Hello,
Im using MTNL's Triband service for accessing the Internet at home . I have never requested a static ip address from MTNL, however whenever im connected to the Internet, I see that my ip address is constant , something like 192.168.1.x , where x is the same all the time.I am new to networking and stuff so please excuse me if my questions sound a bit noobish :)
Ok,so i have the following two questions :
1) Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why does it stay the same all the time ?
2) If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
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On Nov 10, 2007 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur amn_mthr@yahoo.com wrote:
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why
does it stay the same all the time ?
What you are seeing (192.168.1.x) is your LAN IP address not WAN IP. If you want to see your WAN IP then go here: http://whatsmyip.org
Your LAN IP can actually be anything you choose it to be, provided that it can use your ADSL router as a gateway. By default, your router is configured with an internal IP (the interface facing your system) as 192.168.1.1. Hence, if you use DHCP, your IP address comes up as 192.168.1.x.
- If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the
internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
You'll need either a static IP address or a dynamic DNS service (dyndns.org). Also, you'll have to configure your DSL router to allow traffic on port 80 (or any other port you wish to open for http).
On Sunday 11 November 2007 01:53, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On Nov 10, 2007 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur amn_mthr@yahoo.com wrote:
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not ,
then why does it stay the same all the time ?
What you are seeing (192.168.1.x) is your LAN IP address not WAN IP. If you want to see your WAN IP then go here: http://whatsmyip.org
or telnet 192.168.1.1 login admin password admin ifconfig ppp0
that will tell you your internet ip.
On Nov 14, 2007 12:45 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Sunday 11 November 2007 01:53, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On Nov 10, 2007 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur amn_mthr@yahoo.com wrote:
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not ,
then why does it stay the same all the time ?
What you are seeing (192.168.1.x) is your LAN IP address not WAN IP. If you want to see your WAN IP then go here: http://whatsmyip.org
or telnet 192.168.1.1 login admin password admin ifconfig ppp0
that will tell you your internet ip.
-- Rgds JTD
i fail to understand why SO MANY of them do not bother changing their default admin password. Even now, you can just randomly try connecting to MTNL IP addresses (determine them from your mtnl ip address) and in a lot of cases the login box will pop up and in most cases the default password would still be active.
On 14-Nov-07, at 2:43 PM, Abhishek Daga wrote:
i fail to understand why SO MANY of them do not bother changing their default admin password.
generally people never read instructions. For example they join mailing lists and do not check the rules and then wonder why people flame them for bottom posting. It is just human nature
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 14:43, Abhishek Daga wrote:
i fail to understand why SO MANY of them do not bother changing their default admin password. Even now, you can just randomly try connecting to MTNL IP addresses (determine them from your mtnl ip address) and in a lot of cases the login box will pop up and in most cases the default password would still be active.
Cause the mtnl triband specialist skips in every few weeks to resolve your plaint and presses reset which will reset all your settings to the factory default, leaving you wide open to everything on the web.
On Nov 14, 2007 3:08 PM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 14:43, Abhishek Daga wrote:
i fail to understand why SO MANY of them do not bother changing their default admin password. Even now, you can just randomly try connecting to MTNL IP addresses (determine them from your mtnl ip address) and in a lot of cases the login box will pop up and in most cases the default password would still be active.
Cause the mtnl triband specialist skips in every few weeks to resolve your plaint and presses reset which will reset all your settings to the factory default, leaving you wide open to everything on the web.
--
Rgds JTD --
But just as you need to enter the account number/password (to connect via PPPOE), to get it going, they should also make sure that you cannot proceed till you have changed the default password for the router.
Another place where users are careless are with their wireless networks. unsecure networks free-for-all. But I am not complaining.
-abhishek
On Nov 10, 2007 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur amn_mthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello,
Im using MTNL's Triband service for accessing the Internet at home . I have never requested a static ip address from MTNL, however whenever im connected to the Internet, I see that my ip address is constant , something like 192.168.1.x , where x is the same all the time.I am new to networking and stuff so please excuse me if my questions sound a bit noobish :)
Ok,so i have the following two questions :
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why
does it stay the same all the time ?
