hi junta i tried to install a network printer HP deskjet 3940 connected to a windows machine and shared.but i could not find driver for the printer in fc4. I tried HP site also but it provides drive for MAC/WINDOWS only not for linux. THen i tried to install HPLIP as mentioned below. But in vein. still i am unable to get adrive for it. Can anyone throw light on it. when i tried to detect printer using command hp-makeuri 10.1.1.111 http://10.1.1.111 it reported [ERROR]: Failed (error code=12). Please check address of device and try again.
when i tried to detect printer using nautilus it detects printer properly but b'z the drive is not there i could not print. i can ping the printer machine as well. http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html#Building http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#download_install
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On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:18, nilesh birari wrote:
hi junta i tried to install a network printer HP deskjet 3940 connected to a windows machine and shared.but i could not find driver for the printer in fc4. I tried HP site also but it provides drive for MAC/WINDOWS only not for linux. THen i tried to install HPLIP as mentioned below. But in vein. still i am unable to get adrive for it. Can anyone throw light on it. when i tried to detect printer using command hp-makeuri 10.1.1.111 http://10.1.1.111 it reported [ERROR]: Failed (error code=12). Please check address of device and try again.
when i tried to detect printer using nautilus it detects printer properly but b'z the drive is not there i could not print. i can ping the printer machine as well. http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html#Building http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#download_install
I dont want to hijack this thread but I purchased a Samsung ML-1520P and I am IMPRESSED with the amount of Linux support they have incorporated! They have actually put in a GUI installer like they have in Windoze and it works smoothly... Only problem is that it breaks system-config-print-gui. Dunno why but I am not using their driver but rather 1510 driver...
Bottom line: HP sucks at Linux support. Samsung's not the best but they have made an excellent attempt at bringing ease to the world of Linux :D
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 6:06 pm, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Bottom line: HP sucks at Linux support.
cheaper HP machines are not meant to be linux compatible
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 07:34, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
cheaper HP machines are not meant to be linux compatible
What makes the more expensive machines Linux compatible? Just because they are used by corporates?! >.> If Samsung can why can't HP? They are the so called "leaders" in this field... or is there too much M$ pressure to make the machines Linux unfriendly? =P
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 6:49 pm, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
cheaper HP machines are not meant to be linux compatible
What makes the more expensive machines Linux compatible? Just because they are used by corporates?! >.> If Samsung can why can't HP? They are the so called "leaders" in this field... or is there too much M$ pressure to make the machines Linux unfriendly? =P
nope, cheaper machines, like winmodems, have proprietory non-standard bits of software to replace hardware so that they can make them cheaper. this software is usually one-off stuff - not worth the effort to make linux drivers for them (if it is possible at all). This goes for lowest-end scanners and printers.
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 08:05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
nope, cheaper machines, like winmodems, have proprietory non-standard bits of software to replace hardware so that they can make them cheaper. this software is usually one-off stuff - not worth the effort to make linux drivers for them (if it is possible at all). This goes for lowest-end scanners and printers.
True, but my question still remains unanswered. Why Samsung and not HP? HP is supposed to be a role model as it is an industry leader...
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2005 7:49 pm, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
nope, cheaper machines, like winmodems, have proprietory non-standard bits of software to replace hardware so that they can make them cheaper. this software is usually one-off stuff - not worth the effort to make linux drivers for them (if it is possible at all). This goes for lowest-end scanners and printers.
True, but my question still remains unanswered. Why Samsung and not HP? HP is supposed to be a role model as it is an industry leader...
maybe samsung doesnt make el cheapo thingies
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
nope, cheaper machines, like winmodems, have proprietory non-standard bits of software to replace hardware so that they can make them cheaper. this software is usually one-off stuff - not worth the effort to make linux drivers for them (if it is possible at all). This goes for lowest-end scanners and printers.
The problem in question was related to a shared printer. So is there any way a network printer on a windows machine can be issued print commands without a driver? What is the difference between a network printer and a print server?
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On 10/26/05, Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 08:05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: True, but my question still remains unanswered. Why Samsung and not HP? HP is supposed to be a role model as it is an industry leader...
An industry leader might not be #1 just because they are better or innovate more. It might be that they are able to keep margins high (in other words they might be better at sucking money out of people/corporates) with ordinary products. Samsung needs every costumer they can get so they might go that extra mile of providing linux drivers/compatability. The same might not be true for HP which is sitting like a mother hens on the eggs waiting for them to hatch.
BTW just look around at the companies which are market leaders in their own segments. If they are role models then we (the computer industry) are doomed.
ps : <disclaimer> I don't work for either of these companies and am also not associated with either in any ways. This is just a cynical opinion seen from how companies operate. Feel free to draw your own conclusions. :-) </disclaimer>
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On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:45, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
An industry leader might not be #1 just because they are better or innovate more. It might be that they are able to keep margins high (in other words they might be better at sucking money out of people/corporates) with ordinary products. Samsung needs every costumer they can get so they might go that extra mile of providing linux drivers/compatability. The same might not be true for HP which is sitting like a mother hens on the eggs waiting for them to hatch.
BTW just look around at the companies which are market leaders in their own segments. If they are role models then we (the computer industry) are doomed.
hehe. thats very true :)
this thread appears to be diverting from my main problem. has anyone checked links http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html#Building http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#download_install
which promise to provide solution but its is not happening with my case. So if possible kindly helpme out.
regards Nilesh
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