclusively. If you talk to BSNL/MTNL for dedicated circuit, they call it a leased line.
Basically, you can provision a 2M (E1 - 2M/2M) line and then set the port speed at both ends to something less. Since this is dedicated exclusively for your use, it it a private leased circuit. If it crosses international boundaries, it becomes an IPLC.
Any place where voice quality is essential will use dedicated circuits. As would any place which needs highly reliable data throughput from point to point.
Commercial VoIP is sold to end users without giving them access to the exchange, dedicated would just mean that they run their own VoIP PBXes.
If you want to run a dedicated VoIP system, just setup Asterisk.
Devdas Bhagat