Hello All,
At the Five Gardens BoF, I had mentioned about companies using Linux as a status symbol, thus helping in the spread of Linux.
Suppose every company that completely uses Linux announces in its ad "We are proud to announce that our organization is completely running on Linux" Then the ad says, "Why Linux" it goes on "Because linux has proved to be very secure and stable and is immune to ...blah blah"
Another case. I don't know if there is anything like an IT insurance but if such a thing comes up, Linux enabled companies would have to pay lesser premium as their systems are anyway more secure. Those who use less secure ;) systems pay more premium as they carry a higher risk.
If you can think of more such ideas please post them. This will bring about a positive effect on how Linux is viewed, like a high standard, difficult to achieve but something that carries a lot of weight and gains.
Is there any independent IT or systems security certification that companies can adopt? If it doesn't exist, can some organizations in India start it? I am sure Linux will stand first in every security test. 'Other' insecure systems can be given the low grade.
Regards,
Rony.
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add one more point to it. status should not be associated with challenge of use as has been done by most m$ fans and unfortunately some arrogant gnu/linux users. when you say "I can use linux even though it is so hard to use and bla bla bla", you earn high status of being a computer expert. but gnu/linux looses in the end. we can also add the status reasoning to "royal way of working on linux" for windows you only have one desktop. and dos as a command line os is very poor. this is because when windows came as a gui extention to dos, it did not stay only that. while dos had very poor functionality of single user and single process os, it also never had networking built in. but windows not just became a gui to dos, but all the high end productivity functionality came tightly coupled with windows gui and never penitrated to core dos. as a result, a mith was born that "command line is a poor country and gui means power and ease ". but as gnu os comes from the unix background, gui just remains one way of doing the tasks. but even at the shell the tasks and the way to do them is equally easy and powerful. so this is another reason for linux being status symbole. and don't forget gnone, kde etc. (no flame wars plz). Krishnakant.
Sometime on Oct 7, Rony assembled some asciibets to say:
Suppose every company that completely uses Linux announces in its ad "We are proud to announce that our organization is completely running on Linux" Then the ad says, "Why Linux" it goes on "Because linux has
who will pay for this ad and what RoI should they expect?
Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime on Oct 7, Rony assembled some asciibets to say:
Suppose every company that completely uses Linux announces in its ad "We are proud to announce that our organization is completely running on Linux" Then the ad says, "Why Linux" it goes on "Because linux has
who will pay for this ad and what RoI should they expect?
The line is pasted in their existing ads. Banks and other high security environment companies who are already posting ads will generate tremendous goodwill and will also open peoples' eyes to linux as a secure OS. "If banks use it for secure computing then maybe we should shift to linux too. These viruses and trojans are such a nuisance". "What is this linux".
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Rony.
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On Sunday 08 October 2006 07:26, Rony wrote:
The line is pasted in their existing ads. Banks and other high security environment companies who are already posting ads will generate tremendous goodwill and will also open peoples' eyes to linux as a secure OS. "If banks use it for secure computing then maybe we should shift to linux too. These viruses and trojans are such a nuisance". "What is this linux".
Agreed. Already students in colleges are realizing it. I mean practically all computers running XP at our college are infested with viruses and the sys admins have tough time keeping up with the reinstalls. Many have asked me for Linux CDs just because they are tired of the worms and viruses and it really hinders with their productivity.
This isn't the case with my college, but almost all colleges atleast in MU.
P.S.: We have pathetic, incompetent sys admins so its not a big surprise that the PCs get infected.
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
This isn't the case with my college, but almost all colleges atleast in MU.
P.S.: We have pathetic, incompetent sys admins so its not a big surprise that the PCs get infected.
Just curious to know, do the colleges use the WGA programme and keep their college pcs up to date with the latest critical updates?
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Rony.
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Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Sunday 08 October 2006 18:48, Rony wrote:
Just curious to know, do the colleges use the WGA programme and keep their college pcs up to date with the latest critical updates?
Hahaha...you're joking right?
Now you know why the systems develop so many problems. ;)
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Rony.
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Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Sunday 08 October 2006 15:13, Rony wrote:
Hahaha...you're joking right?
Now you know why the systems develop so many problems. ;)
Windoze doesnt require much to develop problems. Incompetent users, admins complicate it further :P
Ya but what surprises me is the laziness or indifference of users to download critical updates even when some of them are entitled to do so. And colleges should never use any OS in admin mode. The service providers should know that.
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On Tuesday 10 October 2006 15:53, Rony wrote:
Ya but what surprises me is the laziness or indifference of users to download critical updates even when some of them are entitled to do so. And colleges should never use any OS in admin mode. The service providers should know that.
Its a pain to use Winblows in the regular user mode. Just the other day I had to install J2RE 1.5 on one of the systems and I wasn't aware that the account was a regular user account. The installation didn't proceed at all. AFAIK on Linux this wouldnt be a problem :)
On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:26, Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime on Oct 7, Rony assembled some asciibets to say:
Suppose every company that completely uses Linux announces in its ad "We are proud to announce that our organization is completely running on Linux" Then the ad says, "Why Linux" it goes on "Because linux has
who will pay for this ad and what RoI should they expect?
All interested parties - major distros, GNU / linux SP, software vendors. ROI would be linux brand building.
But i am quite sure most of the above are doing quite well without the need for mass media advertising. Their marketing guys meet all the right folks to pitch their wares. So only small fry selling to other small fry would need this form of publicity.
Sometime on Saturday 07 October 2006 23:34, Rony said:
Suppose every company that completely uses Linux announces in its ad "We are proud to announce that our organization is completely running on Linux" Then the ad says, "Why Linux" it goes on "Because linux has proved to be very secure and stable and is immune to ...blah blah"
I dont think non-IT companies would be interested at all in placing such advertisements. Many of these companies use separate service providers for installing/maintaining their mail/proxy/foobar servers.
Another case. I don't know if there is anything like an IT insurance but if such a thing comes up, Linux enabled companies would have to pay lesser premium as their systems are anyway more secure. Those who use less secure ;) systems pay more premium as they carry a higher risk.
This too wouldnt be feasible IMO. Its too easy to (deliberately) mess up with any kind of software and put a false claim of insurance refund.
Is there any independent IT or systems security certification that companies can adopt? If it doesn't exist, can some organizations in India start it? I am sure Linux will stand first in every security test. 'Other' insecure systems can be given the low grade.
There are several security systems providers in mumbai alone. I was contacted by one such company a month back. But their marketting dude had no clue what shorewall/iptables was.
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