On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 2:44 PM, in message
200708301444.43214.jtd@sparc.net, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Thursday 30 August 2007 13:43, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
The thing is, people other than you also have likes, dislikes, opinions, points of view etc.
We are talking of technical, commercial and legal aspects - all of which are grounded in fact and logic - not the color of somebody's undepants
For example, I don't know about anyone else, but I dislike the way you state your opinions. Now that's just my opinion.
Are we OT already?
the digressed discusion was about licences and alleged fud But your abv sentence is definetly ot. Note that we still dont have any reply to our grouse about Novell's licence - Rahulkrishna Gupta has a novell.com email so i presume that he is a Novell employee. Searching google i find his posts from 2001 so i presume he is quite thoroughly aware of the poltics of freesoftware. So his statement about me spreadind fud is ????. It happens all the time all over the world, make a statement about Novell licence and someone will spring at you with inuendo. But never in all these months a simple statement of fact. These are the packages that are restricted and these are the packages that are libre. such a statement would make the Microvell deal a simple business decision not the subterfuge that it seems to us on the outside - designed to con the innocent and misappropriate from the commons.
I am not here to make any political statements. All I asked in my post was reasons for making statements like "avoid like plague", reasons which were not mentioned. And hence it was akin to spreading FUD.
Here's the definition from wikipedia
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a sales or marketing strategy of disseminating negative (and vague) information on a competitor's product. The term originated to describe disinformation tactics in the computer hardware industry and has since been used more broadly. FUD is a manifestation of the "appeal to fear."
I believe you were doing just that in the absence of any concrete reasons/facts to back your statement.
Yes I work with Novell and I am not hiding it. But it was not in good taste to look up my history or antecedents, things which had nothing to do with my query.
Innuendo = disparaging remarks. I don't think I made any. All I did was request you to provide the basis for your statements.
Regarding your statement of information not being made available, a little effort on your part would have lead you to http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/
A lot of information on the agreement is available on this site.
If you are still not convinced, please go ahead and form your opinion. To use or not to use SUSE is your choice. But please refrain from making the kind of statements you did without fact and logic.
I believe one of the objective of this list is to engage in constructive discussions on Linux and Open Source. I am all for it. But if you want to get into a slanging match of us vs Novell, then I am not interested and will desist from posting any further comments on this topic.
Regards, Rahul