Sharninder wrote:
Please stop making a fool of yourself on a public mailing list.
Kartik can't stop portraying the way he is... :)
Dinesh: Lenny may have slightly older packages than other distributions, but I definitely think it is the most stable Linux distribution available right now (YMMV !).
Are you starting the "My distro is better than your distro war?" coz its not gonna happen. I love Debian but my stance is the same, its NOT the BEST CHOICE FOR THE OP. That is ALL that I am saying. Is that too difficult to understand?
Stability is RELATIVE. I tried Sarge a LONG time ago and IT SUCKED! Why? Simply because it didn't support my hardware. You cannot call such a distribution STABLE on my hardware, can you?
Also, stability includes a feature called as GRACEFUL FAILURE. Do you zealots understand what it means? Sarge's kernel was constantly panicking. har har... So much for "stability". FreeBSD kicks its arse when it comes to "stability".
So repeat after me... *STABILITY IS A RELATIVE TERM AND I WONT ABUSE IT*
If you really want to compare Debian to Ubuntu, then you should be using making the comparison with Experimental, not even Sid. And btw, if you think Experimental is, well, experiemental, try using Ubuntu or Fedora's development branches.
I AM NOT COMPARING Debian and Ubuntu. They're meant for different purposes. Ubuntu has NEWER packages. It has recent drivers and a more recent kernel. BTW Bluetooth is broken in Lenny and Sid and it works with Ubuntu. Thats just one of the SEVERAL differences between the two distributions.
*THEY ARE MEANT FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES*
Are you saying that Debian and Ubuntu are meant for the same purpose? Are you saying Debian Sid is as user friendly as Ubuntu 8.10+ and is meant specifically for desktop users who have the latest and greatest hardware?
I use Debian sid for all my work and couldn't have been happier. I'm a former Redhat->Fedora->Debian->Ubuntu guy and am back to Debian now for the simple reason that it works.
Great for you. I am a Redhat, Fedora, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu USER. Notice the commas and not arrows.
I'd much rather ask newbies to use a distribution that works, rather than ask them to use the latest bleeding version of a distribution that breaks with the next software upgrade.
Exactly MY POINT.
There are higher chances for Ubuntu to work out of the box for a newbie because it includes a lot of nice drivers and scripts that vanilla debian lacks. Specifically the restricted driver manager is something that debian doesn't have and also firmware for most wifi cards is included in Ubuntu.
I'm trying to keep an objective outlook here. But it seems that I've stepped on some toes by suggesting some other distro!
Kartik: Man ! You know better than to get dragged into a flamebait !
Dragged? He started it!
- Dinesh