Hello All,
I wanted to introduce linux to an office so on a P4 machine with Gigabyte 915 mobo and 1 GB RAM, I tried to load Mandriva 2006 but during the first bootup process itself it threw a fatal error and aborted installation after getting up the first graphical screen successfully. Then I tried Kububtu 5.10 but it gave me a file reading error though my cd looks good and the drive is a DVD writer. Ultimately I sheepishly loaded Knoppix 4.0 in a live demo.
While the CD reading can be due to media, the Mandriva should have loaded smoothly. After so many years of linux being around, this is not expected from it.
Regards,
Rony.
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On 18/09/06, Rony Bill ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
While the CD reading can be due to media, the Mandriva should have loaded smoothly. After so many years of linux being around, this is not expected from it.
hey, unlike Microsoft, this is a socially positive compedition dude. if one distro does not work the way it should have try another. any one please correct me if I am wrong, but with the kind of configuration ronni specified, at least ubuntu should work fine? or is any thing else the problem. by the way ronni, I have the ubuntu alternate cd up and running along with kubuntu cd as well. I can give you one and may be we can try it on that computer some how? Krishnakant.
On 19/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote: 915 docs are NDA afaik. So avoid it like the plague. correct me if i am wrong. exactly jtd, the problem with that board is not of linux but I have the same problem with one of my clients on windows xp machines also. the display and lan are the major problem. rather the funny part of it is that I installed ubuntu-alternate just 4 days back and his machine is working good over night. although I have warned him that it may not work properly, it still did work. I got a nice chance to bash windows and he too is a avid user of gnome desktop. rgds. krishnakant.
krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 19/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote: 915 docs are NDA afaik. So avoid it like the plague. correct me if i am wrong. exactly jtd, the problem with that board is not of linux but I have the same problem with one of my clients on windows xp machines also. the display and lan are the major problem.
The point I am trying to make is that by now linux should be developed to atleast that decent level where it can be installed on any regular/popular motherboard without having to experiment with different distros. What's the point of freedom if I can't choose my favourite distro ( That too a 2006 release) for a new motherboard. Just as in windows, I don't expect linux to have all drivers built in but atleast it should load and install with basic drivers as in windows instead of throwing up errors like that. I have had no problems of 915 chipsets with XP.
Regards,
Rony.
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On 20/09/06, Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote: it should load and install with basic drivers as in windows instead of throwing up errors like that. I have had no problems of 915 chipsets with XP.
hey, u were just lucky to get away. many people have problems with that board. and as has been pointed out, ubuntu has the solution for it even when windows does not have it. remember linux will warn you about defects much faster and earlier. that is why u faced the problem.
On 20/09/06 20:58 +0530, Rony wrote:
krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 19/09/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote: 915 docs are NDA afaik. So avoid it like the plague. correct me if i am wrong. exactly jtd, the problem with that board is not of linux but I have the same problem with one of my clients on windows xp machines also. the display and lan are the major problem.
The point I am trying to make is that by now linux should be developed to atleast that decent level where it can be installed on any regular/popular motherboard without having to experiment with different
As soon as hardware manufacturers start providing drivers under the GPL. Please note that without drivers from the manufacturer, Windows doesn't work either very often.
distros. What's the point of freedom if I can't choose my favourite distro ( That too a 2006 release) for a new motherboard. Just as in
The point is that you can create your own drivers, paying with your time or hard cash. For some of us, that whole freedom thing is a bit more important than running on the latest and greatest hardware (and yes, _all_ my hardware works with Linux the day I buy it).
Devdas Bhagat
On 20/09/06, Devdas Bhagat devdas@dvb.homelinux.org wrote: The point is that you can create your own drivers, paying with your time or hard cash. For some of us, that whole freedom thing is a bit more important than running on the latest and greatest hardware (and yes, _all_ my hardware works with Linux the day I buy it). yes, I find very few situations in which linux kernel does not have drivers for a hardware. and do you want to know what freedom is? I was at the lab of Dr. Nagarjuna just couple of days back. there is a windows machine lying in his lab "no joke really!" the reason is that yes, one of his hp printer/ scanner does not work with linux kernel. but I told him promptly that I will write the device drivers for it. if the spects are open nothing like it. if they are closed, well, I will at least try. Krishnakant.
Devdas Bhagat wrote:
and yes, _all_ my hardware works with Linux the day I buy it).
Could you list a few motherboards and processors that you have recently installed for your clients' desktops or workstations since last 6 months?
Thanks in advance,
Rony.
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On 20-Sep-06, at 8:58 PM, Rony wrote:
The point I am trying to make is that by now linux should be developed to atleast that decent level where it can be installed on any regular/popular motherboard without having to experiment with different distros.
you missed the point - the point is that by now motherboard manufacturers should have the sense to make sure their motherboards are linux compliant - otherwise they are not going to be popular for long.
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 06:51, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 20-Sep-06, at 8:58 PM, Rony wrote:
The point I am trying to make is that by now linux should be developed to atleast that decent level where it can be installed on any regular/popular motherboard without having to experiment with different distros.
you missed the point - the point is that by now motherboard manufacturers should have the sense to make sure their motherboards are linux compliant - otherwise they are not going to be popular for long.
Many just release poky bug ridden binary drivers and grandiosely announce that they are linux compatabile. what they need to do is release the specs at the same time their guys have access - like AMD. Ensures that production does not do a Sony. It is happening for sure, only wish it was faster.
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