11 Nov
2010
11 Nov
'10
6:46 p.m.
"I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees (or 10 USD) to Chamba Swathanthra
Cinema Project but only if 100 other people will do the same."
— Praveen Arimbrathodiyil, Coordinator for Chamba Project
Deadline to sign up by: 1st January 2011
22 people have signed up, 78 more needed
More details
Chamba project (http://www.chambaproject.in) is an ambitious effort to
create a Swathanthra (Free/Libre) Animation Movie by pooling in
contributions from people around the world and funding artists
directly. It is an initiative to experiment and explore a more
collaborative and open approach to film making, aiming to be
appealing, easy to be a part of and easy to contribute for hobbyists,
enthusiasts and professionals alike using FOSS tools, resources, and
the power of social networking.
A donation system will be setup at
http://www.chambaproject.in/contribute/ when we are ready to accept money.
You can add your name to the pledge at http://www.pledgebank.com/chambaproject
There are other ways you can help as well. See
http://www.chambaproject.in/contribute/ for different ways of helping
out. This is not just a movie project, it is a whole different way of
creating culture, some models of which we are already familiar like
Free Software, Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap, this time we are onto film
making.
We need to reach out to maximum number of people and being a community
initiative we depend on you to help us promote this project. Did you
blog about this project? Did you share news about this project with
your friends, colleagues, facebook/orkut/twitter/identi.ca contacts?
Are you a good designer? Can you create good posters and banners for
this project? Make some nice ones and post it in the forum.
Think about more ideas to spread news about this project. The more
people talk about this project, the higher its impact.
Cheers
Praveen
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
12 Nov
12 Nov
2:45 p.m.
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 18:46 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
"I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees (or 10 USD)
to Chamba Swathanthra
Cinema Project but only if 100 other people will do the same."
I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees when I see some concrete action
taken - so far I only see talk.
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
5:04 p.m.
2010/11/12 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 18:46 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
Fair enough. This was initial round, testing waters, see if there is
an interest etc. We will come back with concrete actions as we
progress. A week back it was just a mailing list discussion, now it
has a project site, mailings lists, forums, wiki, people talking about
it, people pledging support ... posters, banners, logos, promotional
videos, story board are being worked on ...
We know it is a long journey. It is not just about the movie, but we
see this an opportunity to talk about free culture. So already Free
Movie festivals are being planned in at least 3 colleges.
Cheers
Praveen
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
"I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees (or 10
USD) to Chamba Swathanthra
Cinema Project but only if 100 other people will do the same."
I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees when I see some concrete action
taken - so far I only see talk.
5:12 p.m.
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 17:04 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
2010/11/12 Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
Fair enough. This was initial round, testing waters, see if there is
an interest etc. We will come back with concrete actions as we
progress. A week back it was just a mailing list discussion, now it
has a project site, mailings lists, forums, wiki, people talking about
it, people pledging support ... posters, banners, logos, promotional
videos, story board are being worked on ...
We know it is a long journey. It is not just about the movie, but we
see this an opportunity to talk about free culture. So already Free
Movie festivals are being planned in at least 3 colleges.
produce a two minute movie - I will take it up to some Bollywood actors
and directors I know. If you make something, then money will flow - if
you ask for money without any product to show - you will just irritate
people.
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 18:46 +0530, Praveen A
wrote:
> "I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees (or 10 USD) to Chamba
Swathanthra
Cinema
Project but only if 100 other people will do the same."
I will contribute 500 Indian Rupees when I see some concrete action
taken - so far I only see talk.
5:21 p.m.
2010/11/12 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
produce a two minute movie - I will take it up to some
Bollywood actors
and directors I know. If you make something, then money will flow - if
you ask for money without any product to show - you will just irritate
people.
OK, we will come back with a trailer as next step. Think of this as a
call for participation only.
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
5:25 p.m.
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 17:21 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
2010/11/12 Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
hate to nitpick - but it was labeled as an appeal for money.
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
produce a two minute movie - I will take it up to
some Bollywood
actors
and directors I know. If you make something, then
money will flow -
if
you ask for money without any product to show -
you will just
irritate
people.
OK, we will come back with a trailer as next step. Think of this as a
call for participation only. 
8 p.m.
On 12 November 2010 17:25, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> wrote:
hate to nitpick - but it was labeled as an appeal for
money.
I kind of agree with this . The first call should have been a call for
participation/contribution rather than a pledge for 'cash' . Its
quite understandable with community people but some times it gets
misrepresented as yet another fund collection email .
Regards,
Pavithran
10:53 p.m.
2010/11/12 pavithran s <pavi.eu(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 12 November 2010 17:25, Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> wrote:
Now that we are done with a call for cash, and if you are interested
in the project, you can also do a call for participation. Look for
things that needs to be done and compose a mail with that list and
some ideas as to what it requires to get that done.
