On 11/11/05, Sanket Medhi sanketmedhi@gmail.com wrote:

Suse is popular for its KDE. I have hardly seen anyone use Gnome on suse. If you use KDE, you will realize that Yast gives you all the latest packages to choose from. Having used Suse 9.3 for over a year, I must tell you, I never installed Gnome on Suse, and so never used it! All I can tell you that Suse is the best desktop distro out there and definitely worth buying. AFA Opensuse 10 is concerned, I havent used it yet, but definitely looking forward to in the near future.

Novell is moving from KDE to Gnome as the default desktop. This is partly due to the the acquisition of Ximian which was built on GTK libraries. The future version of OpenSuse will use Gnome as the default desktop. I think OpenSuse 10 has gnome as default but I am not sure.

link here -> http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20051104/tc_zd/164546

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Sanket Medhi wrote:

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Another important facility that is lacking is a proper gui dialup tool like kppp in kde or anything else in gnome. There was a novell dialup tool found after a lot of hunting in the packages selection list but that does not work even in root login.

Suse is popular for its KDE. I have hardly seen anyone use Gnome on suse. If you use KDE, you will realize that Yast gives you all the latest packages to choose from.

I installed gnome first then kde so there are both. My default now is kde.

AFA Opensuse 10 is concerned, I havent used it yet, but definitely looking forward to in the near future.

Its available in this month's LFY. I wonder if the mags try out these distros before they pack them in dvds. If they did so then it would save the readers unnecessary waste of time.

Regards,

Rony.

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Sanket Medhi wrote:

Is LFY available without subscription? On newspaper stands or something?

Yes it is. I never subscribe to computer mags. as most of them keep rotating software and everytime it may not be usefull. I do wonder if there is any connection between digit and chip.

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mehul wrote:

I too got suse 10.0 OSS from LFY this month and installed it.

It detects my cd's and dvd's as soon as i insert them and asks for the task to be performed even for cd's in my combo drive.

Hi Mehul,

As per your experience, I did a clean re-install of SuSe 10 and this time the kde was selected with other additional programs. It was pretty impressive. The games are nice too.

There is no kppp in SuSe10. Instead, they have 'kinternet'. That does not open at all. It keeps throwing errors even in root login. However there is wvdial and I simply copied my fc4 script into suse and it connects to the net along with sites opening properly.

It mounts my usb pendrive beautifully. The only problem that still persists is that of cds not mounting. It only mounts the suse dvd.

I am posting my fstab. Please check yours for comparison.

/dev/hda10 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/hda9 swap swap defaults 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /dev/hda8 /data1 auto noauto,user 0 0 /dev/dvd /media/dvd subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder subfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0

Regards,

Rony.

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Sometime on Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 12:24:02AM +0530, Rony Bill said:

Rony Bill wrote: An update. After changing the file system in fstb to auto for the cd drives, they mount the cds and I can read data.

You could have enabled "subfs" support in your system, I read somewhere that SuSE's kernel uses this submount thing to automount drives

Anurag

There is no kppp in SuSe10. Instead, they have 'kinternet'. That does not open at all. It keeps throwing errors even in root login. However there is wvdial and I simply copied my fc4 script into suse and it connects to the net along with sites opening properly.

snip Hi roni Good to hear that everything else went properly. But, I do find kppp in my Suse menu. Under internet->dial up, i got two entries kinternet as well as kppp. Just try to check it out by menu updating tool. Or maybe its not been installed then just check it out in the dvd. Cos I'm sure Suse has bundled kppp. About your errors, I can't help you out as I've never used dial up under linux.

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--- Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

In the dvd during setup, I checked through the entire kde list last time as well as during re-install and could not locate kppp. Are you using the CD provided by LFY?

Regards,

Rony.

Hmmm, that's funny. I'm really confused about how is this happening. Yeah I used the DVD I got from LFY. Well I'm checking out the DVD to see if I can locate where kppp is present in the DVD. BTW, did you try using Run-> kppp? Now, for my problem. It seems very strange one. I am trying to download FreeBSD. It just frequently disconnects. I tried using different mirrors but in vain. My downloads just stop midway and never reconnect. I'm using kget to download them. Now, for the main headache. Atlast I did get FreeBSD 6.0 bootonly file to download. But, to my horror the file's just disappeared after the download. Here's my log file of kget for bootonly iso: 14:14:15 : Copy file from: ftp://ftp2.au.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/6.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso 14:14:15 : To: file:///home/mehul/KMLDonkey/6.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso 14:14:15 : Attempt number 1 14:14:15 : Opening connection to host ftp2.au.freebsd.org 14:14:26 : Connected to host ftp2.au.freebsd.org 14:14:26 : Sending login information 14:14:27 : Login OK 14:18:18 : Total size is 45936640 bytes 17:14:52 : Download finished But, when I checked the directory no such file existed. This happened twice once as as normal user and other as root. This has got me really frustrated. I tried using KBear(ftp client) but it crashes every so often and is rarely able to log into FreeBSD site though it logs into other ftp sites properly. I tried using KTorrent. But, its just too slow. After 3 days only 5% has been downloaded though the tracker seems OK. But, the speed just keeps on fluctuating all the time. And yeah I have 256 kbps Hathway connection. Plus, I've changed the default port of ktorrent as well as UDP tracker port. But, in vain.