The same IP address is available from the pool each time, I guess.
- If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the
internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
Could this help? http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_setup_a_public_server_using_the...
Regards, Mohan S N
On 11/10/07, Aman Mathur amn_mthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello,
Im using MTNL's Triband service for accessing the Internet at home . I have never requested a static ip address from MTNL, however whenever im connected to the Internet, I see that my ip address is constant , something like 192.168.1.x , where x is the same all the time.I am new to networking and stuff so please excuse me if my questions sound a bit noobish :)
Ok,so i have the following two questions :
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why
does it stay the same all the time ?
- If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the
internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
Thanks a lot :)
Hey buddy, listen up. Learn about TCP / IP. Learn about how routing is done. Learn about the different class of IPs there are out there in the wild wild wild internet :P
After you do that, you'll probably understand what I'm about to say.
Your machine is in the "private" section of the internet. ( Learn about Private IPs ). For your machine to host a server you need the following things:
1. Public IP 2. Server Port should be open
With TriBand you already have a Public IP. But theres a problem. Here is how your machine connects to the internet:
Internet ( A ) ------> TriBand router ( B ) -----> Your M/C ( C )
Now the problem is C has a private IP assigned by B. B has a public IP assigned by MTNL. So how is C able to talk to the internet? Its because B NATs C. With NATing C is able to make outgoing connections but nobody can directly make a connection back to C. Why? Simply because B is in the way :P
But you need to make C accessible from the outside world so that your server will be reachable. How is that done? Two methods:
1. DMZ ( Demilitarized Zone ) 2. Port forwarding 3. Bridge mode your MTNL router
( I think even Virtual server would also work )
With 1 & 2, certain packets arriving at B will be forwarded to C transparently. With 3, your router will be just "bridge".
With all the 3 methods, your machine will be visible to the outside world or atleast port 80 will be accessible ( incase of portforwarding ).
Next comes the DNS. This is plain and simple. For people with dynamic IPs you need to register with dyndns or similar Dynamic DNS Provider. You need to install the their client to keep your IP updated with them.
For static IPs, its as simple as setting up the DNS once :)
Now I do understand that you may not have understand most things I wrote in the reply. But that is where your effort comes in. Do search for NAT, TCP, IP, Routing, DMZ, Portforwarding, etc.. etc...
On 10-Nov-07, at 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur wrote:
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why
does it stay the same all the time ?
In the first place, please put a meaningful subject line - this is not a Triband Query, it is a question of hosting a website with a dynamic IP. You do not have a static IP. The router you use has an internal IP - 192.168.1.x or something, and you are on the same lan as that. So your IP is also 192.168.1.y. The router has an external IP which will change each time you reconnect to the net.
- If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the
internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
If you do port forwarding, your site will appear on the dynamic IP you have got. Which means that the IP of your site will change everytime you reconnect. Which means that you cannot host a domain on the site since no dns service will service a dynamic domain. You would probably also get the IP blacklisted for hosting on a dynamic ip. For your friends, you can do port forwarding and phone them to tell them which IP they need to go to.
On Nov 12, 2007 12:59 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
On 10-Nov-07, at 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur wrote:
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why
does it stay the same all the time ?
In the first place, please put a meaningful subject line - this is not a Triband Query, it is a question of hosting a website with a dynamic IP. You do not have a static IP. The router you use has an internal IP - 192.168.1.x or something, and you are on the same lan as that. So your IP is also 192.168.1.y. The router has an external IP which will change each time you reconnect to the net.
- If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the
internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
If you do port forwarding, your site will appear on the dynamic IP you have got. Which means that the IP of your site will change everytime you reconnect. Which means that you cannot host a domain on the site since no dns service will service a dynamic domain. You would probably also get the IP blacklisted for hosting on a dynamic ip. For your friends, you can do port forwarding and phone them to tell them which IP they need to go to.
