Dear Friends,
I have experience quite a good number of startup/boot problems in computers (M$) of either HDD not being detected during boot or getting detected after a few *minutes* or the comp giving registry errors. The problem in all these cases was the new thin fine wire HDD cable that comes with the motherboards. On replacing this cable with the older normal cable, everything is just fine.
What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like these?
Regards,
Rony.
On Apr 9, 2005 10:41 PM, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like these?
What brand name motherboards are you using? I have been using MSI (Microstar), ASUS, Intel and have not had any problems with the cables supplied in their kits.
The thin wire IDE cables support ATA100/133. The regular IDE cables support upto ATA66. I would suggest you buy (or borrow) known good quality ATA100/133 cables and ensure there are no sharp folds in the ribbon layout.
If you have an ATA100/133 HDD, connected with a "regular" IDE cable then the performance scale down.
-- Arun Khan
Arun Khan wrote:
What brand name motherboards are you using? I have been using MSI (Microstar), ASUS, Intel and have not had any problems with the cables supplied in their kits.
I found the problems in Intel and other boards (can't recollect) too.
The thin wire IDE cables support ATA100/133. The regular IDE cables support upto ATA66. I would suggest you buy (or borrow) known good quality ATA100/133 cables and ensure there are no sharp folds in the ribbon layout.
I know their speciality but they don't seem to do the job. In my own system when it was being newly assembled about 2 years ago, my XP oem would not install and threw up an error. The hdd was given back to the dealer and the next hdd worked. The dealer reported that the one returned was also working. I used my system for about a year and then I had a spare cd rom so I made it the primary slave and the delayed bootup started. The cable was replaced with an older type and everyhing's fine.
If you have an ATA100/133 HDD, connected with a "regular" IDE cable then the performance scale down.
It may reduce but is hardly noticable as the systems that I take over are tuned to give top speed.
Regards,
Rony.
On Apr 10, 2005 11:34 PM, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote: ... snip ...
I know their speciality but they don't seem to do the job. In my own system when it was being newly assembled about 2 years ago, my XP oem would not install and threw up an error. The hdd was given back to the dealer and the next hdd worked. The dealer reported that the one returned was also working. I used my system for about a year and then I had a spare cd rom so I made it the primary slave and the delayed bootup started. The cable was replaced with an older type and everyhing's fine.
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Aah, in your original post you did not mention you were mixing CDROM (legacy IDE) with newer ATA100/133 devices.
It is not a good practice to mix them especially using the newer 80 pin cables. The legacy devices understand the 40 pin bus. It explains why the devices work fine with the 40 pin cable. Put the CDROM on the 2nd IDE channel and leave the HDD alone.
BTW, I apply the same thumb rule to SCSI devices - do not put LVD and SE devices on the same channel.
-- Arun Khan
On Apr 9, 2005 10:41 PM, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like these?
In my home PC, I usually change the cables for my secondary IDE every 4 months or so because they go bad due to the excessive pulling and pushing involved in the process of swapping disks. I have one disk that I use for taking weekly backups and two disks for trying out various distros.
VJP
On 12/04/05 00:14 +0530, V P wrote:
On Apr 9, 2005 10:41 PM, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like these?
In my home PC, I usually change the cables for my secondary IDE every 4 months or so because they go bad due to the excessive pulling and pushing involved in the process of swapping disks. I have one disk that I use for taking weekly backups and two disks for trying out various distros.
Maybe you should invest in hot swappable hardware? I know I would do that. Oh, and backups rock. I just lost a hard disk (lots of clicking noises), but no data :). Time to burn to CD.
Devdas Bhagat
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