Hi all, My name is Prashant Parab and a new member of this group. For last few days I am reading the postings regarding meeting at ruparel college. Will u kindly tell me what these meetings are all about?
Thanx and regards,
Prashant
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- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Pankaj Jangid)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Philip S Tellis)
- Re: Venue for the Meeting on 2nd (Philip S Tellis)
- re:cable modem (Girish Hanchate)
- Re: When is the meeting? (quasi)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta)
- Re: When is the meeting? (Philip S Tellis)
- Re: When is the meeting? (Amish Munshi)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Saswata Banerjee
& Associates)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Pankaj Jangid)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Bhargav Bhatt)
- Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Philip S Tellis)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:09:55 +0530 From: Apurva Mehta apurva@gmx.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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On 28 Jan 2003 19:38:17 +0530 Pankaj Jangid pankaj@ncst.ernet.in wrote:
This last parameter (CONFIG_APM_REAL_POWER_OFF=y) should be set to 'y'.
Thanks, I will try that out..
Audio CD's can't be mounted.
Are you sure about that? I am sure that I could mount and rip audio cd's when using the default 2.4.7-10 kernel. Now, grip does not even detect the cd.
This is my personal opinion. I think if you are not adding modules frequently for new hardware you should make it a single a.out binary. Because it doesn't make much difference in size. Also this strategy will save time which is taken while loading on demand.
I feel the same way, but since I am relatively new at this, I thought it would be wiser to ask..
PS: where can I get your PGP public key?
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Message: 2 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. From: Pankaj Jangid pankaj@ncst.ernet.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: 28 Jan 2003 21:04:43 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 20:09, Apurva Mehta wrote:
Are you sure about that? I am sure that I could mount and rip audio cd's when using the default 2.4.7-10 kernel. Now, grip does not even detect the cd. =20
I use ripperx and I don't mount audio CD. If you are saying that you have mounted earliar then there must be a filesystem type which was earlier compiled with your kernel but now its not. =20
PS: where can I get your PGP public key? =20
http://yuga.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:12:11 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in To: ilug-bom linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Apurva Mehta wrote:
- My system does not turn off automatically after issuing the powerdown
command.. I have to turn it of manually. Earlier, with the RH 7.2 default kernel (2.4.7-10), the power would switch off automatically. Here are the how the relevant variables are set : CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m
you have apm compiled as a module. in order for the system to switch off, you'll have to have the apm module loaded at powerdown time.
I'm not quite sure of the best way to do this, but maybe changing powerdown to a script that first calls /sbin/modprobe apm will work.
The other alternative is to compile APM into your kernel.
- I cannot mount audio cd's anymore. I can play them through gtcd, I
anymore? you mean you could mount them before?
just cannot rip them.. The mount command tells me that I got a bad fs
audio cds don't have a file system - hence you cannot mount them. one doesn't mount drives, one mounts file systems that happen to be on those drives.
Also, what is a good strategy to follow while compiling a kernel? Is it better to make as many modules as possible or the other way round?
if there's something that's going to be needed all the time, it makes sense to compile it into the kernel. if there's something that's needed to boot up the sytem - it has to be in the kernel.
these would include your hard disk driver, your file system driver and the binary executable driver - for most people this would be ide, ext2/ext3 and elf binaries. everything else can be compiled as a module, but see the help for each module for specific issues.
Are there any particular features which would be better off as part of the kernel image rather than as modules? Currently, I have compiled
put unix domain sockets into your kernel. it's needed to run syslog - which is run at startup. if you don't compile it into the kernel, then when syslog tries to write to the log, the kernel will have to log a message saying that it could not find unix.o. To log this message, it needs unix.o. This will cause a loop, which will eventually be terminated, but why even bother with it...
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:13:42 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Venue for the Meeting on 2nd Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Nagarjuna G. wrote:
The venue for the meet has been fixed at Ruparel College. A formal
[snip]
The meeting starts at 3pm at Ruparel College.
which room?
-- Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look.
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:02:59 -0800 (PST) From: Girish Hanchate girishhan@yahoo.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] re:cable modem Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
Hi
Stop RIP service & just chk weather r getting same internet usage from linux.
rgds girish
Hi all I use cable modem for my mail seerver on linux Rh 7.0. setup uses squid ,sendmail ,fetchmail and ipchains and RIP. Now question is when i use WinXP For internet sharing only then my internet usage go up to 400MB and when same is replaced by above setup then it goes to 1 gb WHY so much of difference ? and let me know how to reduce this on linux ,all other services on linux r stopped . Wht do i do and is squid the reason? please mail me if possible... bye thnx in advance.
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Message: 6 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting? From: quasi abhijit@linmail.medialabasia.mine.nu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: 24 Jan 2003 16:37:46 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 01:07, Satya wrote:
On Jan 23, 2003 at 13:42, Amish Munshi wrote:
The meeting is on 2nd Feb, Ruparel College at 4:00 pm.
Where in Ruparel?
Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in the Northen direction). Get out on the western side. Ask someone... anyone. Walk 3-5 minutes. Lo, behold - Ruparel!!
-- quasi
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Message: 7 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:11:05 +0530 From: Apurva Mehta apurva@gmx.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:12:11 +0530 (IST) Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in wrote:
you have apm compiled as a module. in order for the system to switch off, you'll have to have the apm module loaded at powerdown time.
I'm not quite sure of the best way to do this, but maybe changing powerdown to a script that first calls /sbin/modprobe apm will work.
The other alternative is to compile APM into your kernel.
