On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:33:17 +0530, Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com said:
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 17:38 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:40:12 +0530, Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@XXXXXX.com said:
Stop spamming me! Why are you spamming??? :O
Do you really think I'm justified in saying that you're spamming me? No. I'm not. Same way, I wasn't attacking your favorite distro.
Ubuntu is not my favourite distro. I have never, to my knowledge, actually used it; but the inaccuracies in your statements were glaring enough that I felt I must comment.
I was as polite as possible. Take your accusation a notch down alright? We live in a civilized society and I'm not interested in having flame wars here.
Then try and not spread lies about what Ubuntu does and does not come with.
You would find more people inclined to follow your suggestions if you did not attack other free software in order to promote your favourites.
Attack? Sheesh...firstly, to disillusion you Ubuntu is full of non-free software / proprietary software.
Full of? Are you not descending into hyperbole here? Ubuntu main is free software; ubuntu restricted does contain non-free drivers and some fonts, but, in general, the distribution is seen as free software.
I wasn't promoting anything. I suggested Fedora as it comes with all possible software that you need. Debian goes one step further. It has an amazing collection of softwares in its DVD.
And thus into Ubuntu Universe.
Maybe you have large portions of bandwidth to download all possible packages. But I, like the OP, have limited share of bandwidth so its not always possible for us to install softwares from online repos. Fedora / Debian / Mandriva come with CDs / DVDs which have all the softwares so one doesn't need to download from the internet. Its quicker and easier.
While this is true, this is irrelevant to the original question: Ubuntu main comes with the development packages that the OP was asking for.
Nice red herring, though.
Dont mean to displease any Ubuntu users.
Then do not spread lies. At least to the bare minimum of research before spreading FUD; you might retain some respect from people that way.
FUD...?
AFAIK, Ubuntu doesnt come with dev packages.
It comes with mostly the same dev packages, as far as C/C++ are concerned, that Debian does.
Did I say Ubuntu DOESNT HAVE dev packages? IIRC, its not included on the CD.
Wrong again. A simple google search shows, on the very first page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/
Look down the page. Ubuntu comes with a decent tool chain, though for alternates and older versions of compilers etc you do have to go to the universe.
Debian standard also does not come with gcc either. It is, again, an optional package.
Dev packages go beyond just C/C++ compilers.
And what relevance does this have to the issue at hand? Look at the package list. There are a number of -deve packages that are in Ubuntu main.
Enough with the FUD, man.
If you are trying to promote some free software (fedora, in your case), try not to attack other free software. If you do attack other free software, at least try to be correct.
Next time look up the definition of words that you dont understand.
Heh. This is funny.
We're all working towards a common goal over here. We're all for FOSS. Why the heck do we need to divide ourselves on the basis of distros?
So don't go about spreading FUD about what Ubuntu does not do (geared only towards n00bs, forsooth). With friends like you, who needs enemies?
manoj