Hi,
For those of you who are using Gmail with POP and Kmail and are unable to see their own replies, upgrade to KDE 3.4 or later. They seem to have fixed this issue. When I first started using Kmail with Gmail's POP servers, Kmail wouldn't fetch my own replies from Gmail's inbox. I could see my replies in the web interface but Kmail decided to ignore them. Recently I switched over to FC4 and the default Kmail client fetches my replies.
Alas, this machine is still on FC2 and KDE 3.2 :(
Just thought the list would like to know.
ciao!
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 00:45, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Hi,
For those of you who are using Gmail with POP and Kmail and are unable to see their own replies, upgrade to KDE 3.4 or later. They seem to have fixed this issue. When I first started using Kmail with Gmail's POP servers, Kmail wouldn't fetch my own replies from Gmail's inbox. I could see my replies in the web interface but Kmail decided to ignore them. Recently I switched over to FC4 and the default Kmail client fetches my replies.
Yeah! I'm on KDE 3.5.1 and Kmail has been great with Gmail. Unlike Thunderbird which managed to delete ALL my emails from the Gmail server (Yes I configured it properly), Kmail actually keeps the messages that I have not deleted from my local mailbox.
Mrugesh
Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
Yeah! I'm on KDE 3.5.1 and Kmail has been great with Gmail. Unlike Thunderbird which managed to delete ALL my emails from the Gmail server (Yes I configured it properly), Kmail actually keeps the messages that I have not deleted from my local mailbox.
A word of caution for gmail users. Some experts believe that gmail scans and archives messages permanently as part of some human research and thats why its free. It creates profiles of all users and builds a relationship table which is why its available only through invitations. It is also said that messages deleted from the mail box are still archived permanently by google. So please use gmail after understanding everything.
Regards,
Rony.
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On 2/14/06, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
*snip*
archived permanently by google. So please use gmail after understanding
everything.
Regards,
Rony.
Hey Rony, Let me also know from where you got this news. Any how much(%) of it is truth. Is it put up somewhere on Gmails site.
I would be glad if you could just punch in the source <link> of this information.
Regards Tux.
Sometime on Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:58:38PM +0530, Tux user said:
Hey Rony, Let me also know from where you got this news. Any how much(%) of it is truth. Is it put up somewhere on Gmails site.
I would be glad if you could just punch in the source <link> of this information.
Google/Yahoo/others may not be using human readers but they surely have software agents which do profiling. They are bound by local laws to reveal critical information about users of their service.
I hope you are aware of case in china where Yahoo! is *accused* of providing critical info about a chinese blogger leading to his arrest. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9075-2032242,00.html
Anurag Disclaimer: i am not associated with yahoo/google/timesonline/etc.
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 9:44 am, Rony Bill wrote:
A word of caution for gmail users. Some experts believe that gmail scans and archives messages permanently as part of some human research and thats why its free. It creates profiles of all users and builds a relationship table which is why its available only through invitations. It is also said that messages deleted from the mail box are still archived permanently by google. So please use gmail after understanding everything.
M$ fud?. That is what any mail service provider does any way. If he is based in the USA the land of the new unfree, they are required by law to archive mail to be provided on demand by the govt. There is a case in some court bing fought by the feds and google afair. So if u send something on the net unencrypted u are essentially broadcasting to all and sundry. That should include mtnl, vsnl, msn, yahoo etc., etc., etc.,
On 2/14/06, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
A word of caution for gmail users. Some experts believe that gmail scans and archives messages permanently as part of some human research and thats why its free. It creates profiles of all users and builds a relationship table which is why its available only through invitations. It is also said that messages deleted from the mail box are still archived permanently by google. So please use gmail after understanding everything.
read this http://privacy.yahoo.com/
then read this http://mail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html
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On Tuesday 14 February 2006 04:14, Rony Bill wrote: *snip*
builds a relationship table which is why its available only through invitations. It is also said that messages deleted from the mail box
*snip*
Umm...gmail is freely available through online sign up. No need for invitations any more ;)
https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 03:20, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
*snip*
Yeah! I'm on KDE 3.5.1 and Kmail has been great with Gmail. Unlike Thunderbird which managed to delete ALL my emails from the Gmail server (Yes I configured it properly), Kmail actually keeps the messages that I have not deleted from my local mailbox.
Remember, in Kmail -> Settings -> Configure Kmail -> Misc -> On program exit, perform these tasks. There is an option called "Empty Trash". Sometimes its checked by default and Kmail deletes all your messages on exit which is really annoying at times.
Just a warning for those unsuspecting souls like me...
Remember, in Kmail -> Settings -> Configure Kmail -> Misc -> On program exit, perform these tasks. There is an option called "Empty Trash". Sometimes its checked by default and Kmail deletes all your messages on exit which is really annoying at times.
wouldn't this delete only the trash folder ? Isn't that a good thing unless you store messages in your trash folder?
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On Tuesday 14 February 2006 15:06, Vinayakam Murugan wrote:
wouldn't this delete only the trash folder ? Isn't that a good thing unless you store messages in your trash folder?
No. Many people like to empty their trash manually. Remember this deletes the trash folder everytime you close Kmail...
No. Many people like to empty their trash manually. Remember this deletes the trash folder everytime you close Kmail...
Maybe its a personal thing but i wouldn't really care much about losing messages in the trash folder. If you spilled the milk , then no use crying over it. ;-)
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On Tuesday 14 February 2006 16:08, Vinayakam Murugan wrote:
No. Many people like to empty their trash manually. Remember this deletes the trash folder everytime you close Kmail...
Maybe its a personal thing but i wouldn't really care much about losing messages in the trash folder. If you spilled the milk , then no use crying over it. ;-)
Exactly...its a choice... :)
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