I dont trust Politicians. Previously Caste and Religion was used as Election manifesto, and its a pity now that the Opensource community is being dragged into politics.... Its not politicians, but we IT
professionals
who have promoted Open source Applications... Open Source Platform is for all and not a dependent on political promotion...
I agree with venkatesh.. the reason for posting this article from "THE HINDU" is that there will be discussion.. and in this election season, we must know whom we vote for.. Hw our objectives will be fulfilled and we must fight for our rights..
I agree that these politicians have promised us and nt delivered.. if v start to tell v ll nt care fr them than i think we are like them.. LAZY and IGNORANT...
guys we must stand up and say "U(Politicians) cnt take us for a ride". I second with venky on this
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Politics and Political parties are not of any use to us.
They are our representatives and we have to make them work for us, the people of India. We are lucky that we live in a democracy that has many checks and balances and it is our responsibility to be engaged in the democratic process.
Venky "
Rahul Rai wrote:
I agree with venkatesh.. the reason for posting this article from "THE HINDU" is that there will be discussion.. and in this election season, we must know whom we vote for.. Hw our objectives will be fulfilled and we must fight for our rights..
I agree that these politicians have promised us and nt delivered.. if v start to tell v ll nt care fr them than i think we are like them.. LAZY and IGNORANT...
guys we must stand up and say "U(Politicians) cnt take us for a ride". I second with venky on this
Everything finally boils down to how the elected representatives who head the Central and State Governments will react when M/s Moneybags Inc. promise investment worth millions of $$ into the country or a particular state for creating jobs and promoting computer literacy. Shelling out Govt. funds to promote FOSS is another story.
I was wondering if big corporates like RedHat could use the RHCE model to promote computer education at the school level. They can introduce a light weight course and official certification for learning Linux right from school level. Some goodies could be offered to students who do well in the exams. Their representatives can approach schools and promote this standard curriculum individually to different schools. Already many computer institutes have mushroomed everywhere offering RHCE courses. With a corporate giant stepping in, the principals and management will be convinced much better. The company can promote the virtues of FOSS by focusing on the legal problems of using pirated software and the fact that students can practice computers at home without having to invest a bomb on different proprietary software like OS, Office, Graphics etc.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Rahul Rai wrote:
I agree with venkatesh.. the reason for posting this article from "THE HINDU" is that there will be discussion.. and in this election season, we must know whom we vote for.. Hw our objectives will be fulfilled and we must fight for our rights..
I agree that these politicians have promised us and nt delivered.. if v start to tell v ll nt care fr them than i think we are like them.. LAZY and IGNORANT...
guys we must stand up and say "U(Politicians) cnt take us for a ride". I second with venky on this
Everything finally boils down to how the elected representatives who head the Central and State Governments will react when M/s Moneybags Inc. promise investment worth millions of $$ into the country or a particular state for creating jobs and promoting computer literacy. Shelling out Govt. funds to promote FOSS is another story.
I was wondering if big corporates like RedHat could use the RHCE model to promote computer education at the school level. They can introduce a light weight course and official certification for learning Linux right from school level. Some goodies could be offered to students who do well in the exams. Their representatives can approach schools and promote this standard curriculum individually to different schools. Already many computer institutes have mushroomed everywhere offering RHCE courses. With a corporate giant stepping in, the principals and management will be convinced much better. The company can promote the virtues of FOSS by focusing on the legal problems of using pirated software and the fact that students can practice computers at home without having to invest a bomb on different proprietary software like OS, Office, Graphics etc.
It is the educationists who should take the lead here and not the technologists. The distro vendors can play a supporting role and be catalysts in the process of creating a FOSS-Edu community because they are the ones who know the education system intimately.
Venky
Venkatesh Hariharan wrote:
I was wondering if big corporates like RedHat could use the RHCE model to promote computer education at the school level. They can introduce a light weight course and official certification for learning Linux right from school level. Some goodies could be offered to students who do well in the exams. Their representatives can approach schools and promote this standard curriculum individually to different schools. Already many computer institutes have mushroomed everywhere offering RHCE courses. With a corporate giant stepping in, the principals and management will be convinced much better. The company can promote the virtues of FOSS by focusing on the legal problems of using pirated software and the fact that students can practice computers at home without having to invest a bomb on different proprietary software like OS, Office, Graphics etc.
It is the educationists who should take the lead here and not the technologists. The distro vendors can play a supporting role and be catalysts in the process of creating a FOSS-Edu community because they are the ones who know the education system intimately.
Instead of Govt. schools, corporates can approach normal private schools like convents, which do not require intervention from any education dept. and can induct private certification courses for learning Linux. The Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) syllabus for adults is quite comprehensive for learning Linux from basic to advanced in administration. Likewise Red Hat can create school level certification courses where focus is on use of the OS and its software like OpenOffice, GIMP, Inkscape etc. If it starts happening at least in private schools it can slowly overflow into public schools too.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Venkatesh Hariharan wrote:
I was wondering if big corporates like RedHat could use the RHCE model to promote computer education at the school level. They can introduce a light weight course and official certification for learning Linux right from school level. Some goodies could be offered to students who do well in the exams. Their representatives can approach schools and promote this standard curriculum individually to different schools. Already many computer institutes have mushroomed everywhere offering RHCE courses. With a corporate giant stepping in, the principals and management will be convinced much better. The company can promote the virtues of FOSS by focusing on the legal problems of using pirated software and the fact that students can practice computers at home without having to invest a bomb on different proprietary software like OS, Office, Graphics etc.
It is the educationists who should take the lead here and not the technologists. The distro vendors can play a supporting role and be catalysts in the process of creating a FOSS-Edu community because they are the ones who know the education system intimately.
Instead of Govt. schools, corporates can approach normal private schools like convents, which do not require intervention from any education dept. and can induct private certification courses for learning Linux. The Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) syllabus for adults is quite comprehensive for learning Linux from basic to advanced in administration. Likewise Red Hat can create school level certification courses where focus is on use of the OS and its software like OpenOffice, GIMP, Inkscape etc. If it starts happening at least in private schools it can slowly overflow into public schools too.
Red Hat has created a computer based training module and manual for beginners. Intel is creating one for beginners. IIT Bombay has created the Computer Masti series based on FOSS (see www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~sri/ssrvm/)
Therefore, some amount of good content should be available soon. However, creating a certification program is a huge administrative exercise and I don't know if any of the distro vendors are geared up for this. More than a cost issue, it is a manpower issue because this would be a time-intensive exercise.
Venky
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Instead of Govt. schools, corporates can approach normal private schools like convents, which do not require intervention from any education dept. and can induct private certification courses for learning Linux.
Irrespective of the category of schools you'd like to focus on - it should work out best if the persons_interested/involved_in_education lead the project. Unless there are specific requirements drawn up via (what is classically called) subject matter experts, any intervention would be half-done.
The Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) syllabus for adults is quite comprehensive for learning Linux from basic to advanced in administration. Likewise Red Hat can create school level certification courses where focus is on use of the OS and its software like OpenOffice, GIMP, Inkscape etc. If it starts happening at least in private schools it can slowly overflow into public schools too.
What would be the incentive for private schools to invest in such certifications for their students ?
On Saturday 18 April 2009, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
What would be the incentive for private schools to invest in such certifications for their students ?
I would say that it is an incentive for the service provider ie the distro companies. Having good and sufficient manpower is what their business model hinges on. Of course having a ready market for the passouts is also an incentive to the school. Especially in the current constrained economic env. During the boom time this wasnt the case as all and sundry were hired
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