Now, that is not entirely accurate. Hosting a site on a dynamic IP is not a problem at all. There are even a number of DNS Service Providers who will host your domain for you(The one that i Personally use is DynDNS, both the free x.dyndns.org zones and the paid x.com zones). The only place where you will have a problem is if you intend to run a Mail server. That will mean your IP will be blacklisted by other mail servers for being dynamic, and you will not be allowed to relay/forward any mail. But if all you want to do is host a website, go right ahead. get onto dyndns, and use a client like ddclient(if on fedora, available via yum, also available on other distros through the equivalent repositories i'm sure...) to keep it updated whenever your ip changes due to a re-connect. then your friends will only have to remember the name, and no matter what your ip is at the time, they can connect to your site, as long as your system is on, the net connection is up, and ddclient has updated the dynamic dns record. And Dont worry, AFAIK no-one will blacklist your site just because it's dynamic, and if they do, there will probably also be some other reasons behind it.
Regards Rajeev
-- regards
Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon@au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On 12-Nov-07, at 1:37 PM, Rajeev R. K. wrote:
ip. For your friends, you can do port forwarding and phone them to tell them which IP they need to go to.
Now, that is not entirely accurate. Hosting a site on a dynamic IP is not a problem at all. There are even a number of DNS Service Providers who will host your domain for you(The one that i Personally use is DynDNS, both the free x.dyndns.org zones and the paid x.com zones).
good to know - but what happens when you get a blacklisted IP from triband. I dont know about triband, but a good proportion of BSNL dynamic IPs are blacklisted.
Sometime on Monday 12 Nov 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves said:
good to know - but what happens when you get a blacklisted IP from triband. I dont know about triband, but a good proportion of BSNL dynamic IPs are blacklisted.
MTNL's dialup pool is blacklisted too. But later the static IP they assigned was luckily clean(could be a corner case though).
Anurag
On Monday 12 November 2007 21:27, Anurag wrote:
Sometime on Monday 12 Nov 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves said:
good to know - but what happens when you get a blacklisted IP from triband. I dont know about triband, but a good proportion of BSNL dynamic IPs are blacklisted.
MTNL's dialup pool is blacklisted too. But later the static IP they assigned was luckily clean(could be a corner case though).
It doesn't matter if you run a web server on a blacklisted IP since web browsers do not consult blacklists before accessing content. Mails servers do consult blacklists, so running a mail server for outgoing mail on a blacklisted IP is probably a bad idea.
Regards,
-- Raju
On 13-Nov-07, at 9:45 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
MTNL's dialup pool is blacklisted too. But later the static IP they assigned was luckily clean(could be a corner case though).
It doesn't matter if you run a web server on a blacklisted IP since web browsers do not consult blacklists before accessing content
I thought there was some google thingie or firefox thingie that did just this?
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 12-Nov-07, at 1:37 PM, Rajeev R. K. wrote:
ip. For your friends, you can do port forwarding and phone them to tell them which IP they need to go to.
Now, that is not entirely accurate. Hosting a site on a dynamic IP is not a problem at all. There are even a number of DNS Service Providers who will host your domain for you(The one that i Personally use is DynDNS, both the free x.dyndns.org zones and the paid x.com zones).
good to know - but what happens when you get a blacklisted IP from triband. I dont know about triband, but a good proportion of BSNL dynamic IPs are blacklisted.
Just to add an warning, Triband charges are with limit on the data-throughput that you will be allowed. eg. if you are on 199 plan, you are allowed 400MB data transfer free of cost. After that you pay Rs. 1.20 per MB. If you are hosting a website and it gets good traffic, each person coming to the site is costing you money, as the webserver will serve the page and Triband will count it as data transfer. If the site is heavy, with lots of pictures, etc, the cost goes up.
We have groupware software and CRM software hosting on webservers through triband connections. However, this is on a Cyber B plan costing Rs. 8000 per month and giving 12GB of data transfer per month, which we have not crossed so far. In this case, hosting the site inside the office makes sense as otherwise, 200+ local users will have to access the internet and will add to my bandwidth (plus speed loss) as compared to having 20 travelling employing it from outside the office.
It would make sense to figure out what is the actual cost of hosting the site.
Regards Saswata
On 11/14/07, Saswata Banerjee & Associates scrapo@saswatabanerjee.com wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 12-Nov-07, at 1:37 PM, Rajeev R. K. wrote:
ip. For your friends, you can do port forwarding and phone them to tell them which IP they need to go to.