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On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 20:01 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:

Does the SuSE 10 DVD that comes with LFY include x86_64 version as well?

It is 32bit version.

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mehul wrote: I am trying to download FreeBSD. It just frequently

disconnects. I tried using different mirrors but in vain. My downloads just stop midway and never reconnect. I'm using kget to download them.

I just glanced through kget's settings in SuSe and it has a retry option of certain times. You must have passed that number of retrys. Just guessing. Does it resume after a manual reconnect? I am just comparing my usage of 'fresh download' that I use, but it is in the other unmentionable OS. It has 8 retrys and then stops. However it can be reconnected for a new session and again it has 8 retrys. Is hathway having some setting to block massive downloads or a time limit for a single connection to a server?

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mehul wrote:

BitComet worked really well for me alas it isn't available for linux. And what's so unmentionable about windows?

Hi!, I just downloaded 2 pdf files from SuSe's site using Opera. I found the ref. file usefull for learning some firewall settings. See if the file has a solution to your problems. :)

From: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse10/pdfdoc/suse10_start/suse10_start.... To: /home/rony/Desktop/suse10_start.pdf Size: 5.1 MB (5,302,220 bytes) Transferred: 5.1 MB (5,302,220 bytes)

From: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse10/pdfdoc/suse10_ref/suse10_ref.pdf To: /home/rony/Desktop/suse10_ref.pdf Size: 11.5 MB (11,964,895 bytes) Transferred: 11.5 MB (11,964,895 bytes)

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On Saturday 12 November 2005 18:14, mehul wrote:

Thanks roni But look at the log closely. It states that the file was completely downloaded. Also, I've changed max. tries to 25. And am sure it hasn't used up that much cos that was only as 40 sumthing mb file whereas other files - FreeBSD cd1 and cd2 have downloaded around 50mb each and have only used up 3 tries each. About hathway massive download blocker, I don't think so cos when I had windows I used to download lotsa files using BitComet. BitComet worked really well for me alas it isn't available for linux. And what's so unmentionable about windows?

Buddy, have you ever considered using wget? Use the following command if hathway is causing your connection to stall / timeout:

wget -c --tries=0 --timeout=30 ftp://foo.com/foo.iso

It will try indefinitely and everytime your connection drops or stalls, it will wait 30s before retrying.

If you still have problems then try using rsync. It's supported on most servers. And have you considered a command line bittorrent client? If you can download through bittorrent then why not download the bittorrent client for GNU/Linux and give it a go??

Regards.

On Saturday 12 November 2005 20:03, mehul wrote:

Thanks dinesh I really forgot about wget. Will surely try out these methods. As far as bittorrent is considered. I'm using ktorrent that comes with suse and for slackware I'm using azureus but I'm dissatisfied with both as I haven't seen speeds like I saw in BitComet even for the same torrents. Can someone suggest me another good bittorrent client available for linux and preferrably similar to bitcomet. Thanks

Use bittorrent. Its a python client, I think. It gives great speeds and its command line. So you can just put it to download in a screen. Kill X and relax ;) Azurues gives terrible download speeds. Dunno why. Dunno about ktorrent. never used it. Also, try setting the ports to 40000+...

On Saturday 12 November 2005 22:17, mehul wrote:

I did download bittorrent. But, its not installing. I read the install file with it and as per the file. I tried installing it but got following error:- linux:/home/mehul/KMLDonkey/Xilisoft/BitTorrent-4.1.7 # python setup.py python: can't open file 'language_codes.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory ./makei18n.sh: line 20: xgettext: command not found ./makei18n.sh: line 32: msguniq: command not found usage: setup.py [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts] ...] or: setup.py --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...] or: setup.py --help-commands or: setup.py cmd --help

error: no commands supplied

I also tried changing port of ktorrent client to 40000+ and it seemed to work all of a sudden the torrent came to life. Though its not runing now. I'll leave it on later and see the results.

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May be Hathway is blocking the protocol by using packeteer or something similar. This sucks big time. But I think you mentioned that it works in windows. So it should work in Linux too. BTW I dunno about installing bittorrent. I have it on my debian router and to install it, i just had to issue: apt-get install bittorrent. Which distro are you using? Dont you have an automated tool that can install it?? (or atleast find out the dependencies?)

