hello all, just one question about fedora and this is really very serious because I have got contracts from 3 other big organisations for converting their enterprise to gnu/linux. I found that fedora is having more hardware support than any distro for the latest hardware like ggc mother boards etc. now my question is that what kind of reliability can we expect with fedora and what is the level of support we get? for example ubuntu has a "LTS" meaning Long Time Support policy. I think fedora obviously can't provide this because this is purely community driven project. I am not so sure about mandriva whether is is purely community driven or an organisation is supporting it. any ways the point is that can fedora have that kind of support because new versions come every now and then so can we look for support on fedora? for example if I am using fedora core 6 how long can I get updates and new packages for the same? thanking all. Krishnakant.
On 2/5/07, krishnakant Mane researchbase@gmail.com wrote:
now my question is that what kind of reliability can we expect with fedora and what is the level of support we get?
AFAIK, Community support via mailing lists is the only support option.
any ways the point is that can fedora have that kind of support because new versions come every now and then so can we look for support on fedora? for example if I am using fedora core 6 how long can I get updates and new packages for the same?
The support cycle for FC, ie. updates and critical security fixes, is only 13-15 months. The Fedora Legacy project was responsible for providing critical updates after that period but that project is now dead because of lack of resources, volunteers and funds.
Fedora was never intended to be a distro for the enterprise. If long term support is a must, which is usually the case for any kind of enterprise level deployment, go in for RHEL which is supported for 7 years after release.
then in that case how is ubuntu server? by the way since mandriva is officially supported by intel what is its condition? debian is good but wont work on latest hardware. and I can't tell my custommers to go for old hardware just because I want to run gnulinux. some solution has to be there where I can use the latest and well supported hardware and also have an enterprise quality free operating system. regards. Krishnakant.
On 05/02/07 23:19 +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote:
then in that case how is ubuntu server? by the way since mandriva is officially supported by intel what is its condition? debian is good but wont work on latest hardware. and I can't tell my custommers to go for old hardware just because I want to run gnulinux.
There is a Hardware compatibility list for the major commercially supported distributions. Pick something from that list.
Devdas Bhagat
krishnakant Mane wrote:
then in that case how is ubuntu server? by the way since mandriva is officially supported by intel what is its condition? debian is good but wont work on latest hardware. and I can't tell my custommers to go for old hardware just because I want to run gnulinux. some solution has to be there where I can use the latest and well supported hardware and also have an enterprise quality free operating system.
For a server machine, even a low grade X or no X would do. Sound too would not be important. So a Debian distro that gives basic system readiness should do. Debian etch goes upto kernel 2.6.18.
regards,
Rony.
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krishnakant Mane wrote:
then in that case how is ubuntu server? by the way since mandriva is officially supported by intel what is its condition? debian is good but wont work on latest hardware. and I can't tell my custommers to go for old hardware just because I want to run gnulinux. some solution has to be there where I can use the latest and well supported hardware and also have an enterprise quality free operating system.
Why don't you stick to the OS of your preference/comfort/liking.. all current distributions of linux are good enough for most purposes (yes even gentoo!!) and have tonnes of drivers available for most devices.
Just stay away from hardware that is known to cause trouble.. say for instance: Some SATA based on-board raid controllers, Soft modems etc.. Others could add to this list/
- dhawal
On Wednesday 07 Feb 2007 19:19:28 Vihan Pandey wrote:
Why don't you stick to the OS of your preference/comfort/liking.. all current distributions of linux are good enough for most purposes (yes even gentoo!!)
Why do i have a eerie feeling that a ``certain" gentoo user is not going to take kindly to this :-)
Well, I love Gentoo for my own purposes, but I certainly know its drawbacks and wouldn't recommend it where it isn't the best choice. :)
The ``certain'' Gentoo user hath spoken. ;)
Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Wednesday 07 Feb 2007 19:19:28 Vihan Pandey wrote:
Why don't you stick to the OS of your preference/comfort/liking.. all current distributions of linux are good enough for most purposes (yes even gentoo!!)
