Hi all,
Here's a message that I got recently. As you can see its from some dot-com who thinks its good at handling spam. The mail itself got marked as "SPAM" on the IITB servers, by the way! ;-)
----- Forwarded message from Spam Arrest info@spamarrest.com -----
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:19:09 -0800 From: Spam Arrest info@spamarrest.com X-Scanned: By Symantec Carrier Scan Server Subject: {SPAM?} ADV: Enjoy a spam-free inbox To: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" sameerds@it.iitb.ac.in
You may remember recently sending an email to a Spam Arrest customer, and receiving a response asking you to visit our website and type in a word that was shown to you in a picture.
<snip>
----- End forwarded message -----
I do remember getting such a mail from a person named Rishi on this group. And I had replied to him saying that please try to keep mailing lists out of this hassle. Now through him spamarrest decides it has found an email address worth sending adverisements to, which I consider spam. Does that mean Rishi is responsible for my account getting these mails?
Is there any place where I can discuss this with people involved in tackling the spam problem?
Sameer.
On 14/02/03 09:41 +0530, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: <snip>
I do remember getting such a mail from a person named Rishi on this group. And I had replied to him saying that please try to keep mailing lists out of this hassle. Now through him spamarrest decides it has found an email address worth sending adverisements to, which I consider spam. Does that mean Rishi is responsible for my account getting these mails?
Is there any place where I can discuss this with people involved in tackling the spam problem?
Devdas Bhagat
On Friday 14 February 2003 9:41 am, you wrote:
Hi all,
Here's a message that I got recently. As you can see its from some dot-com who thinks its good at handling spam. The mail itself got marked as "SPAM" on the IITB servers, by the way! ;-)
----- Forwarded message from Spam Arrest info@spamarrest.com -----
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:19:09 -0800 From: Spam Arrest info@spamarrest.com X-Scanned: By Symantec Carrier Scan Server Subject: {SPAM?} ADV: Enjoy a spam-free inbox To: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" sameerds@it.iitb.ac.in
You may remember recently sending an email to a Spam Arrest customer, and receiving a response asking you to visit our website and type in a word that was shown to you in a picture.
<snip>
----- End forwarded message -----
I do remember getting such a mail from a person named Rishi on this group. And I had replied to him saying that please try to keep mailing lists out of this hassle. Now through him spamarrest decides it has found an email address worth sending adverisements to, which I consider spam. Does that mean Rishi is responsible for my account getting these mails?
Is there any place where I can discuss this with people involved in tackling the spam problem?
Sameer.
Hello Sameer,
I'm sorry that now Spam Arrest is doing this to you and probably others on this list. I guess you could block email from their mail servers.
I've requested them not to send advertisements to people that are in my authorized list of email addresses.
If you continue to get these messages from them, please let me know.
I did not realize that this would happen when I signed up for their service.
Apart from the fact that their service is 100% effective solution to reducing the SPAM that I receive, the part that they SPAM others really make me feel bad. I hope they quicky realize this and stop misusing their pretty good system.
Sorry everyone on this list in advance.
Regards
Rishi
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:12:19PM +0530, Rishi Gangoly wrote:
Apart from the fact that their service is 100% effective solution to reducing the SPAM that I receive, the part that they SPAM others really make me feel bad. I hope they quicky realize this and stop misusing their pretty good system.
Too bad, isn't it? But if you have POP or IMAP access to your mail, I would definitely recommend the latest versions of Mozilla. It has built in mechanisms that actually learn which mails are spam and which are not, based on what you do with them. Most effective spam protection so far ...
Sameer.
On 15/02/03 20:13 +0530, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: <snip>
Too bad, isn't it? But if you have POP or IMAP access to your mail, I would definitely recommend the latest versions of Mozilla. It has built in mechanisms that actually learn which mails are spam and which are not, based on what you do with them. Most effective spam protection so far ...
Bayesian filters are nice, but expensive stuff. I prefer RBLs.
Devdas Bhagat
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 09:26:14PM +0530, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
- Lacture by Richard Stallman @ VJTI on 14th Feb. 2003 @ 6:00pm. *
On 15/02/03 20:13 +0530, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:
<snip> > Too bad, isn't it? But if you have POP or IMAP access to your mail, I > would definitely recommend the latest versions of Mozilla. It has > built in mechanisms that actually learn which mails are spam and which > are not, based on what you do with them. Most effective spam > protection so far ... Bayesian filters are nice, but expensive stuff.
Expensive? In what way? Computationally or band-width wise?
I prefer RBLs.
yeah, sure! Saves you on bandwidth!
On 17/02/03 15:33 +0530, Ravindra Jaju wrote: <snip>
Bayesian filters are nice, but expensive stuff.
Expensive? In what way? Computationally or band-width wise?
Bayesian filters are individualistic, which means they cannot be run on ISP servers. Pay for all your spam anyway and then locally do your computation (this is nice if you have the spare CPU). Server side filtering, costs ISP bandwidth, disk space, and CPU.
I prefer RBLs.
yeah, sure! Saves you on bandwidth!
Did I mention no filtering expenses? BTW, Postfix 2.x has a nice DISCARD target that lets you silently discard mail. Good way of dropping spam that makes it past the RBL anf access.db checks.
Devdas Bhagat
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