Hi,
Scenario: I have one RHEL 5.5 machine (Name A), connected with RHN with proper credentials. I also have 2 more servers (B & C) installed with RHEL 4.6 & 5.1 with no connection to RHN and dont have credentials to connect.
Now can I set such a way that B & C will take updates from A ? For that what I things I have to configure?
Regards Neelesh Gurjar
2011/1/10 neel neel.hjs@gmail.com:
Scenario: I have one RHEL 5.5 machine (Name A), connected with RHN with proper credentials. I also have 2 more servers (B & C) installed with RHEL 4.6 & 5.1 with no connection to RHN and dont have credentials to connect.
Now can I set such a way that B & C will take updates from A ? For that what I things I have to configure?
If you have paid for support of B & C, you can. Otherwise, you are in violation of Redhat's service agreement.
Binand
Scenario: I have one RHEL 5.5 machine (Name A), connected with RHN with proper credentials. I also have 2 more servers (B & C) installed with RHEL 4.6 & 5.1 with no connection to RHN and dont have credentials to connect.
Now can I set such a way that B & C will take updates from A ? For that what I things I have to configure?
Is that legal ? Besides your server B is 4.6 while A and C are 5.*
On 01/10/2011 01:26 PM, neel wrote:
Hi,
Scenario: I have one RHEL 5.5 machine (Name A), connected with RHN with proper credentials. I also have 2 more servers (B& C) installed with RHEL 4.6& 5.1 with no connection to RHN and dont have credentials to connect.
Now can I set such a way that B& C will take updates from A ? For that what I things I have to configure?
You may use spacewalk [1] or buy the Red Hat supported Satellite server subscription [2] but that's a huge overkill (as well as costly affair, IIRC) for a small number of systems.
Note that, you do need the RHEL subscriptions for all systems you wish to update using spacewalk/satellite.
cheers, - steve
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/ [2] http://www.redhat.com/red_hat_network/ http://www.redhat.com/red_hat_network/deploydetail/
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/ [2] http://www.redhat.com/red_hat_network/ http://www.redhat.com/red_hat_network/deploydetail/
Is it against redhat licence if I download the packages and setup my own yum repo too . Which can be then used to update my other systems.
Derwyn
On 01/10/2011 03:03 PM, Derwyn Dpenha wrote:
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/ [2] http://www.redhat.com/red_hat_network/ http://www.redhat.com/red_hat_network/deploydetail/
Is it against redhat licence if I download the packages and setup my own yum repo too . Which can be then used to update my other systems.
IANAL, but yes I suppose it would be, since your yum repo would be redistributing RHEL binaries which is not legal.
cheers, - steve
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:48 PM, steve steve@lonetwin.net wrote:
IANAL, but yes I suppose it would be, since your yum repo would be redistributing RHEL binaries which is not legal.
Not sure if that is correct. Couple of minutes of googling suggests Red
hat is available for download Free of Cost.
http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/
You have to pay if you want Red Hat to support it. And that is reasonable.
-Shamit
On 01/10/2011 05:01 PM, Shamit Verma wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:48 PM, stevesteve@lonetwin.net wrote:
IANAL, but yes I suppose it would be, since your yum repo would be redistributing RHEL binaries which is not legal.
Not sure if that is correct. Couple of minutes of googling suggests Red
hat is available for download Free of Cost.
http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/
You have to pay if you want Red Hat to support it. And that is reasonable.
Yep, the binaries are available free of cost but you may not re-distribute them.
cheers, - steve
2011/1/10 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
IANAL, but yes I suppose it would be, since your yum repo would be redistributing RHEL binaries which is not legal.
Not sure if that is correct. Couple of minutes of googling suggests Red
hat is available for download Free of Cost.
Yes. Obviously all the software Redhat distributes is open source, so you do have access to the source code. If you visit the link you pasted, you'll see that they contain only the SRPMs. You need to setup a Redhat build system to build the binary RPMs from these SRPMs. This is what projects like CentOS do.
You also should be aware that you are allowed to use the Redhat trademark only on systems that are entitled to it (ie, systems that pay for Redhat support).
If you do not intend to pay Redhat, it is more convenient and desirable to use a community distribution like CentOS.
Binand
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.comwrote:
If you do not intend to pay Redhat, it is more convenient and desirable to use a community distribution like CentOS.
In my experience, Red hat as a distro has better hardware support for servers. For example, it came with optimized Kernels for IBM LS20 out of box (These blades had Clock Skew issue with 2 CPUs that needs few tweaks).
In my opinion, if someone is using standerd blade servers from IBM/HP/Dell, it makes sense to use Red Hat, other wise it does not bring much value to table and as you mentioned someone might use a community distro as well.
-Shamit
In my experience, Red hat as a distro has better hardware support for servers. For example, it came with optimized Kernels for IBM LS20 out of box (These blades had Clock Skew issue with 2 CPUs that needs few tweaks).
Actually if you look at banking/ finance sector and any company that is going in for certification one of the criteria states that you need to have a licence OS.
And no redhat with it's redhat 6 is a 2.6.32 kernel which has module support for hw. I'm sure if you can get a latest stable kernel and/or compile the modules yourself you should be good to go.
Derwyn
2011/1/11 Derwyn Dpenha derwynd@gmail.com:
Actually if you look at banking/ finance sector and any company that is going in for certification one of the criteria states that you need to have a licence OS.
What does that even mean? Even if you build the whole shebang from scratch, it is still licensed, since the various open-source licenses (GPL/LGPL, Apache, Mozilla, BSD...) are valid, enforceable licenses.
I think you mean "...you need to have a supported OS" - in which case, it is sufficient to support it in-house and not rely on third-party vendors & support providers. Linux allows banks to follow this path (and I believe HSBC actually does this).
Binand
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Derwyn Dpenha derwynd@gmail.com wrote:
Actually if you look at banking/ finance sector and any company that is going in for certification one of the criteria states that you need to have a licence OS.
What is a licensed OS? Pretty Slackware/Ubuntu/Debian all are licensed ( GPL License ).
And no redhat with it's redhat 6 is a 2.6.32 kernel which has module
support for hw. I'm sure if you can get a latest stable kernel and/or compile the modules yourself you should be good to go.
Point of using Red Hat is to save efforts on building (and maintaining) OS
images for various host families. An enterprise would typically have blades + SAN hardware from multiple vendors. If you want to compile kernel and packages yourself, then LFS (Linux From Scratch) is not that bad a choice :) .
-Shamit
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