Remember the hulla ballo that was created when someone suggested using meebo? :O
That someone was me. If you really want it, then we can have a nice debate on this, and I can clearly explain to you why it was at all needed.
Why blame meebo? Because its the new kid on the block, and not as big as Yahoo! MSN, or Google? How do you know that the big names are not giving out your ID to some unwanted place?
And yes Kenneth, I think you are going way over board. Who are you to decide to boot the chap? Sure he has made a mistake. But then I don't think that has been repeated by him. Who are you to single handedly force the point that people need to be booted without any warning? I mean I thought this mailing list's code of conduct was drafted by some knowledgeable person in a reasonably democratic way. Ok Hyderabad does it, Chennai does, so what? So what man? You are taking this issue to such an extent as to start another deluge of OT posts.
Tell me onething everybody. What happens if your mail account gets infected by viruses of the sort that keep sending mails to all the addresses in our address book. Its theoretically all right to talk about how one should not give around his ID, blah, blah.... But in such a case you are realy the victim and not the transgressor.
This one spam is NOTHING compared to the deluge of OT threads, which got the whole list a very bad name. (Read ilug-cal archives.) Dont make this fellow a scapegoat.
Regards, Debarshi
-- Dinesh A. Joshi
On 10-Aug-06, at 2:44 AM, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray wrote:
And yes Kenneth, I think you are going way over board. Who are you to decide to boot the chap? Sure he has made a mistake. But then I don't think that has been repeated by him. Who are you to single handedly force the point that people need to be booted without any warning? I mean I thought this mailing list's code of conduct was drafted by some knowledgeable person in a reasonably democratic way. Ok Hyderabad does it, Chennai does, so what? So what man? You are taking this issue to such an extent as to start another deluge of OT posts.
why are you taking this personaly? I have every right to express my opinion and attempt to influence list policy. And every right to quote examples from the way other lists do things. And will continue to do so. What i am emphasising is that the concept of moderation is inherently evil as it sets up one person in judgement over others. Which is alien to the philosophy of freedom we support here. We are not china, with 30,0000 big brothers looking after our behaviour and habits.
Tell me onething everybody. What happens if your mail account gets infected by viruses of the sort that keep sending mails to all the addresses in our address book. Its theoretically all right to talk about how one should not give around his ID, blah, blah.... But in such a case you are realy the victim and not the transgressor.
anyone stupid enough, careless enough to get his mail account infected by such viruses is a menace to the community and deserves to be booted. You dont blame the birds that get flu - you just cull them
Sometime Today, DRR cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Why blame meebo? Because its the new kid on the block, and not as big as Yahoo! MSN, or Google? How do you know that the big names are not giving out your ID to some unwanted place?
Ok, I'll tell you what. You give me all your passwords, and I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with using meebo. If you're not willing to give me your passwords, then don't tell others to give out theirs.
Note, (and I hope you read this very very carefully), this is NOT about giving out your email address. I already have that. This is about passwords.
One last question for you. How many people have you seen who have lost their Yahoo! account? I've seen thousands.
Philip
On Thursday 10 August 2006 05:58, Philip Tellis wrote:
Ok, I'll tell you what. You give me all your passwords, and I'll agree that there's nothing wrong with using meebo. If you're not willing to give me your passwords, then don't tell others to give out theirs.
Hes not telling / forcing anyone to give out anything. All he did was suggested using Meebo. There is nothing wrong in doing that. Ultimatley people have a choice where they enter their passwords.
What you're suggesting is kill the advertiser because you fear that people will contract cancer and / or any other lung diseases since they will start smoking looking at his ads. IMO that is silly.
On Thursday 10 August 2006 16:33, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Hes not telling / forcing anyone to give out anything. All he did was suggested using Meebo. There is nothing wrong in doing that. Ultimatley people have a choice where they enter their passwords.
What you're suggesting is kill the advertiser because you fear that people will contract cancer and / or any other lung diseases since they will start smoking looking at his ads. IMO that is silly.
Just to add to this... Phillip, why dont you tell people to boycott cybercafes? Sit alone at home in a sound proof dark room with jammers while entering their passwords? There are a lot worse things that can happen to people than meebo.
Sometime Today, DJ cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Just to add to this... Phillip, why dont you tell people to boycott cybercafes? Sit alone at home in a sound proof dark room with jammers while entering their passwords? There are a lot worse things that can
I do. They just don't listen.
Sometime on Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:44:51AM +0530, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray said:
Remember the hulla ballo that was created when someone suggested using meebo? :O
That someone was me. If you really want it, then we can have a nice debate on this, and I can clearly explain to you why it was at all needed.
Why blame meebo? Because its the new kid on the block, and not as big as Yahoo! MSN, or Google? How do you know that the big names are not giving out your ID to some unwanted place?
Please note that this is about giving your Yahoo/MSN info to third party. There's nothing wrong in giving Yahoo/MSN's login/passwd to Yahoo/MSN itself, no matter if its a new kid around the block or an old heavy weight. What Yahoo/MSN will do with your info is clearly mentioned in their TOS.
Tell me onething everybody. What happens if your mail account gets infected by viruses of the sort that keep sending mails to all the addresses in our address book. Its theoretically all right to talk
That is the precise reason why this list does not allow emails larger than 7KB and strips out all the attachments. Most of these kinds of nematodes spread via attachments.
Anurag
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 21:14, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray wrote:
Remember the hulla ballo that was created when someone suggested using meebo? :O
That someone was me. If you really want it, then we can have a nice debate on this, and I can clearly explain to you why it was at all needed.
Umm... there is no need. I remember all the 'security risks' and 'identity thefts' that were covered the last time :P
Why blame meebo? Because its the new kid on the block, and not as big as Yahoo! MSN, or Google? How do you know that the big names are not giving out your ID to some unwanted place?
Its ok to give gmail your gmail id & password and yahoo your yahoo id & password but not vice versa. Some services ( sms.ac, hi5, ringo, some IQ testing services and spammers ) misuse your id and people should guard against it. But as we can see, that guy didnt and we got "spammed". Yes, my spam box is full of such invites from people i dont even know. People should use an alternate id for such things :P.
And yes Kenneth, I think you are going way over board. Who are you to decide to boot the chap? Sure he has made a mistake. But then I don't think that has been repeated by him. Who are you to single handedly force the point that people need to be booted without any warning? I mean I thought this mailing list's code of conduct was drafted by some knowledgeable person in a reasonably democratic way. Ok Hyderabad does it, Chennai does, so what? So what man? You are taking this issue to such an extent as to start another deluge of OT posts.
Please calm down. Even I was with him on this one.
Tell me onething everybody. What happens if your mail account gets infected by viruses of the sort that keep sending mails to all the addresses in our address book. Its theoretically all right to talk about how one should not give around his ID, blah, blah.... But in such a case you are realy the victim and not the transgressor.
I guess we're quite sure that a virus hasn't infected his account. And I guess most / all people here are using linux so the possibility of what you suggest is almost 0. I'm just kidding ;). I guess I sorta agree that hes a victim but not really in this case :P
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