This a link to a review of vista beta with a humongous amount of screenshots.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vista/
I am posting this link here coz i was shocked to find the extent of just simple plain copying of features that has been done in internet exploere 7. It borrows tabbed browsing, rss feed reader, explicit mgmt of add ons.. list is endless. Is this right?? Are they required to acknowledge it?? under some license clause of firefox. Coz they will now make glitzy videos demonstarting something thats been there for ages in mozilla and firefox.
On 6/4/06, Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina@gmail.com wrote:
is endless. Is this right?? Are they required to acknowledge it?? under some
Tabbed browsing has been a feature of Opera long before Mozilla/Firefox. They are not required to publicly acknowledge anything in that regard.
Mozilla foundation never went on record to acknowledge Opera for tabbed browsing. The devs may have acknowledged from time to time on mailing lists and all, but no public announcements to the effect of "we have been inspired by the opera and have introduced tabbed browsing".
Also, I think its good if they're putting in some good features into their applications regardless of whether it has been copied. Competition is good.
Regards, Siddhesh
On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 09:45 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On 6/4/06, Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina@gmail.com wrote:
is endless. Is this right?? Are they required to acknowledge it?? under some
Tabbed browsing has been a feature of Opera long before Mozilla/Firefox. They are not required to publicly acknowledge anything in that regard.
Nonetheless, do not be surprised when they tout these features ... oops innovation, the clueless reporters in the newspapers and magazines will write glorify them, and the general public goes "ooh ... aah ..."
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On 6/4/06, Arun K. Khan knura@yahoo.com wrote:
Nonetheless, do not be surprised when they tout these features ... oops innovation, the clueless reporters in the newspapers and magazines will write glorify them, and the general public goes "ooh ... aah ..."
Umm...dont they tout their bugs...oops...features too :P
M$ has a long history of copying ;) Theres no problem as long as they innovate.
Umm...dont they tout their bugs...oops...features too :P
M$ has a long history of copying ;) Theres no problem as long as they innovate.
Guys, Personally I'm not against copying as long as it does some good to the world. By bringing in fanstastic UI and making computers more friendly to the masses MS has done a decent job.
However, Linux still rocks and I'll always be a linux buff.
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On 6/3/06, Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina@gmail.com wrote:
This a link to a review of vista beta with a humongous amount of screenshots.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vista/
I am posting this link here coz i was shocked to find the extent of just simple plain copying of features that has been done in internet exploere 7. It borrows tabbed browsing, rss feed reader, explicit mgmt of add ons.. list i
Now a humble request "please do not start another MS War over here...." It just makes the list uninteresting...So what if they have tabbed browsing,rss feed reader and ... in their new version of IE.Are you going to sue them for that?It just makes the competition interesting... Lets mind our job of making linux interesting to use than to be reading articles of MS and keep pointing to the list "Hey they have copied this.Howcould they do this?"......Let the list know if they have a new feature which linux does not have.That would be appreciated by people in the list.Even if MS would have acknowledged the fact, there would be tons of others who would still point fingers to them.
Pankaj
On 6/4/06, Pankaj Dekate whoispankaj@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/3/06, Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina@gmail.com wrote:
This a link to a review of vista beta with a humongous amount of screenshots.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vista/
I am posting this link here coz i was shocked to find the extent of just simple plain copying of features that has been done in internet exploere 7. It borrows tabbed browsing, rss feed reader, explicit mgmt of add ons.. list i
Now a humble request "please do not start another MS War over here...." It just makes the list uninteresting...So what if they have tabbed browsing,rss feed reader and ... in their new version of IE.Are you going to sue them for that?It just makes the competition interesting... Lets mind our job of making linux interesting to use than to be reading articles of MS and keep pointing to the list "Hey they have copied this.Howcould they do this?"......Let the list know if they have a new feature which linux does not have.That would be appreciated by people in the list.Evenif MS would have acknowledged the fact, there would be tons of others who would still point fingers to them.
Pankaj
point taken.. but its imp that ppl realize a lot of the self proclaimed innovation on mircsoft's part is just plain "picked up".. it reduces the ooh-aah effect that windows n m$ products have on ppl ..n also reading about what ms is doing isnt really a wortless activity.. coz after all software business wouldnt be half as intresting if there was no one like M$ to compete with...
Ok as far as something to learn from it.. well they have something called a preview feature whereby all open windows are like displayed as thumbnails.. like tiles.. which i think could be a really good..
On 05/06/06 01:08 +0530, Puneet Lakhina wrote: <snip>
Ok as far as something to learn from it.. well they have something called a preview feature whereby all open windows are like displayed as thumbnails.. like tiles.. which i think could be a really good..
I think you mean Expose (see Mac OS X). Expose is merely a way to mke up for the lack of real virtual desktops, and make it look pretty at the same time.
Seriously, this is merely an isue of learning an interface. Cloning the design ideas of Mac OS or Windows isn't necessarily a good thing.
Devdas Bhagat
Sometime on Jun 7, DB cobbled together some glyphs to say:
I think you mean Expose (see Mac OS X). Expose is merely a way to mke up for the lack of real virtual desktops, and make it look pretty at the same time.
Seriously, this is merely an isue of learning an interface. Cloning the design ideas of Mac OS or Windows isn't necessarily a good thing.
Yeah, that's why Novell did it for Gnome. See XGL.
On 14/06/06 12:41 +0530, Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime on Jun 7, DB cobbled together some glyphs to say:
I think you mean Expose (see Mac OS X). Expose is merely a way to mke up for the lack of real virtual desktops, and make it look pretty at the same time.
Seriously, this is merely an isue of learning an interface. Cloning the design ideas of Mac OS or Windows isn't necessarily a good thing.
Yeah, that's why Novell did it for Gnome. See XGL.
Seen it. Looks cool, not useful for the way I work (one desktop per fullscreen app + one for the rest of the stuff). Good for people used to the MS Windows or MacOS interface way of doing things.
Oh, and I believe XGL doesn't do the 3D desktop thing remotely (or not very well)?
Devdas Bhagat
Sometime Today, DB cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Yeah, that's why Novell did it for Gnome. See XGL.
Seen it. Looks cool, not useful for the way I work (one desktop per
It's not meant to be useful. We went past the useful stage between 1999 and 2002. We're now in the eye candy stage.
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