Now, that is not entirely accurate. Hosting a site on a dynamic IP is not a problem at all. There are even a number of DNS Service Providers who will host your domain for you(The one that i Personally use is DynDNS, both the free x.dyndns.org zones and the paid x.com zones).
good to know - but what happens when you get a blacklisted IP from triband. I dont know about triband, but a good proportion of BSNL dynamic IPs are blacklisted.
Just to add an warning, Triband charges are with limit on the data-throughput that you will be allowed. eg. if you are on 199 plan, you are allowed 400MB data transfer free of cost. After that you pay Rs. 1.20 per MB.
n http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/triband/htm/tariff.htm I see no references to data transfer, just data download limits.
If you are hosting a website and it gets good traffic, each
Then page hits are uploads from your server(s), aren't they?
person coming to the site is costing you money, as the webserver will serve the page and Triband will count it as data transfer. If the site is heavy, with lots of pictures, etc, the cost goes up.
Am I missing out on something?
Regards, Mohan S N
On 14-Nov-07, at 10:41 PM, Mohan Nayaka wrote:
data-throughput that you will be allowed. eg. if you are on 199 plan, you are allowed 400MB data transfer free of cost. After that you pay Rs. 1.20 per MB.
n http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/triband/htm/tariff.htm I see no references to data transfer, just data download limits.
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies, they would not be able to understand what data transfer means, so they use the word 'download'. This also covers all the stuff they upload to flickr
On Thursday 15 November 2007 06:02, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies, they would not be able to understand what data transfer means, so they use the word 'download'. This also covers all the stuff they upload to flickr
and all the stuff the official and unofficial trojans keep sending.
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies,
What has the understanding of download or transfer got to do with use of Windows? Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?
On 15-Nov-07, at 9:06 PM, Rony wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies,
What has the understanding of download or transfer got to do with use of Windows? Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?
check out the meaning of 'dumbing down'
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 15-Nov-07, at 9:06 PM, Rony wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies,
What has the understanding of download or transfer got to do with use of Windows? Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?
check out the meaning of 'dumbing down'
Well, out of all the Linux users on the list, it was a Windows user who found the correct information.
On 17-Nov-07, at 9:57 PM, Rony wrote:
check out the meaning of 'dumbing down'
Well, out of all the Linux users on the list, it was a Windows user who found the correct information.
who?
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:06, Rony wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies,
What has the understanding of download or transfer got to do with use of Windows?
Absolutely nothing. Which is exactly the point. .
Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?
but doze has a thorough misunderstanding of most computing concepts, let alone something as important as networking, with HMBG declaring that networking and the internet was a stupid scheme. Ofcourse that did not prevent him from innovative usurping of the bsd network stack, kerberos, CPM, DEC stuff etc etc etc. and then shelling out piddling sums to the original companies he gypped.
jtd wrote:
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:06, Rony wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies,
What has the understanding of download or transfer got to do with use of Windows?
Absolutely nothing. Which is exactly the point.
What is your point?
.
Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?
but doze has a thorough misunderstanding of most computing concepts, let alone something as important as networking, with HMBG declaring that networking and the internet was a stupid scheme. Ofcourse that did not prevent him from innovative usurping of the bsd network stack, kerberos, CPM, DEC stuff etc etc etc. and then shelling out piddling sums to the original companies he gypped.
That has nothing to do with the question raised about download or data transfer for MTNL's triband.
On Saturday 17 November 2007 21:57, Rony wrote:
jtd wrote:
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:06, Rony wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
it is actually data transfer - since most users are clueless doze weenies,
What has the understanding of download or transfer got to do with use of Windows?
Absolutely nothing. Which is exactly the point.
What is your point?
It's like driving a car without knowing road rules.
.
Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?
but doze has a thorough misunderstanding of most computing concepts, let alone something as important as networking, with HMBG declaring that networking and the internet was a stupid scheme. Ofcourse that did not prevent him from innovative usurping of the bsd network stack, kerberos, CPM, DEC stuff etc etc etc. and then shelling out piddling sums to the original companies he gypped.
