2010/11/25 pavithran s pavi.eu@gmail.com:

Lets get rid of *mono* from our distro's . To hell with them !

Vote with your choice of distro. In Ubuntu, Mono appears to be pervasive:

sudo apt-get remove mono-runtime Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: f-spot gbrainy libart2.0-cil libflickrnet2.2-cil libgconf2.0-cil libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-keyring1.0-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgtk2.0-cil liblaunchpad-integration1.0-cil libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-data-tds2.0-cil libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-system2.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libnunit2.4-cil mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime tomboy 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 36 to remove and 12 not upgraded. After this operation, 48.8MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort.

Binand

On Thursday 25 November 2010 17:50:59 steve wrote:

On 11/25/2010 05:29 PM, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:

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2010/11/25 pavithran spavi.eu@gmail.com:

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Lets get rid of *mono* from our distro's . To hell with them !

Vote with your choice of distro. In Ubuntu, Mono appears to be pervasive:

+1

Fedora here I come.

On Thursday 25 Nov 2010 5:50:59 pm steve wrote:

On 11/25/2010 05:29 PM, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:

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2010/11/25 pavithran spavi.eu@gmail.com:

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Lets get rid of *mono* from our distro's . To hell with them !

Vote with your choice of distro. In Ubuntu, Mono appears to be pervasive:

+1

me toooooo

yohan@dethkomp ~ $ echo "gnome-base/gnome -mono" >> /etc/portage/package.use yohan@dethkomp ~ $ echo "dev-lang/mono" >> /etc/portage/package.mask yohan@dethkomp ~ $ sudo emerge --update --deep --newuse @world

What does this mean for openSUSE? It used to be my favourite distro. It is definitely a very competent distro in its own right although people hardly mention it in India.

On 26 November 2010 12:12, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 12:03 +0530, Debayan Banerjee wrote:

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What does this mean for openSUSE? It used to be my favourite distro. It is definitely a very competent distro in its own right although people hardly mention it in India.

which part of India is this? It is widely used in many parts of India.

Well I would not say it is widely used. Not as much as Fedora or Ubuntu certainly. We used it in our college to the extent that we had local openSUSE repositories on the network but if you talk about the openSUSE community, there is a very low-traffic opensuse-india list. Jigish Gohil from Vadodara drives the list and the very small community. Infact I can count on a single finger how many active openSUSE evangelists exist on mailing lists in India.

What I wanted to know though is how the Novell sell-out affects openSUSE as a community distro.

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 12:25 +0530, Debayan Banerjee wrote:

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which part of India is this? It is widely used in many parts of

India.

Well I would not say it is widely used. Not as much as Fedora or Ubuntu certainly. We used it in our college to the extent that we had local openSUSE repositories on the network but if you talk about the openSUSE community, there is a very low-traffic opensuse-india list. Jigish Gohil from Vadodara drives the list and the very small community. Infact I can count on a single finger how many active openSUSE evangelists exist on mailing lists in India.

well, most of the opensuse users I have come across use computers to get things done - and since opensuse works out of the box, there is very little to discuss about. My kids have opensuse on their netbooks, and it just works - including wireless, movies and music (which is all kids care about anyway). In ubuntu nothing works properly which is why there is a huge noise on their fora (which is out of proportion to the number of users). Fedora is experimental, but of late very well behaved. As for Redhat, much more stable and supported, so less noise.

On Friday 26 November 2010 12:03:38 Debayan Banerjee wrote:

What does this mean for openSUSE? It used to be my favourite distro. It is definitely a very competent distro in its own right although people hardly mention it in India.

On an individual level, maybe not much. But if you are a business, individual or not BEWARE. M$ screws it's own customers, and would be very happy to screw those who arent.

As a dveloper, the writing is on the wall. As the computing environment matures and everything reduces to a deeply fragmented commodity market, companies with 4digit profit percentages will have no leg to stand on. In the past they simply folded or merged into something else without much noise. But now they use every possible tactic to drag everyone and the dog with them.

Interestingly big ballmer has sold off huge chunks of his shareholding in M$. Bail out before the rats start biting.

In all this RMS seems to be a real seer. Groklaw's Pamela Jones goes as afar as telling the kernel guys to wake up and start thinking about GPLV3. V3 was dismissed as a US centric problem/solution.

It does not seem to be staying that way.

On 26 November 2010 16:18, Aseem Rane aseemrane@gmail.com wrote:

Not so with my Kubuntu

Which is obvious because mono and its packages are used with gnome and some of the applications . As a KDE user in kubuntu you surely wouldn't have anything to do with mono .

so its victory KDE and all KDE based distros you are safe from evil hands :D

Regards, Pavithran

On Friday 26 Nov 2010 10:26:48 pm Rony wrote:

Gnome! My friend

and what about the upcoming gnome-shell ?

have you tried 4.x recently?

4.6 betas were out yesterday or so

if u consider tamil nadu to be part of india http://www.novell.com/news/press/electronics-corporation-of-tamil-nadu-choos...

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:26 AM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:

On Friday 26 November 2010 22:26:48 Rony wrote:

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On Friday 26 November 2010 07:11 PM, pavithran s wrote:

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so its victory KDE and all KDE based distros you are safe from evil hands :D

True, but who will save us from KDE 4.X?

Gnome! My friend. :-)

;-). KDE4.XXX is not that bad, though it takes some getting used to. Also read somwhere that you can get back the old interface easily.

-- Rgds JTD -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:40 +0530, Kshitiz wrote:

I am not sure what you meant by your comment, request you to elaborate.

it was a feeble attempt at humour - nothing to elaborate.

On Saturday 27 November 2010 11:26 AM, jtd wrote:

On Friday 26 November 2010 22:26:48 Rony wrote:

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On Friday 26 November 2010 07:11 PM, pavithran s wrote:

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so its victory KDE and all KDE based distros you are safe from evil hands :D

True, but who will save us from KDE 4.X?

Gnome! My friend. :-)

;-). KDE4.XXX is not that bad, though it takes some getting used to. Also read somwhere that you can get back the old interface easily.

It is not the interface but its dead weight that I did not like. Gnome has a very good 'Places' menu that allows you to mount network drives very smoothly. KDE was buggy on that front even before version 4.0. One area where KDE beats Gnome hands down is K3B. I still use it in gnome by adding it post installation. Gnome's recorder works but sometimes it keeps giving repeated errors even in simple settings. K3B comes to the rescue. And there's 'showfoto' which is excellent for picture labeling.