On Friday 27 May 2005 18:04, Puneet Lakhina wrote:

Please take this off list if u want to continue, since I dont want to bore everyone with what we find interesting.

On Friday 27 May 2005 18:04, Puneet Lakhina wrote:

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Hey Sherlock,

i know ur name is some jtd but m just helpin u stay in ur ambient temperature. And ya customers wisening up, if you deliver value to the custmore than the most wise decision he made was hirin u??

You are mixing up getting customers and using illegal means to get customers. I jolly well know that getting customers (users) is important. Your tactic for getting them may include huge ad spends on BBC and Star telling potential customers blatant lies about how secure your software is or quietly working on already very secure software to make it even better. Getting customers illegally is bad for the customer and for other's business. But again it's not the business end of things that most people in the FLOSS eco system are interested in. It is usurping the commons and destroying it's value that we are worried about. M$ is the biggest and worst offender. There are / were others too Cisco, CherryOS, SCO, Forefront technologies (afair) etc.

And about M$ loosing customers, thats just evolution as more n more players come into the market and its good enough to survive the major market holder will loose some share and thats where a company has to innovate to stay in business. I dont know if u know it or not but "lets see where M$ will be if they keep their current behaviour.

Current behaviour was in reference to ILLEGAL behaviour. Legal strategies and tactics are welcome and as you point out necessary.

And ya about makin illogical observations - well if havin the customer s my first poriority sounds illogical to you, u should be doin some readin not me..

You missed the point completely. It's about aquiring customers by illegal and unethical behaviour. Unethical is again subjective. To me an example of unethical tho perfectly legal behaviour is patetenting of prior art tech (fat file system, IS NOT, ) submarine patents. The fat file patents were overthrown but it costed the commons money and time to do so, both of which could have been more profitably spent.

--chop the baloney about world peace, iraq, school education etc---

PS try changin ur email address u really are an embarrasment to the name..

Somebody lost his cool -0 -that is a personal attack. But u obviously don't know me.

and pls reply offlist if u want to continue discussing, i think we are wasting the commons resources.

rgds jtd