That has nothing to do with the question raised about download or data transfer for MTNL's triband.
Eh? I thought you were talking of linux v/s windows concepts.
It takes quite a bit of understanding of a very complex set of technologies to understand how u are being shafted at every instance.
http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-intel-giveth-microsoft-taketh-away...
The above url does not touch upon networking which has even more interdependencies.
So what has "download" got to do with doze users? nothing if you dont know and quite a bit if u do.
On Monday 19 November 2007 20:29, Rony wrote:
jtd wrote:
Eh? I thought you were talking of linux v/s windows concepts.
Please go through the thread again.
Read your posts before posting.
" Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?"
jtd wrote:
On Monday 19 November 2007 20:29, Rony wrote:
jtd wrote:
Eh? I thought you were talking of linux v/s windows concepts.
Please go through the thread again.
Read your posts before posting.
" Does GNU/Linux use principles different from common networking concepts?"
Read the original posting that got the above reply.
Mohan Nayaka wrote:
n http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/triband/htm/tariff.htm I see no references to data transfer, just data download limits.
This link should answer your queries.
http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/triband/htm/tri_faq.htm
On Thursday 15 November 2007 21:27, Rony wrote:
Mohan Nayaka wrote:
n http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/triband/htm/tariff.htm I see no references to data transfer, just data download limits.
This link should answer your queries.
Interesting, a FAQ from a Babu-ridden bureaucracy that actually makes sense and answers FAQs meaningfully. Apart from the implicit assumption that you would use only O*tl**k to read mail, I'm impressed.
BTW, it states quite clearly that uploads aren't counted in your traffic stats, so running a web server on your MTNL connection shouldn't cause you to pay much in terms of additional traffic. I'm sure MTNL will rectify this oversight, but then I'm also sure it won't take them less than a year to modify their traffic tracking application :)
BTW we lucky sods in Delhi have unlimited 'net access from MTNL:
http://delhi.mtnl.net.in/commercial/broadband_tariff.htm
look at #12 (TriB unlimited) -- that's what I'm using.
Regards,
-- Raju
Raj Mathur wrote:
BTW, it states quite clearly that uploads aren't counted in your traffic stats, so running a web server on your MTNL connection shouldn't cause you to pay much in terms of additional traffic. I'm sure MTNL will rectify this oversight, but then I'm also sure it won't take them less than a year to modify their traffic tracking application :)
As per the MTNL docs, ADSL is designed to have a lot of bandwidth dedicated to downloads and very little for uploads. So running web services may not be that effective in case of heavy traffic.
On 17-Nov-07, at 9:58 PM, Rony wrote:
BTW, it states quite clearly that uploads aren't counted in your traffic stats, so running a web server on your MTNL connection shouldn't cause you to pay much in terms of additional traffic. I'm sure MTNL will rectify this oversight, but then I'm also sure it won't take them less than a year to modify their traffic tracking application :)
As per the MTNL docs, ADSL is designed to have a lot of bandwidth dedicated to downloads and very little for uploads. So running web services may not be that effective in case of heavy traffic.
i have serious doubts as to whether uploads are not calculated. BSNL counts uploads also. I have a feeling that the person who wrote the FAQ was told that uploads are negligible compared to downloads and that they would not substantially affect the billing and he translated this to mean that uploads are not billed. This is easily solved by uploading a big chunk of stuff and seeing if it is billed.
On Sunday 18 Nov 2007 07:16:33 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
i have serious doubts as to whether uploads are not calculated. BSNL counts uploads also.
Transferred over 400MB over scp to a friend of mine during daytime, ie, paid hours. None of it reflected in my traffic count. I'm on the NU plan btw.
On 18-Nov-07, at 12:25 PM, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
i have serious doubts as to whether uploads are not calculated. BSNL counts uploads also.
Transferred over 400MB over scp to a friend of mine during daytime, ie, paid hours. None of it reflected in my traffic count. I'm on the NU plan btw
question answered. (by a non-windows guy)
On Sunday 18 November 2007 12:25, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Sunday 18 Nov 2007 07:16:33 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
i have serious doubts as to whether uploads are not calculated. BSNL counts uploads also.