Regards

On Sunday 13 November 2005 10:50, mehul wrote:

Hmmm I haven't run ktorrent yet but tried out wget ad it seems to be going fine and i'm getting good speeds now. Well I can't seem to find Suse rpm for bittorrent. I do remember I had bittorrent in FC3 before. But, can't recall I got it by rpm or .tar.gz format. But, that used to work. Which is the automated tool that can do it for suse? Does kpackage do it. Sorry for not doing much research as i got exams coming up this week and can't spend too much time.

Hey! I too have exams next week... Stop cribbing about exams! Well, you can use Yast in SuSE ;)

Hi,

On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 01:33, mehul wrote:

--- Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com wrote:

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servers. And have you considered a command line bittorrent client? If you can download through bittorrent then why not download the bittorrent client for GNU/Linux and give it a go??

Check this... Bittorrent (bittorrent-3.4.2-1.0.rh9.rf.noarch.rpm) on RH9

file: debian-31r0a-amd64-binary-1.iso size: 4,691,372,032 (4.4 GB) dest: /home/public/download/Linux/debian-31r0a-amd64-binary-1.iso progress: ######____________________________________________________ status: finishing in 39:06:29 (6.6%) speed: 22.2 KB/s down - 24.8 KB/s up totals: 293.5 MB down - 399.2 MB up error(s):

ISP: Hathway Cable connection. Though I am not happy about their UPTIME.

With regards,

My fave bittorrent client is Azureus, not only coz it looks cool and gives good speed but also it gives you excellent info about you downloads/uploads. For eg. the swarm view of your downloads. Its definitely worth a try! I am just suggesting this in case you want to try a GUI client, or else command line always rocks. :D

-- Regards, Sanket Medhi.

mehul wrote:

Hi sanket. My problem has been that azureus isn't giving me good speeds + it hogs up my 256 mb of RAM. I am using it at present but I wanna give others a try cos of this problem. I'd like to use GUI client better but at the present best I got is GUI BitTornado. It opens up separate windows for each torrent. But, atleast it's giving me better speeds than azureus. Dunno what's the matter with my machine. All others seem to be getting around 20-22 kbps on their 256 kbps connection but most i seem to get from bittorrent is 15-16 kbps

Azureus is a big memory eater! Plus its Java based, which I hate. But I still use Azureus, because I have ample RAM available and it does have some good features. Recently, I found ktorrent. I just installed it on my Gentoo yesterday, haven't used it yet though. It has some of the features Azureus provides. You might want to give it a try.

As for Azureus, it wastes a lot of bandwidth with the distributed tracking and stuff... I find 20-30 MB extra downloaded by Azureus for its "protocol"! Maybe that's one reason it doesn't give you the full speed.

Regards, Mrugesh

mehul wrote:

I got ktorrent in suse. It crashes like every half hour. So, I think I'd better keep off it. I really loved BitComet under windows dunno if something on similar lines can be available in linux.

Did you do your duty and send in a bug report?

Mrugesh

One query...does bitcomet (text mode) handle several torrent downloads in one process or as different ones? -- Regards, Sanket Medhi.

mehul wrote:

hey how to report my ktorrents bug crash? I tried using bug reporting tool with SUSE but it doesn't allow me to send bug report for ktorrents among the crash applications. I saved the crash log in a file. So how do I report it now? I've done it before so I got no clue.

Well, I don't know about SuSE. OpenSuSE does have a bugzilla. If your ktorrent came with the distribution itself, you can probably report the bug there. Otherwise, you can report the bug to the author of the software.

Mrugesh

On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 21:14 +0530, mehul wrote:

I'm talking about OpenSuse. Ktorrents came with opensuse. I tried using bugzilla only but it didn't allow me to send bug report for ktorrent. I will try to report it to the author.

ktorrent is part of KDE; I don't think SuSE or any other distro fixes bugs in the bundled apps.

Report the bug directly @ bugs.kde.org.

Hi All,

On 11/11/05, Devendra Laulkar devendralaulkar@gmail.com wrote:

I was also disappointed with Suse. I personally think that any *Desktop* distro must come with lots of audio and video codecs. FC4 has the same problems as also Ubuntu I think.

Just wanted to verify something : is this SUSE 10 or SUSE 10 OSS version. OSS version doesnot have any commercial packages. A quick check can be is there Acrobat Reader or Real Player included?

Also several packages are in violation of any patent or copyright are generally not included.

Another thing Opensuse is open for filing bugs . I strongly suggest looking up the bugzilla and filling new ones so that it doesnot get overlook in 10.1

Regards Harsh

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