Hello All,
Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it gave the boot up music too on login. The system uses a LAN cablenet as well as a dialup (when the lan is down).
I used the gui to setup the same in Mandrake. This cablenet is luckily direct with no PPPoE. The ip address was a static one and in windows, it has a domain and host name in the dns setting that is necessary. However that was a mistake to do in linux as the search domain is different from domain entry in windows. The eth0 would not connect to the net. Then I created the ppp0 connection and that too did not connect to the net. The problem was that the ppp0 picked up the dns server entry of the eth0. Both the connections were removed and first the ppp0 was setup and it went on the net smoothly. Then the eth0 was created again but this time, no names were used at all. Omly ip, subnet mask, gateway and dns-server-ip. That did the trick and the eth0 was up and running on the net.
There is a very nice control on the task bar for disconnecting and reconnecting the eth0 link and that adds added safety of disconnecting the link when the user is not on the net. It reconnects successfully.
Thunderbird, firefox and firestarter was added. One nice feature of the firestarter firewall is that if you leave the program running in the task bar and reboot, then on login, it asks the user to enter the root password and starts the firewall, like a reminder.
There was one problem though on reboot. The sound server gave startup errors and the sound went dead. It was getting too late to investigate but It must be something about the automatic bios setting that was discussed by some members here. Its irq may be shifting??? The video player does not play VCDs now. But that is a minor issue and the cus. will use windows for multimedia for the time being. Maybe on my next visit....
What surprised me was the ease with which the cust. took to linux in one shot inspite of the various logins and password entries. I had not anticipated that. Anyway, a good start. :)
Regards,
Rony.
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:04:34PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote:
Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
Sometime on Jun 13, S cobbled together some glyphs to say:
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
Tried Ubuntu on my cousin's box yesterday. It was so totally smooth. BTW, we started with one 30GB Windows ME (FAT32) partition. Downloaded FIPS and ran it under the running windows system :P Locked the hard disk first, but windows still jumped out of its skin when it noticed the partition table rewrite.
The longest part of the install was the windows defragment which took over four hours.
Philip
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 03:16:29AM +0530, Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime on Jun 13, S cobbled together some glyphs to say:
S? Just S? :-( *sniff*
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
Tried Ubuntu on my cousin's box yesterday. It was so totally smooth. BTW, we started with one 30GB Windows ME (FAT32) partition. Downloaded FIPS and ran it under the running windows system :P Locked the hard disk first, but windows still jumped out of its skin when it noticed the partition table rewrite.
I was lucky, I was allowed to just wipe the drive and the previous Debian install. I hope her backups are good. Everything came up smooth for me, too, except the printer but that was simple enough to add. Printed a test page within seconds of realising there was no printer installed.
Printers sucks, BTW.
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:04:34PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote:
Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
--- Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@thenilgiris.com wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:04:34PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote:
Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
I thought that had something to do with the fact that one needs to have atleast 3 ways of doing anything.
not to steal rony's thunder but i got a KDS laptop running FC3 for my mother-in-law, (yes the real thing not the proverbial one) and it really meets her needs of a)Emailing and Web browsing (ok, so it took a pcmcia card..) b) word 'processing'.
Agreed visiting kids cannot play any games on it and their CDs are rendered useless, but thats a small price to pay.
And yes, I have Sshed into the system. If your customer cannot give u the IP each time he dials in, you can setup a script there which will email u the IP each time he/she connects to the net?
And also, if they are using the mtnl unlimited internet at 700/month, you can setup the script to dial the connection each time machine starts. and if connection breaks, it will redial. I am using that in 3 places. so one does not have to bother about redialing. it just does it for you. especially useful if you are sharing that connection.
Coupled with the above script for emailing you the IPs, you can always have access to your clients systems (ofcourse, if they dont mind i.e.)
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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:45 pm, Abhishek Daga wrote:
--- Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@thenilgiris.com wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:04:34PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote:
Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
I thought that had something to do with the fact that one needs to have atleast 3 ways of doing anything.
not to steal rony's thunder but i got a KDS laptop running FC3 for my mother-in-law, (yes the real thing not the proverbial one) and it really meets her needs of
dont forget - Rony has taken the risk of installing it for a customer and charging cash money for it - tis a far nobler thing than doing it for captive guinea pigs like cousins and mothers-in-law
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:27:12AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
It was just a suggestion.
Satya wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:27:12AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
It was just a suggestion.
All suggestions are most welcome. :)
Thanks,
Rony.
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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 6:08 pm, Satya wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:27:12AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
It was just a suggestion.
try to resist the temptation - i'm serious here, one of the strengths of FOSS is the bewildering variety of choice available. It also puts off the newbie who is accustomed to no choice at all. When a guy has overcome his prejudices and successfully installed some flavour of FOSS, the correct technique to keep him on course with gentle suggestions on how to get the best out of what he has chosen rather than give him the uneasy feeling that the grass is greener on some other side. I have seen several cases where the unfortunate guy is desperately trying to install distro after distro in the search of the perfect distro (which doesnt exist) and has no time to learn the fundamentals of linux admin and use and becomes 'lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different'
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:53:38AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 6:08 pm, Satya wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:27:12AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 1:12 am, Satya wrote:
You might want to give Ubuntu a try.
typical linux killjoy - whatever you do theyll say: 'you did *that*???? why not *this*?????????????????
It was just a suggestion.
try to resist the temptation - i'm serious here, one of the strengths
How about you go take a running jump? I'll suggest whatever I want to whomever I want.
On Monday 13 Jun 2005 10:04 pm, Rony Bill wrote:
Today I got my first customer to get into linux.
way to go Rony (only you may have to change your name from 'Bill' to something else -:))
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