Transferred over 400MB over scp to a friend of mine during daytime, ie, paid hours. None of it reflected in my traffic count. I'm on the NU plan btw.
Not so fast. Wait for sometime for the server stats to update. Rest assured both sides are billed - u for upload, your friend for download - atleast when i checked 8 or 9 months ago..
On Monday 19 Nov 2007 10:38:34 jtd wrote:
On Sunday 18 November 2007 12:25, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Sunday 18 Nov 2007 07:16:33 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
i have serious doubts as to whether uploads are not calculated. BSNL counts uploads also.
Transferred over 400MB over scp to a friend of mine during daytime, ie, paid hours. None of it reflected in my traffic count. I'm on the NU plan btw.
Not so fast. Wait for sometime for the server stats to update. Rest assured both sides are billed - u for upload, your friend for download - atleast when i checked 8 or 9 months ago..
FYI, that happened two months ago. I was _not_ billed.
I do have a brain in a good, working condition; you know.
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 21:37, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Monday 19 Nov 2007 10:38:34 jtd wrote:
On Sunday 18 November 2007 12:25, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Sunday 18 Nov 2007 07:16:33 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
i have serious doubts as to whether uploads are not calculated. BSNL counts uploads also.
Not so fast. Wait for sometime for the server stats to update. Rest assured both sides are billed - u for upload, your friend for download - atleast when i checked 8 or 9 months ago..
FYI, that happened two months ago. I was _not_ billed.
I do have a brain in a good, working condition; you know.
One never knows if that is an asset or liability dealing with mtnl ;-).
Looks like no bill for upload yipee...
On 11/20/07, jtd wrote:
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 21:37, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Monday 19 Nov 2007 10:38:34 jtd wrote:
Not so fast. Wait for sometime for the server stats to update. Rest assured both sides are billed - u for upload, your friend for download - atleast when i checked 8 or 9 months ago..
FYI, that happened two months ago. I was _not_ billed.
I do have a brain in a good, working condition; you know.
One never knows if that is an asset or liability dealing with mtnl ;-).
Looks like no bill for upload yipee...
I'm not beating the dead horse here but I'd like to back up Mrugesh. I've uploaded ~25G. No a single bit has been charged :P And yeah yippeee.....no bill for uploads :P But uploads consume a _not_so_tiny_ amount of downloads too.... ~5MB per hour for around 70-80MB of uploads per hour.
On 20-Nov-07, at 9:37 PM, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
Not so fast. Wait for sometime for the server stats to update. Rest assured both sides are billed - u for upload, your friend for download - atleast when i checked 8 or 9 months ago..
FYI, that happened two months ago. I was _not_ billed.
he did not say you were billed - some other guy called 'u' would have been billed ;-)
On Nov 12, 2007 12:59 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
On 10-Nov-07, at 7:28 PM, Aman Mathur wrote:
- Is this ip address of mine a static ip address ?. If not , then why
does it stay the same all the time ?
In the first place, please put a meaningful subject line - this is not a Triband Query, it is a question of hosting a website with a dynamic IP. You do not have a static IP. The router you use has an internal IP - 192.168.1.x or something, and you are on the same lan as that. So your IP is also 192.168.1.y. The router has an external IP which will change each time you reconnect to the net.
- If I want to host my website on my computer which anyone on the
internet can access, how do i go about it ? . I have some basic idea of port forwarding and read some of the tutes on www.portforward.com, which were really informative, but im still not sure how i can host a website on my computer which anyone can access.
If you do port forwarding, your site will appear on the dynamic IP you have got. Which means that the IP of your site will change everytime you reconnect. Which means that you cannot host a domain on the site since no dns service will service a dynamic domain. You would probably also get the IP blacklisted for hosting on a dynamic ip. For your friends, you can do port forwarding and phone them to tell them which IP they need to go to.
It takes Rs. 1000/year for a static IP. Well worth it given the headaches or unreliability of dyndns updating your ip address.
Also, the time taken to write a script which will determine your assigned ip, and email you if that ip has changed will definitely cost more than 1000.
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