Hey,

Well the demand v/s supply loop is in employers favour these days, especially when large lay off happening there is experienced labour available at realistic valuation, I dont find anything new here, also a freshers salary when I started was 2500/- and I believe that n ideal fresher salary is between 6.5k - 9k depending on skills etc...

Look at this equation turned around a bit, if u had exp of 1+ year your immediate aim would be to jump, just exactly what one would do in booming market where talent pool is less n an exp person is available you would find more buyers for ur services v/s freshers and can/will want a hike in ur pay( during booming times people expectation went as high as 100-200% pay hike over their past salaries)

Any ways the circle is viscous, for a minute step into employers shoe and think, you shall know the exploitation is happening the other way round, where customers are asking lower cost services and employees asking pay hikeups. On top of it Govt wants 50% + in direct/indirect taxation.

Net net consider urself lucky if u landup in a job coz u r now in competition with a seriously experieced crowd who is laid off or about to get laid off, n employers want to place their bet on the horse who has experience to win then on a new candidate.

Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), http://www.enterux.com/

On 10-Jan-09, at 11:05, Rock Buddy rocklinbud@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi all,

I am a newbie here. I wonder if this is the right place to raise this query. I wish to know how does RHCE certification really helps. I am RHCE myself. The classes don't really help much beyond the scope of the exam and the hands on experience one can get is when some employer is willing to accept a fresher. In recent times, I noticed the trend asking for minimum 6months of Linux experience. I remember the time when RHCE certified professionals were in short supply but with the word spreading fast there is a glut and that, coupled with recession has taken a toll on how much an RHCE certified guy earns. There are some who earn as Rs 7000 to 8000 PM. Are the times indeed so bad or the companies are just exploiting?

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On Saturday 10 January 2009 11:05, Rock Buddy wrote:

Hi all,

I am a newbie here. I wonder if this is the right place to raise this query. I wish to know how does RHCE certification really helps. I am RHCE myself. The classes don't really help much beyond the scope of the exam and the hands on experience one can get is when some employer is willing to accept a fresher. In recent times, I noticed the trend asking for minimum 6months of Linux experience. I remember the time when RHCE certified professionals were in short supply but with the word spreading fast there is a glut and that, coupled with recession has taken a toll on how much an RHCE certified guy earns. There are some who earn as Rs 7000 to 8000 PM. Are the times indeed so bad or the companies are just exploiting?

Please separate your question from the rambling. 1) Do you wish to know how RHCE helps? Or the philosophic question about times and exploitation?

1) RHCE helps in others knowing that you have a certain minimal skill set. I would rate it as L1 support on linux. If you really want to learn GNU/Linux you have no alternative other than installing and playing with it. Choosing an area of computing / software in which you want to excel would be a good first step.

2) Are times bad? they always are as good /bad as you make it out to be. IMNHO do not search for the pot, you will miss the rainbow. If you can afford 2 square meals, have two pairs of clothes and a place to live (other than the jail ), you should be over the moon with happiness. I forget - and a PC with GNU/Linux and net connectivity

3) exploitation - depends on wether you are looking ahead or behind.