sorry guys, i know this had been discussed earlier, but cant seems to find in archive.
i wanted to know where to blacklist sites those openly do not support Firefox. the one recently launched by an indian bank (IDBI) for online share trading,
http://www.idbipaisabuilder.in/
gives out this ridiculous message when viewed in FireFox,
Sorry. This site can be viewed only using Microsoft Internet Explorer ver. 5.x
and there is one more web site by another big indian bank, icici, their general insurance site,
http://www.icicilombard.com/app/Calculators/two-wheeler-calculator.asp and, http://onlinemanager.icicilombard.com/icici/netproducts/view_policy.asp?Poli...
though they are not as arrogant as idbi, but the pages above simply dont load in firefox.
any ideas how to make sure they hear us? writing to web master, i dont have many hopes, unless they are pressured from above (sometimes i wonder, how these web masters get jobs, i mean, should it be the first thing on his mind to use a standard HTML so that is can be viewed from any browser?)
Sometime on Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 09:22:46PM +0530, Harshal said:
i wanted to know where to blacklist sites those openly do not support Firefox. the one recently launched by an indian bank (IDBI) for online share trading,
You might want to see ILUGD - Hall of Shame wiki
http://www.lug-delhi.org/wiki/HallOfShame/Websites
Anurag
i wanted to know where to blacklist sites those openly do not support Firefox.
I think as far as blacklisting on ilug wikis is concerned.. that wont serve much purpose.. and will only be a way for you to vent your frustration.
any ideas how to make sure they hear us?
This is the important issue.. So if anybody has had any success please tell us.. I wrote to centurion bank about their IE specific Internet Banking site and no reply... Does snail mail work better for issues like these??
unless they are pressured from above (sometimes i
wonder, how these web masters get jobs, i mean, should it be the first thing on his mind to use a standard HTML so that is can be viewed from any browser?)
well kinda of speaks of the "IT Spending" of the banks...
-- Puneet
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:19:54AM +0530, Puneet Lakhina wrote:
any ideas how to make sure they hear us?
Money. Lots of money.
us.. I wrote to centurion bank about their IE specific Internet Banking site and no reply... Does snail mail work better for issues like these??
Yes. Send it to the top and make it very non-technical. Some sites provide a form letter that you can adapt.
On 2/24/06, Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina@gmail.com wrote:
i wanted to know where to blacklist sites those openly do not support Firefox.
I think as far as blacklisting on ilug wikis is concerned.. that wont serve much purpose.. and will only be a way for you to vent your frustration.
any ideas how to make sure they hear us?
i agree with you. those people dont care if we blacklist them or not. my anger is against those web designers not with banks in particular. they (banks) want to implement something, and web designer/IT manager decides, i guess this is how it works. and lack of awareness about GNU makes things worse, as many times top management doesnt even know about GNU alternatives and are left with the mercy of their IT staff, who are nothing but bunch of 70%+, first class throught scoring book worms.
This is the important issue.. So if anybody has had any success please tell us.. I wrote to centurion bank about their IE specific Internet Banking site and no reply... Does snail mail work better for issues like these??
its not the matter of snail mail or email. i guess the problem lies with their IT staff, who are just i mentioned earlier, book worms, new age clerks. they dont think beyond what was 'taught' to them. at least in banks case we can put the security issue involved with IE (i know they are there with firefox too, but this is my personal opinion that firefox has an edge over security, due to its open source nature), but what if same happens with other industry?
what points do we have to make our case strong? userbase, at least in india is certainly below 10% for firefox. how to tell them that web pages should be made as per standards?
On 2/24/06, Satya ilugbom@thesatya.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 12:19:54AM +0530, Puneet Lakhina wrote:
any ideas how to make sure they hear us?
Money. Lots of money.
sorry, but i didnt get you. apache didnt have money, still world adopted it over IIS, more than money (which i am still not able to figure out, who should have money), if the usability and the true value of product to that company is exposed, they will adopt. efforts like spread firefox.
Sometime on Feb 23, S cobbled together some glyphs to say:
us.. I wrote to centurion bank about their IE specific Internet Banking site and no reply... Does snail mail work better for issues like these??
Yes. Send it to the top and make it very non-technical. Some sites provide a form letter that you can adapt.
First blacklist them, then write a short note to someone at the top saying that you noticed that their website was on a blacklist, and wanted to know why that happened, and that you don't feel safe banking with them.
On 2/24/06, Philip Tellis philip.tellis@gmx.net wrote:
Sometime on Feb 23, S cobbled together some glyphs to say:
us.. I wrote to centurion bank about their IE specific Internet Banking site and no reply... Does snail mail work better for issues like these??
Yes. Send it to the top and make it very non-technical. Some sites provide a form letter that you can adapt.
First blacklist them, then write a short note to someone at the top saying that you noticed that their website was on a blacklist, and wanted to know why that happened, and that you don't feel safe banking with them.
Hmmmm..... didnt think over it. good idea.
On 2/24/06, Philip Tellis philip.tellis@gmx.net wrote:
First blacklist them, then write a short note to someone at the top saying that you noticed that their website was on a blacklist, and wanted to know why that happened, and that you don't feel safe banking with them.
Good idea philip. Nice one. Now, just someone has gotta do it. Hope that scares them into
On Thursday 23 February 2006 9:22 pm, Harshal wrote:
i wanted to know where to blacklist sites those openly do not support Firefox. the one recently launched by an indian bank (IDBI) for online share trading,
http://www.idbipaisabuilder.in/
gives out this ridiculous message when viewed in FireFox,
Sorry. This site can be viewed only using Microsoft Internet Explorer ver. 5.x
The funny part is that their IT department is linux savvy and have had press releases about use of linux for some internal services. Maybe website policy is governed by the business guys.
Harshal wrote:
in banks case we can put the security issue involved with IE (i know they are there with firefox too, but this is my personal opinion that firefox has an edge over security, due to its open source nature), but what if same happens with other industry?
If anyone wants a little more tweaking options which are lacking in firefox, then the 'Mozilla Browser' is a better option. It gives netscape 7 like options. The 'browser' is browser with composer only without any mail client.
Regards,
Rony.
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