Hello,
Since quite some time, the Railways has introduced smart cards that can be used on touch screen kiosks to book tickets with varying choices like destination, single/return, number of adults/children and class of travel. The card costs only Rs.100/- and you get a free initial usage of Rs. 50/-. It is a pure cash card with no ID or papers required and is purchased across the counter. To recharge it, simply pay amounts like 50/-, 100/- upto 500/- and you get it recharged across the counter.
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned counters. For example bill payments for MTNL, BEST. The Post Office is another department that would benefit very much from this. Multiple PO kiosks inside the PO could offer services like stamps, money-order as well as registered letters. Just like the current manned counters, you simply enter the sender and destination address and 2 identical sticker labels with bar codes will pop out. One is to be pasted on the letter and the other is the sender's copy. A smart plate on top of the machine can be the weighing scale for determining the postage as per the weight of the letter/parcel. The letter/parcel is then dropped inside a designated box. An extra feature would be to optically scan the movement of the letter inward as proof of dropping. This kiosk can also be placed in banks and enterprising shops who can be given....say 5% of all earnings through that kiosk. so now the Post Office is not far away but right near your home and the Postal Dept. does not have to invest in land or office manpower to extend its reach. The same technology can be used by courier companies too. MTNL's telephone exchanges too can use these kiosks for bill payments and adding/removing extra services to their subscription like changing plans, enabling CLIP. The kiosks can be linked with wireless networking so that it is immune to cable problems. So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Since quite some time, the Railways has introduced smart cards that can be used on touch screen kiosks to book tickets with varying choices like destination, single/return, number of adults/children and class of travel. The card costs only Rs.100/- and you get a free initial usage of Rs. 50/-. It is a pure cash card with no ID or papers required and is purchased across the counter. To recharge it, simply pay amounts like 50/-, 100/- upto 500/- and you get it recharged across the counter.
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned counters. For example bill payments for MTNL, BEST. The Post Office is another department that would benefit very much from this. Multiple PO kiosks inside the PO could offer services like stamps, money-order as well as registered letters. Just like the current manned counters, you simply enter the sender and destination address and 2 identical sticker labels with bar codes will pop out. One is to be pasted on the letter and the other is the sender's copy. A smart plate on top of the machine can be the weighing scale for determining the postage as per the weight of the letter/parcel. The letter/parcel is then dropped inside a designated box. An extra feature would be to optically scan the movement of the letter inward as proof of dropping. This kiosk can also be placed in banks and enterprising shops who can be given....say 5% of all earnings through that kiosk. so now the Post Office is not far away but right near your home and the Postal Dept. does not have to invest in land or office manpower to extend its reach. The same technology can be used by courier companies too. MTNL's telephone exchanges too can use these kiosks for bill payments and adding/removing extra services to their subscription like changing plans, enabling CLIP. The kiosks can be linked with wireless networking so that it is immune to cable problems. So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
+1 to all the above.IIRC,this link was posted in relation to this earlier:
http://www.linux.com/feature/132871
Easwar Hariharan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Since quite some time, the Railways has introduced smart cards that can be used on touch screen kiosks to book tickets with varying choices like destination, single/return, number of adults/children and class of travel. The card costs only Rs.100/- and you get a free initial usage of Rs. 50/-. It is a pure cash card with no ID or papers required and is purchased across the counter. To recharge it, simply pay amounts like 50/-, 100/- upto 500/- and you get it recharged across the counter
[snip]
+1 to all the above.IIRC,this link was posted in relation to this earlier:
Go Mumbai kiosks don't seem to have the flexibility of the touch screen kiosks used exclusively for the Railways. Go M appears to be just an entry/exit validation, whereas the touch screen is multi-lingual, multi-option and software can be created to show a virtual keyboard for entering text. It eliminates dust and misuse problems associated with regular keyboards. Even the card placement is protected by a glass so one has to simply place the card there, no swiping required.
2008/6/18 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com:
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned
[snip]
So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
Dear Rony, I fail to understand why this mail belongs here. I believe there are better forums where ideas on technology implementation in India can be discussed. I know of India-GII list where discussions on technology can actually be fruitful.
thanks for understanding, Anurag
On 2008/6/18 Rony wrote:
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned [snip] So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
Even Sulabh Public Loo can use this kiosk idea. What do you say?
Kartik Mistry wrote:
On 2008/6/18 Rony wrote:
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned [snip] So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
Even Sulabh Public Loo can use this kiosk idea. What do you say?
You want to piddle on the ticket vending machine?
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Kartik Mistry wrote:
On 2008/6/18 Rony wrote:
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned [snip] So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
Even Sulabh Public Loo can use this kiosk idea. What do you say?
You want to piddle on the ticket vending machine?
How does this help? Skipping the line to pay makes more important line longer.
Anyway, I am ROTFLMAO :D
Regards, Mohan S N
Anurag wrote:
2008/6/18 Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com:
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations where there are long queues on manned
[snip]
So any office that experiences long queues for payments can take advantage of this technology.
