On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Amit Upadhyay wrote:
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On Saturday 26 Jul 2003 10:17 pm, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Satya wrote:
On Jul 25, 2003 at 23:04, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
But lilo is said to be soon deprecated.
Cite?
Release notes of RH8 and RH9
Should you not refrain from spreading misinformation, and say the complete thing, which is: it is deprecated for Redhat only.
Ok, maybe mea culpa but I *had* mentioned that RH 9 was my primary OS :) So this is *not* misinformation. The fact that *you* did not know about it does not make it so.
Redhat is one thing I truely hate in linux world **.
Oh my god a religious fanatic, wow !! My dear chap, linux is *all about choice* you are free to hate redhat, no skin off my nose. I happen to use it and find it quite sufficient for my modest needs. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Anyways, if you are sincere, and are trying to help a person switch to linux, make sure they don't use grub as bootloader.
so the fact that I use grub makes me insincere ? you are almost on the verge of sermonising - tut tut. And I never said I was trying to get anyone to switch :-)
They will experiment [if they wont it doesnt matter wether its a lilo or grub] and may misconfigure their grub.conf and render their system non-bootable. I have never seen anybody supplying wierd option at bootime, but have seen almost anyone using linux modifying their lilo/grub to add windows entries for example. Therefore dummy proofing configuration is much more important than the slight differance at boot time.
This is just another of those cockamamie arguments of user friendliness vs geek power. Get a life boss. I want my os to work out of the box with as few tweaks as can be required. I am not into masochism and like to get on with my actual work of being a doctor. I'd rather read up for six hours on the complications of a septic gallbladder or the natural history of alzheimer's disease than spend it on some inane intricacy in my linux box *if it is not in the way of my normal routine work*.
And there's *nothing* wrong in experimentation and if you fall flat on your face, well you just have to get up, brush off the dirt and start again.
Why do you think one should use grub and not lilo?
why should *I* not use grub ?? I'm not asking you to change your bootloader, why do you expect me to change mine ? Like I said, it's a matter of choice.
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** Quoting current recommendations to people installing Redhat, as on, iitb.computers [a news group], which can be safely taken as the majority openion here[IITB]: "Make sure you dont install/unselect KDE when installing redhat from CDs and get the RPMs from so and so place after installation" I wonder what would a poor soul without access to IITB LAN do!
You know I fail to see the relevance of the above. Is it to point out that you are a member of the hallowed precincts of iitb ? in case someone just happened not to notice your email address ? or the six line signature at the end of your mail ? and there needs to be a '+' sign prefixed to the 91 of a cellular phone :)
I downloaded KDE 3 on a dial up link because *I wanted it*. This was sometime between the release of RH 7.2 and 7.3.
Appeal: One may live with Redhat, its linux after all, you can make it work the way you want, but for a new user, one should advice the best available distro. Mandrake is highest rated, while Redhat is the most hated one, be sincere when you pick.
I am *very* happy with redhat. I use it for word processing, email, web browsing, and a few other things. I had to patch ghostcript to get it to work w/ the latest hpijs to be able to use my new HP usb printer and I had to copile the beta of gphoto to be able to use my digital camera. I'd say I am quite happy w/ redhat.
Just because you couldn't get redhat to run does not mean you have to hate it. Stop being so opinionated. Keep your recommemdations of distros for someone who asks for it. Quit tilting at windmills Senor; remember what happened to Don Quixote :)
When you can hold forth on CAT scans and ECGs with the same aplomb that I can manage with a computer, we'll take this discussion to another level. Welcome to the Real World.
And don't take any of this personnally :-) ^^^ <-- smiley alert !!
-- Amit Upadhyay Senior Undergraduate Student Department of Mechanical Engg. Indian Institute of Technology Bombay Mumbai-76, India Phone: (91) 9820325940
Sharukh