Thanks for volunteering.
Praveen
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
hate to nitpick - but it was labeled as an appeal
for money.
I kind of agree with this . The first call should have been a call for
participation/contribution rather than a pledge for 'cash' . Its
quite understandable with community people but some times it gets
misrepresented as yet another fund collection email .
13 Nov
13 Nov
8:08 a.m.
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 22:53 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
that is a good proposal - I have been dying to get involved with a
project like this for a long time. And my bollywood friends are
cynically watching me ;-)
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
I kind of
agree with this . The first call should have been a call
for
participation/contribution rather than a pledge
for 'cash' . Its
quite understandable with community people but some times it gets
misrepresented as yet another fund collection email .
Now that we are done with a call for cash, and if you are interested
in the project, you can also do a call for participation. Look for
things that needs to be done and compose a mail with that list and
some ideas as to what it requires to get that done.
6 Dec
6 Dec
5:26 p.m.
2010/11/13 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
that is a good proposal - I have been dying to get
involved with a
project like this for a long time. And my bollywood friends are
cynically watching me ;-)
Here is a proof of concept video. http://vimeo.com/17279908 This is
not a trailer of the movie, but created just to show capabilities of
blender in a workshop Milad did last week. It was created over a week
in his spare time. People pledging and donating money would help us
fund some artists full time. We have not been getting much pledges,
but, I believe an animation like this might persuade some people more
than earlier requests based on belief in free culture or good intent
of the team alone. Pledge link is here again
http://www.pledgebank.com/chambaproject
Praveen
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
3 Jan
3 Jan
10:31 a.m.
2010/12/6 Praveen A <pravi.a(a)gmail.com>om>:
Here is a proof of concept video.
http://vimeo.com/17279908 This is
not a trailer of the movie, but created just to show capabilities of
blender in a workshop Milad did last week.
Indian Express has a story on Chamba
http://expressbuzz.com/states/kerala/open-source-animation-movie-
comes-to-india/236129.html
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
15 Nov
15 Nov
12:31 p.m.
On 11 November 2010 18:46, Praveen A <pravi.a(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Chamba project (http://www.chambaproject.in) is an
ambitious effort to
create a Swathanthra (Free/Libre) Animation Movie by pooling in
contributions from people around the world and funding artists
directly. It is an initiative to experiment and explore a more
collaborative and open approach to film making, aiming to be
appealing, easy to be a part of and easy to contribute for hobbyists,
enthusiasts and professionals alike using FOSS tools, resources, and
the power of social networking.
Yesterday at Barcamp Kerala while Hiran V was proposing the Chamba
project , there was lot of discussion on ' why not maya' and it also
even went to a faculty of amritha questioning ' if you ask people to
use blender you will get very less people ' and also suggested ' to
use maya and release the code in public repo ' .
Watching that discussion and a similar one where I had to answer on
"why not mapmaker, google, eart,kml etc " . It went to a suggestion
to prepare a slideshow/table or presentation highlighting the
usefullness/advantages of blender when compared to its propreitary
alternatives .
I didn't want to compare something which I didn't use . If anyone has
any links do share them .
Also reply to
http://praseedp.blogspot.com/2010/11/blender-vs-maya-my-thoughts.html
http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23bck9%20blender
Regards,
Pavithran
3:54 p.m.
2010/11/15 pavithran s <pavi.eu(a)gmail.com>om>:
Yesterday at Barcamp Kerala while Hiran V was
proposing the Chamba
project , there was lot of discussion on ' why not maya' and it also
even went to a faculty of amritha questioning ' if you ask people to
use blender you will get very less people ' and also suggested ' to
use maya and release the code in public repo ' .
We are doing this because we believe in Free Software (Free Software
is also a part of Free Culture or rather Free Software idea is now
extended to Free Culture). So there is no way we will settle for Maya
when we have Blender. If people think more people will get involved if
we use Maya, let them start another project with Maya. Lets see who
wins :)
Another comparison I heard was that, Blender is Maruti 800 and Maya is
Ford <some model>. So many people are happy with Maruti 800, it gets
them to work everyday. Also it is energy efficient, so it is not just
size or bells and whistles, if it lets to get your work done that is
enough. Plus Blender being Free Software if something cannot be done
right now, we can request it and it will get added. The whole purpose
of 3 Open Movie projects from Blender was to test it against real
world by creating movies. They added so many missing features required
to make those movies.
- Praveen
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
5:01 p.m.
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:54 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
We are doing this because we believe in Free Software
if you base any activity on belief, you will fail. If you want to
demonstrate that open source software is as good or better than closed
source software, you will succeed. Because it is.
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
10:02 p.m.
