Well, I have noticed a trend among Winblows users that they use P2P to download a LOT of pirated software and applications (so called warez) and a huge amount of movies (read pr0n). If you visit all major Indian torrent forums, you will see that almost all of them have some type of broadband connection. As for me, I do mail (which eats up a lot of traffic), then IRC (which is also pretty heavy considering the number of channels and servers I am in) and APT (which is also considerable). That eats up 1 GB each month, many times even more than that when I dist-upgrade or something.
Well I have been using Linux since the days I did not have an Internet connection..and believe me without an internet connection its pretty difficult to get a Linux box do all the things that a windoze box would do(I am talkin about multimedia capabilities..for office stuff its fine coz OO.o is mostly preinstalled). Also the various dependencies etc take up a lot of downlaod MB's. I have a friend of mine who was actually finding it very difficult to manage all his yum downloads within the 400MB limit in TriBand. I am more fortunate to have unlimited download internet connection. What I wanna say is that average bandwidth usage is actually more in Linux than Windoze(p2p excluded) as the most common software in windoze like Winamp will be readily available from a friend as compared to say xine-libs ,libdvdcss and kaffeine!! (but what the heck..I still like Linux )For my part ...I need around 4-5GB per month for my Linux updates plus music downloads.
On 7/9/06, अिनकॆत (Aniket) aniketvb@gmail.com wrote:
have unlimited download internet connection. What I wanna say is that average bandwidth usage is actually more in Linux than Windoze(p2p
All software does not need updating. Windoze users don't update all their software all the time. You can choose which app to update if bandwidth doesn't allow. With apt (and yum?) the dependancies choose themselves. It's only when you upgrade something big like OOo or Gnome or KDE that you need 100s of Megs. If you compare that with windows, you simply can't upgrade the UI :)
The roadblock is probably that apps change much too often in GNU/Linux.
excluded) as the most common software in windoze like Winamp will be readily available from a friend as compared to say xine-libs ,libdvdcss and kaffeine!! (but what the heck..I still like Linux )For
True. But a friend could burn you updates on RW if he's a *friend indeed* ;)
my part ...I need around 4-5GB per month for my Linux updates plus music downloads.
Music downloads (from P2P) are illegal. Does anybody care? ;)
Siddhesh
On Sunday 09 July 2006 12:35 pm, अिनकॆत (Aniket) wrote:
Well I have been using Linux since the days I did not have an Internet connection..and believe me without an internet connection its pretty difficult to get a Linux box do all the things that a windoze box would do(I am talkin about multimedia capabilities..for office stuff its fine coz OO.o is mostly preinstalled). Also the various dependencies etc take up a lot of downlaod MB's. I have a friend of mine who was actually finding it very difficult to manage all his yum downloads within the 400MB limit in TriBand. I am more fortunate to have unlimited download internet connection. What I wanna say is that average bandwidth usage is actually more in Linux than Windoze(p2p excluded) as the most common software in windoze like Winamp will be readily available from a friend as compared to say xine-libs ,libdvdcss and kaffeine!!
all standard stuff on most distros. But you forget your daily dose of Anti Venom downloads dose every day not to mention the fact that holes and bugs get fixed in the next new improved M$ malware never on a regular basis. If the hole /bugfix was anywhere near the rate of GNU distros u would require a T1 pipe straight to redmond.
If u plan to stay updated yes u require plenty of BW. Otoh my woody box hasnt been upgraded since 2.4.18 so the download on that machine is a few milibits per month.
On 7/9/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
all standard stuff on most distros. But you forget your daily dose of Anti Venom downloads dose every day not to mention the fact that holes and bugs get fixed in the next new improved M$ malware never on a regular basis.
How many windoze users actually patch their machines or even download AV updates regularly? People simply get used to the bugs and work around them. If the Cancel button causes the app to crash/hang I'll simply get used to clicking the OK button for everything :P
If u plan to stay updated yes u require plenty of BW. Otoh my woody box hasnt been upgraded since 2.4.18 so the download on that machine is a few milibits per month.
LOL ;)
Siddhesh
On Sunday 09 July 2006 01:15 pm, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
How many windoze users actually patch their machines
Autoupdate is the default.. Just monitor the usage on your linux proxy and see. And that still does not account for all the other malware and phone home software sending 100 +kB of god knows what.
or even download AV updates regularly?
Autoupdate again. But very many never subscribe to an update service.
And yes i am talking of the disabled royalty who use "people enabled" legal ware.
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 01:15:24PM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
How many windoze users actually patch their machines or even download AV updates regularly? People simply get used to the bugs and work around them.
Those users who are 'victims of software counterfeiting' will not be able to update their os with M$ patches.
Regards,
Rony.
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