Dear Rony, I fail to understand why this mail belongs here. I believe there are better forums where ideas on technology implementation in India can be discussed. I know of India-GII list where discussions on technology can actually be fruitful.
thanks for understanding, Anurag
Dear Anurag,
Sorry for the trouble caused.
Dear Rony, I fail to understand why this mail belongs here. I believe there are better forums where ideas on technology implementation in India can be discussed. I know of India-GII list where discussions on technology can actually be fruitful.
I too agree, but the GII list is specific for the telecom. Are there any such list where technological ideas can be discussed?
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd. 10/1 IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur -440022 India. Web site - http://betacomp.com
Meet us at Booth I102, Taipei PLAS 2008, Sept 18-22 , Taiwan.
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008 14:38, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Since quite some time, the Railways has introduced smart cards that can be used on touch screen kiosks
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations
Old hat that comes to India when everbody gets tired of it. Old wine in new fancy bottle = cellphone as payment system. No need to buy any card. All the rage in Nokialand, where you can buy everything using a cellphone. If only they make that useless camera scan my finger and authenticate...
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:41 AM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
Old hat that comes to India when everbody gets tired of it. Old wine in new fancy bottle = cellphone as payment system. No need to buy any card. All the rage in Nokialand, where you can buy everything using a cellphone. If only they make that useless camera scan my finger and authenticate...
The problem is SMS messages can be easily spoofed. So cellphones as a means to do transactions is a bad idea.
On Thursday 19 Jun 2008 17:38, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:41 AM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
Old hat that comes to India when everbody gets tired of it. Old wine in new fancy bottle = cellphone as payment system. No need to buy any card. All the rage in Nokialand, where you can buy everything using a cellphone. If only they make that useless camera scan my finger and authenticate...
The problem is SMS messages can be easily spoofed. So cellphones as a means to do transactions is a bad idea.
does not use sms. Some other mechanism. Spoofing a simcard is not very easy (at least for now). And can be used countrywide for micro purchases,
The problem is SMS messages can be easily spoofed. So cellphones as a means to do transactions is a bad idea.
does not use sms. Some other mechanism. Spoofing a simcard is not very easy (at least for now). And can be used countrywide for micro purchases,
There are plenty of SIM cloning machines available. After all SIM has bunch of memory location, which can be read, and re programmed on a blank SIM. And this could be reason, why this technology else where in the world.
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd. 10/1 IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur -440022 India. Web site - http://betacomp.com
Meet us at Booth I102, Taipei PLAS 2008, Sept 18-22 , Taiwan.
On Friday 20 Jun 2008 22:11, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
The problem is SMS messages can be easily spoofed. So cellphones as a means to do transactions is a bad idea.
does not use sms. Some other mechanism. Spoofing a simcard is not very easy (at least for now). And can be used countrywide for micro purchases,
There are plenty of SIM cloning machines available. After all SIM has bunch of memory location, which can be read, and re programmed on a blank SIM. And this could be reason, why this technology else where in the world.
Duplicating is "different" from spoofing. duplicating means you must have a sim. So you need to change the sim frequently to protect your fraud. Not much fun or profit with a micro payment system. Spoofing means you hook up your pc to a gsm engine and spoof any number of SIMs. This makes slicing very attractive.
Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
The problem is SMS messages can be easily spoofed. So cellphones as a means to do transactions is a bad idea.
does not use sms. Some other mechanism. Spoofing a simcard is not very easy (at least for now). And can be used countrywide for micro purchases,
There are plenty of SIM cloning machines available. After all SIM has bunch of memory location, which can be read, and re programmed on a blank SIM. And this could be reason, why this technology else where in the world.
Illegal SIM cloning is done without the knowledge of the owner. It uses special radio equipment to intercept signals and decode them.
jtd wrote:
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008 14:38, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Since quite some time, the Railways has introduced smart cards that can be used on touch screen kiosks
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations
Old hat that comes to India when everbody gets tired of it. Old wine in new fancy bottle = cellphone as payment system. No need to buy any card. All the rage in Nokialand, where you can buy everything using a cellphone. If only they make that useless camera scan my finger and authenticate...
Everyone does not have a cell phone and even with the existing ones, the service providers will demand their pound of flesh. A card is simple and inexpensive, so accessible to all.
on Thursday 19 Jun 2008 17:53, Rony wrote:
jtd wrote:
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008 14:38, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Since quite some time, the Railways has introduced smart cards that can be used on touch screen kiosks
I find this technology has tremendous potential for use in various Govt. as well as private organizations
Old hat that comes to India when everbody gets tired of it. Old wine in new fancy bottle = cellphone as payment system. No need to buy any card. All the rage in Nokialand, where you can buy everything using a cellphone. If only they make that useless camera scan my finger and authenticate...
Everyone does not have a cell phone and even with the existing ones, the service providers will demand their pound of flesh. A card is simple and inexpensive, so accessible to all.
At least several million more have phones than cards. And that is not the real problem. The real problem is rolling out kiosks and associated backend infrastructure. BTW the card providers are also charging their pound of flesh. Even more fun would be etickets. Almost everything is already in place.
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