2010/11/15 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:54 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
Well, these are the two prominent schools of thought. Free Software
philosophy and Open Source model. I subscribe to the former thought
and you to the latter. Lets work together on issues both of us agree
on.
PS: For those who wants to keep track of this project, you can follow us via
StatusNet/Identi.ca http://chamba.status.net/chamba
Twitter: http://twitter.com/chambaopenmovie
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chambaopenmovie
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
We are doing this because we believe in Free
Software
if you base any activity on belief, you will fail. If you want to
demonstrate that open source software is as good or better than closed
source software, you will succeed. Because it is.
11:26 p.m.
On 15 November 2010 22:02, Praveen A <pravi.a(a)gmail.com> wrote:
PS: For those who wants to keep track of this project,
you can follow us via
StatusNet/Identi.ca http://chamba.status.net/chamba
Twitter: http://twitter.com/chambaopenmovie
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chambaopenmovie
Also adding one more in more participatory sense . Guys contribute ,
Add your ideas here :)
http://www.chambaproject.in/wiki/index.php?title=Ideas#List_of_Ideas
PS: I added two ideas , vote on them and don't forget to sign your
statements by ~~~~
Regards,
Pavithran
16 Nov
16 Nov
10:38 a.m.
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 22:02 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
PS: For those who wants to keep track of this project,
you can follow
us via
StatusNet/Identi.ca http://chamba.status.net/chamba
Twitter: http://twitter.com/chambaopenmovie
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chambaopenmovie
ahem - what does RMS say about using the above? or are you eclectic in
your 'beliefs'?
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
11:25 a.m.
2010/11/16 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 22:02 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
It is a community project and people volunteer to do things. Hiran
volunteered to maintain facebook page, Manuel Jose volunteered to
maintain twitter page. I added statusnet. We have common agreements as
a community. We cannot have same opinion in every issue. Most of what
RMS says makes sense to me, but it does not automatically mean,
whatever he says is right. We have our own ideas and experiences, so
it influences our thought process, we are not blindly following RMS.
RMS himself uses identi.ca which is based on StatusNet. So there is no
issue there. Twitter is optional, as it is a mirror of StatusNet.
Facebook is an issue, but diaspora is a work in progress. Struggle to
liberate web services has begun only recently. So it will take some
more time for us to completely replace services like facebook (twitter
is already replaced by StatusNet). It is similar to RMS using Unix to
develop GNU until GNU/Linux was ready.
--
പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your
rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as
they follow the rules: laws and constitution.
PS: For those who wants to keep track of this
project, you can follow
us via
StatusNet/Identi.ca http://chamba.status.net/chamba
Twitter: http://twitter.com/chambaopenmovie
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chambaopenmovie
ahem - what does RMS say about using the above? or are you eclectic in
your 'beliefs'?
11:37 a.m.
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:25 +0530, Praveen A wrote:
2010/11/16 Kenneth Gonsalves
<lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>rg>:
in
forgive me for laughing out loud
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 22:02 +0530, Praveen A
wrote:
> PS: For those who wants to keep track of this project, you can
follow
us via
StatusNet/Identi.ca http://chamba.status.net/chamba
Twitter: http://twitter.com/chambaopenmovie
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chambaopenmovie
ahem - what does RMS say about using the above? or are you eclectic your 'beliefs'?
It is a community project and people volunteer to do things. Hiran
volunteered to maintain facebook page, Manuel Jose volunteered to
maintain twitter page. I added statusnet. We have common agreements as
a community. We cannot have same opinion in every issue. Most of what
RMS says makes sense to me, but it does not automatically mean,
whatever he says is right. We have our own ideas and experiences, so
it influences our thought process, we are not blindly following RMS.
RMS himself uses identi.ca which is based on StatusNet. So there is no
issue there. Twitter is optional, as it is a mirror of StatusNet.
Facebook is an issue, but diaspora is a work in progress. Struggle to
liberate web services has begun only recently. So it will take some
more time for us to completely replace services like facebook (twitter
is already replaced by StatusNet). It is similar to RMS using Unix to
develop GNU until GNU/Linux was ready. 
15 Nov
15 Nov
5:02 p.m.
On Monday 15 November 2010 15:54:07 Praveen A wrote:
We are doing this because we believe in Free Software (Free
Software is also a part of Free Culture or rather Free Software
idea is now extended to Free Culture). So there is no way we will
settle for Maya when we have Blender. If people think more people
will get involved if we use Maya, let them start another project
with Maya. Lets see who wins :)
Another comparison I heard was that, Blender is Maruti 800 and Maya
is Ford <some model>.
Ford with the hood welded shut, the fuel tank sealed, the dicky with 5
crocs AND only ONE person allowed to use.
--
Rgds
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