hi
i do appreciate your prompt reply about this mail but you didnt pick my word I am well aware about SAMBA but things which I am looking for is just install one protocol and u r through.
You dont have to configure any thing. You tell me how much configuration is involved in getting SAMBA up I know it. how can you aspect one dum user of windows network to do all this configuration.
So I am in search of one protocol which will help me to minimize this hard efforts and your desktop is on highway straight-away
nici
From: Philip S Tellis philip.tellis@iname.com Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] To be a part of the game you have to play game Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:36:58 +0530 (IST)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, nici bhatt wrote:
so first what i am looking for is protocol the way we look entire network in win95/win98/w2k that is uses netbui protocol if you remove this and you will see nothing so is there anybody who can contribute to this development on linux where by you can easily plug your desktop in this kind of protocol and look around full network.
It's called SaMBa, and there's a client called Linneighbourhood that acts like network neighbourhood in windows. Allows you to brows the entire windows network, as well as other samba servers. Needs a little more work though.
i know this will not help much because your file system will be different so it's of no help but still this can help us to the protocol level where all services talking to each other in windows network and you have that, then your work is much simple to push the desktop in this kind of network. We can work out at file system level at second stage.
It has nothing to do with your filesystem. Over the network, there is no filesystem. Samba takes care of everything.
Philip
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, nici bhatt wrote:
i do appreciate your prompt reply about this mail but you didnt pick my word I am well aware about SAMBA but things which I am looking for is just install one protocol and u r through.
Please first try LinNeighborhood. And current distros don't require any samba configuration. I'm using it out of the box without even reading the configuration file or anything. I just installed LinNeighborhood, and voila, I can see the entire windows network, and browse it like it were local.
Philip
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--- nici bhatt nici_bom@hotmail.com wrote:
hi
i do appreciate your prompt reply about this mail but you didn�t pick my word I am well aware about �SAMBA� but things which I am looking for is just install one protocol and u r through.
A protocol is a standard method for two computers to exchange information. TCP/IP is one such protocol, which enjoys universal support. However, using TCP/IP means a certain amount of configuration in terms of setting IP addresses, etc.
You don�t have to configure any thing. You tell me how much configuration is involved in getting �SAMBA� up I know it. how can you aspect one dum user of windows network to do all this configuration.
Yes, but NetBEUI is severely limited. It is not routable, so you cannot subnet large NetBEUI networks. Even Micro$oft has now moved to IP networks because of these limitations.
So I am in search of one protocol which will help me to minimize this hard efforts and your desktop is on highway straight-away
I therefore believe that it would not be a very useful thing to create a NetBEUI support layer for UNIX/ Linux, since it is not very widely used any more. Very small networks may still apply NetBEUI, but that is about it.
It's called SaMBa, and there's a client called
Linneighbourhood that
acts like network neighbourhood in windows. Allows
you to brows the
entire windows network, as well as other samba
servers. Needs a little
more work though.
The configuration effort involved is small when you look at the results. "A little more work" is apt - the Samba config file is simple enough for anyone with a basic idea of LanMan/ NT networking to configure.
It has nothing to do with your filesystem. Over
the network, there is
no filesystem. Samba takes care of everything.
Philip
To amplify on Philip's point, the "filesystem" is SMB, which is what is the ultimate arbiter of browsing a Windows networks, whether over NetBEUI or IP. Thus, the only advantage NetBEUI has is its lack of configurability and transportability, which is in fact its biggest drawback.
Rgds,
Krishnan
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:30:32AM +0000, nici bhatt wrote:
So I am in search of one protocol which will help me to minimize this hard efforts and your desktop is on highway straight-away
NO protocol will help you do that. It's only the applications which can make lives easier.
So, what you are looking for is not a new protocol, but some application.
So, see how you can make the best use of tools like, SWAT, Lineighborhood(?), and some nice programming in shell/perl/python etc.
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