On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, nici bhatt wrote:

so first what i am looking for is protocol the way we look entire network in win95/win98/w2k that is uses netbui protocol if you remove this and you will see nothing so is there anybody who can contribute to this development on linux where by you can easily plug your desktop in this kind of protocol and look around full network.

It's called SaMBa, and there's a client called Linneighbourhood that acts like network neighbourhood in windows. Allows you to brows the entire windows network, as well as other samba servers. Needs a little more work though.

i know this will not help much because your file system will be different so it's of no help but still this can help us to the protocol level where all services talking to each other in windows network and you have that, then your work is much simple to push the desktop in this kind of network. We can work out at file system level at second stage.

It has nothing to do with your filesystem. Over the network, there is no filesystem. Samba takes care of everything.

Philip

Nici,

--- nici bhatt nici_bom@hotmail.com wrote:

my subject make's it more clear what my intension is. and that is if you want to push linux as major desktop os then you have to play the game the way your competitor play.

That is a debatable point, but you are correct at least as far as ordinary (non-power) users are concerned.

so first what i am looking for is protocol the way we look entire network in win95/win98/w2k that is uses netbui protocol if you remove this and you will see nothing so is there anybody who can contribute to this development on linux where by you can easily plug your desktop in this kind of protocol and look around full network.

I presume that what you are saying is that the NetBEUI protocol is what the various Windows OSes use to communicate. However, NetBEUI is a legacy (outdated) protocol that uses NetBIOS over a non-routable transport, and is deprecated. The only reason Win2K supports NetBEUI, if it does at all, is for legacy system support on the network.

Windows servers communicate using the SMB (Server Message Block) protocol, which till Win 9x/ NT was layered over NetBIOS over TCP/IP> However, I believe Win2K provides direct SMB support over TCP/IP.

i know this will not help much because your file system will be different so it's of no help but still this can help us to the protocol level where all services talking to each other in windows network and you have that, then your work is much simple to push the desktop in this kind of network. We can work out at file system level at second stage.

AFAIK, this has already been realized with the Samba project (http://samba.org). The Samba project provides a free GPL implemnetation of SMB and NetBIOS services on UNIX/ Linux boxen, which allows these systems to transparently provide a very large subset of Windows NT/ 2000 file and print server functionality to Windows client machines, including WINS support, et al. The latest iteration of Samba, with the Winbind additions, provides native Windows NT style domain authentication capabilities to Samba, or so I have read.

So is there anyone who can contribute to protocol level development or some one interested in such idiot work I know this sound�s like crazy idea but some how I faced this problem and I want to overcome this.

This should not be necessary, given the success of Samba.

HTH,

Krishnan

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