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On Wednesday 04 Jun 2003 12:49 am, linuxdev wrote:
surprise ! kde is nice stable and quite complete on redhat 9.0. What is the statement "kde rpms are privately created" supposed to mean ?! They are available with the official distribution.
GPL is such dear. No matter who makes them, any one can distribute GPL things as long as they abide by it.
And remote networking, ssh capabilities of a file manager is not exactly a regular guy's dream. I don't envision any normal user going ga-ga over remote editing in a file dialog box given that 80% of the users would save
You can shoot down nearly everything similerly. Point is KDE has ioslave, kparts, dcop, configurable toolbar/actions, and a lot of small but significant goodies in kdelibs. Gnome has very little to match them. [bonobo is there, but kparts is far superior].
on an internet bill. And regarding your lament of a relatively featureless gnome open file dialog box, its going to be true only till 2.3 after the development plan is shifting aggresively to adding features to widgets. For 2.4 they are specifically addressing the needs of a more powerful dialog box.
Have you asked why do they have to wait that long for a dialog that simple? Trust me file chooser is a first year programming project, but at the same time most used dialog. C and callback mechanism of event handling in UI is a stumbling block, and in absence of OO, things quickly become bad.
And frankly if kde developers hate me for using redhat i don't give a damn. Hey rh is times better for any serious developing work/ enterprise env.
So you mean you dont care if some corporate biggies comes and exploits GPL, plays hostile and demeans OSS projects? AS a glug member I was expecting something else from you. Ignorance is not bliss. [I should start preparing my position paper in case RH decided to sue me ;)]
And for developers. well i do care about free RAM. coz compiling needs plenty of it. thats top priority for me :D besides watching divx movies and file sharing and editing web pages. Ever faced disk thrashing ?
IceWM! IceWM! Its the coolest one.
And of good reasons of gtk over qt ? m'be you could ask the developers of evolution, gaim, mldonkey, mplayer gui, xmms, gnucash. and many more
Evolution is Ximian, they cant do otherwise. Using GTK is the biggest mistake done by gaim[ I am saying this coz, despite all their afforts they have not been able to truely separate core from GUI]. Mplayer doesnt care what mplayer gui uses [besides, everything else in mplayer is in C so it was logical to go for a C gui tool kit]. XMMS is legacy, Suns decision, and a period of time when GTK was considered more GPL than Qt has something to do with such decisions. Read GTK docs and Qt docs, and you will know how much GTK sucks. [Every time I mention GTK I mean C library used for GUI, which is to be compared with QT/kdelibs which is CPP; Gnome is a counterpart of KDE]
At what level is the question. I don't expect most users to go patch my software to get it looking the way they want it to. gtk tries to keep the
[That was in the context of developers not users].
pain to minimum. I don't expect to go on a tweaking trip as soon as i install a desktop. I would like the options sensible enough. Gnome does that. KDE might, i'll leave that question.
That is the question, dont leave it. KDE does it as well. In one of the previos mails I listed all Mandrake asked since installation, and I havent changed much besides moving kicker to where I want. All fonts, all everything else. Please justify your claim in Gnome doing any better than KDE.
I may give the newer mandrake a whirl as soon as i get hold of a set. (can you help me there?)
My recommended option has been FTP install, but you may not access to a filthy Net connection as I have ;) I got Mandrake 9.1 CDs too, and would be willing to share with you, if Sameer lets us, next meeting would be in IITB, and IF my DDP lets me, I am planning to attend it.
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