On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:18 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
So it is HCL not AMD. ALWAYS if you want good service get a small vendor. The big guys are full of hype n hotair and outsource everything to the small guys minus the profit. All the money you pay is just to cover jazzy ads about cows and bulls on BBC. And if you are wise get the mobos and build the boxes your self.
Right blame HCL for the lack of drivers. The driver issue we face is simply because the open source drivers dont work well and the proprietary NVidia ( now merged with AMD ) work like _ _ _ _.
lspci -v ?
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5000 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 99 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=68 I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff Memory behind bridge: fde00000-fdffffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000d8000000-00000000dfffffff Capabilities: [44] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [b0] Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)
00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device b002 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 22 I/O ports at ff00 [size=8] I/O ports at fe00 [size=4] I/O ports at fd00 [size=8] I/O ports at fc00 [size=4] I/O ports at fb00 [size=16] Memory at fe02f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5004 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 Memory at fe02e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5004 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 Memory at fe02d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5004 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18 Memory at fe02c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5004 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 Memory at fe02b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5004 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18 Memory at fe02a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5004 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19 Memory at fe029000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [e4] Debug port
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 4385 Flags: 66MHz, medium devsel I/O ports at 0b00 [size=16] Capabilities: [b0] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5002 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] I/O ports at f900 [size=16]
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device a002 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 5001 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64 I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff Memory behind bridge: fdd00000-fddfffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fdc00000-fdcfffff
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: [80] HyperTransport: Host or Secondary Interface
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map Flags: fast devsel
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller Flags: fast devsel
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: [f0] #0f [0010]
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device d000 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18 Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at fdff0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] I/O ports at ee00 [size=256] Memory at fde00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable-
02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8110SC/8169SC Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device e000 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 23 I/O ports at de00 [size=256] Memory at fddff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fdc00000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
AMD is any day a better bet as far as drivers go. They have opened the specs to the cpu, chipset and the 3d graphics engine as well. Only a matter of time before you have full 3d support on all AMD chipsets.
lets see.
Compare the performance specs. Intel SUCKS in the same price band. And the ad thingy holds for Intel too.
Not at all. Compare the prices of Core2Duo CPUs and motherboards with AMD. They are competitive.