--- Dinesh Joshi dinesh_pro@hotmail.com wrote:
I think I know what he means. Incable, BSES, 7star mention in their ToS that only 1 PC may connect to their service. They will "disconnect" the users who are found to use NAT or any kind of bandwidth sharing techniques... which is absurd. In the end all I get is only the pathetic narrowband speed. Doesnt matter whether I have 1 computer or a internal network of 100 PCs.
Regards, Dinesh.
I dont know why even in this internet day and age we are just Lagging behind the US in all this? One would think we are more upto speed now and dont have to make the same mistakes to learn from them?
Around 5 yrs ago, AT&T broadband tried the same stunt on me when I told them that I wanted to share the connection via a router. Note please, the Input remains the same whether it's 1 or 100 PCs. So, they said, if you want extra PCs you will have to pay $4.5 per machine more.. I said why? they said, Because only then we would "support it". I said, but I dont need your support and if you do come by, I Will show u that it's working on 1 PC only. How difficult would that be to remove a ethernet cable from the router to the PC? I dont think they had a prepared response for it. I asked him/her categorically. "Is it Illegal to use it"??? I never got a straight response. It was DSLreports that cleared everything for me. That basically a NIC is a NIC, whether it comes into your computer or a router. Then what u do with it is your problem, yes they can say they will not support it, but I dont think they ever found enough number of bakras to fall for the $4.5/machine/month extra crap. In the end I believe they just gave up.
If this matter were to be challenged legally, i dont think the cable companies stand a chance. But then again, they are not exactly your poster boys for law abiders (sic) so they'll just cut your line anyways.
I am waiting for Reliance broadband to come out with their works. My neighbor, being a fortunate reliance employee up in the pyramid somewhere, has had an amazing broadband connection for free for a year, 512 Kbps minimum, Video on demand, Phone etc etc. I attempted sharing that connection via wireless 802.11b, but the signal did not travel the distance we wanted, but it worked!. For almost 2 days I could surf at 512 Kbps sitting on the Pot. (the closest spot)..
-abhishek
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From: Abhishek Daga abhishekdaga@yahoo.com
I dont know why even in this internet day and age we are just Lagging behind the US in all this? One would think we are more upto speed now and dont have to make the same mistakes to learn from them?
I agree with you. I mean look at Koreas, they are such small countries with very less skilled population than us( percentage of skilled population is more, but actual numbers are less ) BUT they have 100Mbps connections. I just dont understand when will these so called broadband really become "broadminded" and gives us BANDWIDTH and UNLIMITED DATA TRANSFER? I mean whats idea behind giving a 512Kbps connection with only 200MB monthly transfer and charging Rs.2/- per MB for extra MBs(That was Hathways stunt BTW). What the hell do they mean by "always on connection", "unlimited surfing". What the hell do we do with an unusable always on connection? What use is an always on connection which cant be used?! What the hell does unlimited surfing mean? Obviously you CANT have unlimited surfing without data transfer!!!(Thats class MTNL Triband's advertisement).
Around 5 yrs ago, AT&T broadband tried the same stunt on me when I told them that I wanted to share the connection via a router.
Hehe, my ISP too warned everyone that, if we were to share our connections(create a LAN of some sort at home) then we would be rendering the contract void. I spoke to one of their "engineers" he too sympathised with me but he said "sirjee, ye company ka policy hai. Hum kya kar sakte hain?" (Sir, this is company policy, we cant do anything about it). To this day, I share my connection with two NICs. Heh.
If this matter were to be challenged legally, i dont think the cable companies stand a chance. But then again, they are not exactly your poster boys for law abiders (sic) so they'll just cut your line anyways.
Very true.
I am waiting for Reliance broadband to come out with their works. My neighbor, being a fortunate reliance employee up in the pyramid somewhere, has had an amazing broadband connection for free for a year, 512 Kbps minimum, Video on demand, Phone etc etc. I attempted sharing that connection via wireless 802.11b, but the signal did not travel the distance we wanted, but it worked!. For almost 2 days I could surf at 512 Kbps sitting on the Pot. (the closest spot)..
Cool. I too am waiting for reliance BB. Atleast they have a decent 10GB limit and affordable connections(128Kbps for Rs.750). But I want unmetered downloads! I think MTNL has the potential but someone has to take the lead I hope someone does and we, customers, benefit from it! :)
Regards,
Dinesh.
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On 18/04/05 16:02 +0000, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
From: Abhishek Daga abhishekdaga@yahoo.com
I dont know why even in this internet day and age we are just Lagging behind the US in all this? One would think we are more upto speed now and dont have to make the same mistakes to learn from them?
I agree with you. I mean look at Koreas, they are such small countries with very less skilled population than us( percentage of skilled population is more, but actual numbers are less ) BUT they have 100Mbps connections. I just dont understand when will these so called broadband really become "broadminded" and gives us BANDWIDTH and UNLIMITED DATA TRANSFER? I mean whats idea behind giving a 512Kbps connection with only 200MB monthly transfer and charging Rs.2/- per MB for extra MBs(That was Hathways stunt BTW). What the hell do they mean by "always on connection", "unlimited surfing". What the hell do we do with an unusable always on connection? What
Unlimited == no per minute billing. For decent connectivity to be achieved, you need _local_ traffic. This means that your servers stay in India, and people use domains hosted locally, and get their ISPs to peer with each other. Alternatively, pull ethernet to your neighbours (and the next building), and bypass the ISPs entirely. Remember, you aren't sharing the Internet, just route local traffic (file sharing particularly) over that. Oh, and _voice_.
use is an always on connection which cant be used?! What the hell does unlimited surfing mean? Obviously you CANT have unlimited surfing without data transfer!!!(Thats class MTNL Triband's advertisement).
Around 5 yrs ago, AT&T broadband tried the same stunt on me when I told them that I wanted to share the connection via a router.
Hehe, my ISP too warned everyone that, if we were to share our connections(create a LAN of some sort at home) then we would be rendering the contract void. I spoke to one of their "engineers" he too sympathised with me but he said "sirjee, ye company ka policy hai. Hum kya kar sakte hain?" (Sir, this is company policy, we cant do anything about it). To this day, I share my connection with two NICs. Heh.
If this matter were to be challenged legally, i dont think the cable companies stand a chance. But then again, they are not exactly your poster boys for law abiders (sic) so they'll just cut your line anyways.
Very true.
I am waiting for Reliance broadband to come out with their works. My neighbor, being a fortunate reliance employee up in the pyramid somewhere, has had an amazing broadband connection for free for a year, 512 Kbps minimum, Video on demand, Phone etc etc. I attempted sharing that connection via wireless 802.11b, but the signal did not travel the distance we wanted, but it worked!. For almost 2 days I could surf at 512 Kbps sitting on the Pot. (the closest spot)..
Cool. I too am waiting for reliance BB. Atleast they have a decent 10GB limit and affordable connections(128Kbps for Rs.750). But I want unmetered downloads! I think MTNL has the potential but someone has to take the lead I hope someone does and we, customers, benefit from it! :)
So stop being a customer and be that someone.
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