I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say).
When I called the helpdesk, they said what I need to do is release the ip from my machine and then renew it on my laptop. something like ipcfg release and then ipcfg renew. The guy obviously has no clue how to do it in linux.
What would be the equivalent in linux. I am using debian 5 and kubuntu 9.04 on the two machines.
Thanks,
Sharukh.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.net wrote:
I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say).
I do face this a lot of times too. I have tried to ask them many times as to the logic of the same and if they could disable it in my case. But, it all fell on deaf ears.
When I called the helpdesk, they said what I need to do is release the ip from my machine and then renew it on my laptop. something like ipcfg release and then ipcfg renew. The guy obviously has no clue how to do it in linux.
What would be the equivalent in linux. I am using debian 5 and kubuntu 9.04 on the two machines.
There would be quite a few ways. If you're using NetworkManager, disconnect from the wired connection or right click and disable networking. If you're using dhclient, you are looking at the -r switch dhclient -r eth0, for example. Here's the snippet from the manpage " The client normally doesn’t release the current lease as it is not required by the DHCP protocol. Some cable ISPs require their clients to notify the server if they wish to release an assigned IP address. The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits."
In case you want more specific help, you will need to let us know as to which tool you are using to connect.
<OffTopic> Have you received any message from Hathway asking about disclosure of wireless devices in your house, as per TRAI directive? </OffTopic>
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Mehul Ved wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.net wrote:
I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say).
I do face this a lot of times too. I have tried to ask them many times as to the logic of the same and if they could disable it in my case. But, it all fell on deaf ears.
When I called the helpdesk, they said what I need to do is release the ip from my machine and then renew it on my laptop. something like ipcfg release and then ipcfg renew. The guy obviously has no clue how to do it in linux.
What would be the equivalent in linux. I am using debian 5 and kubuntu 9.04 on the two machines.
There would be quite a few ways. If you're using NetworkManager, disconnect from the wired connection or right click and disable networking. If you're using dhclient, you are looking at the -r switch dhclient -r eth0, for example. Here's the snippet from the manpage " The client normally doesn?t release the current lease as it is not required by the DHCP protocol. Some cable ISPs require their clients to notify the server if they wish to release an assigned IP address. The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits."
In case you want more specific help, you will need to let us know as to which tool you are using to connect.
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
<OffTopic> Have you received any message from Hathway asking about disclosure of wireless devices in your house, as per TRAI directive? </OffTopic>
Not that I know of.
regards,
Sharukh.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.net wrote:
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
Best would be to use NetworkManager in this case, if you are on GNOME. It handles dhcp quite well.
What will i do, if i haven't installed the desktop like gnome / kde.
Regards, George John.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.net wrote:
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
Best would be to use NetworkManager in this case, if you are on GNOME. It handles dhcp quite well.
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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:30 AM, george@annamsoft.com wrote:
What will i do, if i haven't installed the desktop like gnome / kde.
I use dhclient for DHCP. Use that if you so prefer. There's also dhcpcd.
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
That is not possible. In your terminal type dhc and hit the tab key twice. You should get dhclient and dhclient2or3.
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Rony wrote:
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
That is not possible. In your terminal type dhc and hit the tab key twice. You should get dhclient and dhclient2or3.
did that before I sent my mail. not exactly a noob you know :)
thanks,
Sharukh.
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Rony wrote:
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
That is not possible. In your terminal type dhc and hit the tab key twice. You should get dhclient and dhclient2or3.
did that before I sent my mail. not exactly a noob you know :)
Do it as root. It is a part of Debian and Ubuntu by default unless you removed both of them (dhclient and dhclient2or3).
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Rony wrote:
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I am not using dhclient (don't even have it installed). In fact when I last installed linux on my machine, it didn't ask me for all the details for networking as in previous installs. So what is picking up the details even on a fresh install ?
That is not possible. In your terminal type dhc and hit the tab key twice. You should get dhclient and dhclient2or3.
did that before I sent my mail. not exactly a noob you know :)
Since I mainly use Debian 4 (Etch) just to be doubly sure, I checked out Debian 5 (Lenny) on my netbook as well as Kubuntu 9.04 live on my Desktop and both have dhclient and dhclient3 installed.
Mehul Ved wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.net wrote:
I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say).
I do face this a lot of times too. I have tried to ask them many times as to the logic of the same and if they could disable it in my case. But, it all fell on deaf ears.
When I called the helpdesk, they said what I need to do is release the ip from my machine and then renew it on my laptop. something like ipcfg release and then ipcfg renew. The guy obviously has no clue how to do it in linux.
What would be the equivalent in linux. I am using debian 5 and kubuntu 9.04 on the two machines.
For the non-believers.
http://www.techenclave.com/broadband-forum/hathway-on-laptop-and-desktop-com...
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say).
Hathway now uses only dhcp with a binding to your mac id. Simply change the mac id of your laptop to copy the mac id of your pc's ethernet card. I have done this on some Hathway as well as cable connections in doze. Just look up google to find a way to change mac ids in Debian based systems as I haven't done it in Linux.
BTW, for those using Reliance's WiMax services, the procedure is the same too as now they have also started binding ips to mac ids. Just yesterday I solved a problem of no connection on an earlier working wireless router which even the Reliance engineer did not know how to solve. He got the connection up on the pc directly but on the router could not figure out why internet was not working. After copying the pc's mc id to the router, it was working smoothly.
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