Why do i have a eerie feeling that a ``certain" gentoo user is not going to take kindly to this :-)
Well, I love Gentoo for my own purposes, but I certainly know its drawbacks and wouldn't recommend it where it isn't the best choice. :)
s/love for my own purposes/like the concept/, apart from that it's a *me too* moment for me ;-)
Vihan Pandey wrote:
Why don't you stick to the OS of your preference/comfort/liking.. all current distributions of linux are good enough for most purposes (yes even gentoo!!)
Why do i have a eerie feeling that a ``certain" gentoo user is not going to take kindly to this :-)
oh well, then consider it humor.. i've used gentoo and quite liked the concept. Just that rpms were more uniform and manageable after years of "GCC= gcc -Osomemagic -Wsomemoremagic, ./configure, make, make test, make install".
Also, i still have a high regard for drobbins (see his developerworks articles, if not his gentoo stuff)
- dhawal
Why do i have a eerie feeling that a ``certain" gentoo user is not going
to
take kindly to this :-)
oh well, then consider it humor..
i do :-) and looks like so does he :-)
i've used gentoo and quite liked the
concept. Just that rpms were more uniform and manageable after years of "GCC= gcc -Osomemagic -Wsomemoremagic, ./configure, make, make test, make install".
Ah yes and the dependency resolution hell.
Also, i still have a high regard for drobbins (see his developerworks
articles, if not his gentoo stuff)
will do so :-)
Regards,
- vihan
krishnakant Mane wrote:
hello all, just one question about fedora and this is really very serious because I have got contracts from 3 other big organisations for converting their enterprise to gnu/linux. I found that fedora is having more hardware support than any distro for the latest hardware like ggc mother boards etc. now my question is that what kind of reliability can we expect with fedora and what is the level of support we get? for example ubuntu has a "LTS" meaning Long Time Support policy. I think fedora obviously can't provide this because this is purely community driven project. I am not so sure about mandriva whether is is purely community driven or an organisation is supporting it. any ways the point is that can fedora have that kind of support because new versions come every now and then so can we look for support on fedora? for example if I am using fedora core 6 how long can I get updates and new packages for the same? thanking all.
probably 13 months from release (was previously 10 months).. see http://fedoranews.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekly_News_Issue_73#Red_Hat.27s_Fedora_to...
Overall it is stable enough for the desktop (with some occasional irritations like the latest thunderbird/gtk/glibc drag and drop bug), though i'd prefer centos/rhel for servers.
- dhawal
On Monday 05 February 2007 11:58, krishnakant Mane wrote:
hello all, just one question about fedora and this is really very serious because I have got contracts from 3 other big organisations for converting their enterprise to gnu/linux. I found that fedora is having more hardware support than any distro for the latest hardware like ggc mother boards etc. now my question is that what kind of reliability can we expect with fedora and what is the level of support we get?
Fedora is the test bed for RHEL distros. Just forget about ANY support. Further if you are thinking of longterm support based on closed binary blob drivers, you are digging a deep pit for yourself. And RH or (anybody else for that matter) cant do a thing about support once the hardware vendors shut production. Irrespective of the lure of binary blob drivers avoid it like the plague. If u are thinking of earnings from support / AMC my suggestion would be stick to Debian. They are the only distro which have been consistent in their policies over the years.
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 17:26 +0530, jtd wrote:
If u are thinking of earnings from support / AMC my suggestion would be stick to Debian. They are the only distro which have been consistent in their policies over the years.
I agree. Besides, if you think over it old hardware != bad hardware. It translates into cost savings, more stable systems and you are sure about getting a mature product. So think over it. Even though I am a die hard fan of Fedora, I would still suggest to go for Debian.
On Monday 05 Feb 2007 11:58:38 krishnakant Mane wrote:
I found that fedora is having more hardware support than any distro for the latest hardware like ggc mother boards etc.
Based on the experience of one motherboard? Anyway, check the kernel versions. Install the latest kernel on any distro to get more hardware support. Distro specific patches are a different ball game.
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