Hi all, I blogged about the need to have better package management (actually it should have been better distribution-management now that I look into it) but what do people think/feel for the same. Are my conclusions correct or not?
http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2008/12/19/better-package-management/
Looking forward for comments here or there.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, shirish shirishag75@gmail.com wrote:
I blogged about the need to have better package management (actually it should have been better distribution-management now that I look into it) but what do people think/feel for the same. Are my conclusions correct or not?
Best Package Management? Its already there in Debian.
On Saturday 20 December 2008 10:11, shirish wrote:
Hi all, I blogged about the need to have better package management (actually it should have been better distribution-management now that I look into it) but what do people think/feel for the same. Are my conclusions correct or not?
Never new there was an xdelta thingy in apt. I use xdelta on binary files a lot for an entirely different purpose. Reduces BW requirements by an order of magnitude.
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:30, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
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Never new there was an xdelta thingy in apt. I use xdelta on binary files a lot for an entirely different purpose. Reduces BW requirements by an order of magnitude.
Hi JDT, Exactly my reasons for getting it into the limelight. I hope there is some discussion and a move to have this both in Debian as well as Ubuntu. Although from the discussions I saw on debian-devel it seems its going to be a long wait if anything does happen there at all :(
-- Rgds JTD
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, shirish shirishag75@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly my reasons for getting it into the limelight. I hope there is some discussion and a move to have this both in Debian as well as Ubuntu. Although from the discussions I saw on debian-devel it seems its going to be a long wait if anything does happen there at all :(
You can tweak your 'apt' for optimizing your need.
There is an 'apt-zip' package also, which may be help you when using slow connections.
Its myth and FUD that everything in Debian-devel takes time. Have you provided your suggestions/bugs to aptitude/apt/dpkg maintainers?
On Saturday 20 December 2008 12:37, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, shirish shirishag75@gmail.com
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Exactly my reasons for getting it into the limelight. I hope there is some discussion and a move to have this both in Debian as well as Ubuntu. Although from the discussions I saw on debian-devel it seems its going to be a long wait if anything does happen there at all :(
You can tweak your 'apt' for optimizing your need.
There is an 'apt-zip' package also, which may be help you when using slow connections.
apt-zip is not the same as the delta thing. It is a batching tool to run on a machine with Internet BW and space and then use the "package-ball" to update other machine without internet BW.
You can any way do this by creating a Packages.gz file along with the downloaded stuff.
Its myth and FUD that everything in Debian-devel takes time.
It takes more time than others. But given the rigorous test requirements, that would not be more than other similiar distros. The time taken is very well spent imo.
On Saturday 20 December 2008 12:22, shirish wrote:
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:30, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
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Never new there was an xdelta thingy in apt. I use xdelta on binary files a lot for an entirely different purpose. Reduces BW requirements by an order of magnitude.
Hi JDT, Exactly my reasons for getting it into the limelight. I hope there is some discussion and a move to have this both in Debian as well as Ubuntu. Although from the discussions I saw on debian-devel it seems its going to be a long wait if anything does happen there at all :(
A update feature like xdelta clearly targeted at single users who are most likely to be newbies is indeed going to take time. Testing would be difficult. And the slightest glitch in the midst of patching an installed binary would kill the machine.
On Saturday 20 Dec 2008 12:22:46 pm shirish wrote:
-- Rgds JTD
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under what license is the quote from jtd released? Or do you claim that also as part of your creative work?
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