I tried executing /sbin/modprobe apm first and then poweroff from the command line. I did not work. Then I tried loading the apm module, loading the apm daemon and then executing the poweroff command. The system stopped responding after the message : Shutting down APM daemon .. [OK]
I had to do a cold poweroff..
anymore? you mean you could mount them before?
Yes, I could most definitely mount them before. Even my friend can mount them right now on his 2.4.20 kernel. After mounting he can list the contents of the cd (ie.. ls gives the output track1.cda etc..).
Also, as I mentioned previously, I could rip cd's which grip, but now it does not detect the cd's presence in the drive.
if there's something that's going to be needed all the time, it makes sense to compile it into the kernel. if there's something that's needed to boot up the sytem - it has to be in the kernel.
these would include your hard disk driver, your file system driver and
the binary executable driver - for most people this would be ide, ext2/ext3 and elf binaries. everything else can be compiled as a module, but see the help for each module for specific issues.
I have compiled a kernel with as few features as possible and most of the selected features are part of the image itself. I have left very few features (like national language support etc.. as modules. )
put unix domain sockets into your kernel. it's needed to run syslog -
which is run at startup. if you don't compile it into the kernel, then when syslog tries to write to the log, the kernel will have to log a message saying that it could not find unix.o. To log this message, it needs unix.o. This will cause a loop, which will eventually be terminated, but why even bother with it...
That is already part of my kernel..
Thanks for your time..
Regards,
Apurva Mehta
PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt
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Message: 8 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:57:06 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting? Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On 24 Jan 2003, quasi wrote:
Where in Ruparel?
Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in the Northen direction). Get out on the western side. Ask someone... anyone. Walk 3-5 minutes. Lo, behold - Ruparel!!
dude. you really have to stop working so much. maybe even get a pair of glasses... a TTS may not be a bad idea either.
Philip
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Message: 9 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:17:42 +0530 From: Amish Munshi amish_munshi@sify.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting? Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:37:46PM +0530, quasi wrote:
Where in Ruparel?
Please wait for a few days, the location withing Ruparel is not yet fixed.
Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in the Northen direction). Get out on the western side. Ask someone... anyone. Walk 3-5 minutes. Lo, behold - Ruparel!!
-- quasi
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Message: 10 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:13:13 +0530 From: Apurva Mehta apurva@gmx.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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Hi everyone, I am really sorry but I originally posted incorrect information about my problem here. I said that I could mount audio cd's at one point in time and that my friend can still do so now.
You'll doubted this, and your doubts have proven true. I cannot mount audio cd's and don't think I ever could. I just realized that while doing something totally unrelated. What can I say? I feel like a complete idiot :)
However, grip still does not work, although now it atleast reads the cd contents (there was something wrong with my config file). It does not rip.
Regards,
Apurva Mehta
PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt
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Message: 11 From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" scrap@saswatabanerjee.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:41:56 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
Hi Apurva
I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
instead
of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to open or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings
so
that the email comes as normal text message.
FYI, I am using Outlook Express on WinXP
Regards Saswata
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Message: 12 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. From: Pankaj Jangid pankaj@ncst.ernet.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Organization: National Centre for Software Technology Date: 30 Jan 2003 10:20:55 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 09:41, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
Hi Apurva =20 I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
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of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to
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or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings
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so
that the email comes as normal text message. =20 FYI, I am using Outlook Express on WinXP =20
Obviously you will face problems. Outlook use either old header formats or MS has there own standards for mail format.
I think all of us are getting mails properly. I also realized this problem when I was using mutt and my friend was using Outlook. --=20 Pankaj Jangid pankaj@ncst.ernet.in National Centre for Software Technology
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Message: 13 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:13:16 -0500 From: Bhargav Bhatt pi@bhargav.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Organization: Columbia University Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:41:56AM +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates
wrote:
I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
instead
of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to
open
or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings
so
that the email comes as normal text message.
I suspect you are having this problem with anyone who mails using
pgp-signed
messages. I know because I used to have the same problems with OE. Also,
did
we not already cover this once on the list in the recent past? (I might be wrong)
-- Bhargav Bhatt, Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, Columbia University. -- http://www.bhargav.com -- Sex and drugs? They're nothing compared with a good proof!
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Message: 14 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:49:29 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments instead of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first
He's sending his messages with a PGP signature. This is a Good Thing. IMO, any mail client that can't handle that is a mail client that needs to be replaced.
Philip
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Message: 15 From: "kavita modi" kavita.modi@in.iqara.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Cc: "ILUG-BOM" linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:58:16 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
Hello All,
I m using COMPAQ's DL320 server.'ve installed RHL7.2 with apache1.3.26,php4.2.2,freetds0.53 and Oracle8i. Php4.2.2 is installed for odbc,oracle,mysql,postgres,apache. But server has one problem.When m/c get rebooted after some days uptime,it doesnot bring eth0 up by stating that other host is having same ip. so,i have to change ip in eth0's ifconfig file.then only it comes up on network. so,what cud be the problem??? i think there's something wrong with NIC.bad NIC which doesnot release ip. or some network drivers problem??
Any suggestions are apprecitated. Thanks in advance.
Rgds, kavita
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Prashant wrote:
few days I am reading the postings regarding meeting at ruparel college. Will u kindly tell me what these meetings are all about?
[snip 15 messages from digest Vol 1 #794]
These meetings are generally for list members to discus stuff face to face. Also, someone might give a lecture on some topic.
We also take this opportunity to beat up people who post the day's digest in their mails with total disregard for list guidelines and other members' interests.
You're welcome to join us. There is no fee.
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