I will just like to make 3 points here about the discussion and the m$ fan club. firstly again I am repeating for the 3rd time, I don't know about others but I am not against any organisation nor do I have personal grudge against any one. secondly, let the notion be cleared about gnu/linux itself. it is not just a time pass "fun " operating system as some gentelman like to say. it may as well go on ur grand mothers pc and on the most sensetive server as well. it is not a bunch of hackares doing fun with you. it is very serious professional powerful and free (as in speech) operating system. and canonical, redhat, IBM all are not bunch of hackers I suppose. if not then dare to state openly on this thread that yahoo, google, nasa, LIC all use toys to runn their business. and yes, BARC TIFR all just use a time pass operating system written for fun. and all big enterprises including Indofil chemical company pvt ltd, supreme plastic etc.using non m$ technologies all do time pass. thirdly, although my answers sounded typically standard for dinesh, it is yet a reality. as devdas rightly said. m$ also has a tipicle way of cheeting "we now don't support window 9X." and "please upgrade your system because we are thinking of removing the support". is it not real? think about open office, you can even open an ms word 95 document with that. Krishnakant