On Tuesday 04 January 2005 00:46, Rony Bill wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 12:00, sherlock@vsnl.com wrote:
In short M$ is widely used not because it's easy but because of a whole history of piracy and illegal practices. And they did not make the pc popular. It was the low cost Taiwanese manufacturer who provided a platform for software like dos, wordstar, wordperfect, lotus123, gemplus, dbase, Turbo pascal, etc. And they existed BEFORE msdos and windows3.0.
They have existed but it is windows that became a household name.
Did u bother to read that link. If not here it is once again. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20041228040645419 Read it before u try to enter a debate.
Go to the various homes and small offices and ask them what is windows and ask them the list of the above mentioned software. How windows became popular, by begging, borrowing or stealing is besides the point.
That is the point. And the key argument on wether M$ became popular due to ease of use, innovative technology or plain old theving and skullduggery.
I had faced a panic situation when I wiped out a client's partition table in order to simply remove a partition virus. His tally, mail and docs were in it. Luckily I recovered the files and saved my ass and even got paid for it. I am not claiming that windows is the best, I am only saying its the simplest to learn and get familiar with. Give newbies linux to install, configure and use and do the same experiment with windows.
Newbies are not supposed to install and configure YOU are supposed to install and configure the system as per his requirements.
Thats the whole issue Mr. Holmes.
By the way my name is Jude Terrence D'souza (Terrence to most)
I don't need a REAL education in computers and software to learn windows. Its simple to pick up and easy to get around. I never went to any class to learn windows.
That is why I said u need to educate yourself about computers and oses Windows is not an OS it is honey pot for worms and viruses. I would not ask my worst enemy to "educate" himself in windows.
Egos and high pedestals will get us nowhere.
But lack of knowledge and refusal to learn will get u somewhere - to the bottom of a very deep hole.
Programmers are very intelligent and smart and should be worshipped as Gods. Like the one for Amitabh Bachan, we can even build temples dedicated to them. But we should not forget that the most endearing and popular actors are those that became one with the masses, who felt the pulse of the masses and gave the masses what they wanted.
More nonsense. U place the real facts as they are. The masses will make a choice as opposed to hiding things and publishing ads on tv in Hindi about security of -oh-so-wormerful windows.Piracy has got nothing to do with civil disobdience. Since u are so woefully misinformed here is the difference. Piracy is when u take something which does not belong to you AND is explicitly prohibited by law AND u have an alternative for whatever it is u were pirating AND u hide the fact. Civil disobdience is protesting some law which takes away your right as given to you under the constitution AND u do so in the open AND u make it a point to inform the authorities about your protest. Now as a champion of piracy let's see u pirate a copy of windows at Churchgate (or Azad Maidan asumming u could get your other friendly pirates in sufficient numbers to participate), preceeded by a press release and letter to NASSCOM, M$, Cybercafe owners assoc., etc. That would qualify you in a few yrs time to be put on a pedestal.
It also shows that u are all ready to greedily take what the FOSS community and programmer offers without wanting to acknowledge their contributions or making the slightest effort to learn and overcome your limited and incomplete understanding of computers, oses, and the history and politics behind the current state of affairs in the computing industry. I have only pity for the likes of u. When I started using FOSS I too was (almost) in the same boat as u but I took the effort and time to get my facts in place before offering opinions based on wrong information.
rgds jtd