Luggerz, There is an excellent documentary on Linux, available for free download on ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/video/The_Code-Linux.avi While some of it is in European Languages other than English, most of it is in English. It features extended interiviews with RMS, Linus, Raymond etc. There is also a 2-3 minute section where Linus talks about Linux and India. All in all, an excellent view, if u have the bandwidth(600MB). Cheers,
--- Bhargav Bhatt bhargav.bhatt@columbia.edu wrote:
Luggerz, There is an excellent documentary on Linux,
[snip] I am downloading the movie.....anyone who wantz to view it can mail me offline.
I should have the whole movie downloaded by tomorrow.
Trevor
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It just contains sound... You donno who the hell is the person talking... If you have had a chance to hear RMS, ESR, Linus and bucha other guys who probably didn't meet each other in their life, probably you will enjoy the movie ;)
visit the site http://www.revolution-os.com
regards, Aditya
--- Trevor Warren trevorwarren@yahoo.com wrote:
--- Bhargav Bhatt bhargav.bhatt@columbia.edu wrote:
Luggerz, There is an excellent documentary on Linux,
[snip] I am downloading the movie.....anyone who wantz to view it can mail me offline.
I should have the whole movie downloaded by tomorrow.
Trevor
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Aditya comments:
It just contains sound...
You have an codec problem. The AVI has been encoded using DivX encoder. Do you have the DivX codecs installed on your system? I could see the movie perfectly clearly.
The "Free Software Song" is also cool! ;-) http://revolution-os.com/Free_Software_Song_video.mpg
Please use a download manager for retrieving both.
--- Harsh R Busa mailme@backendguru.com wrote:
can someone burn me the movie on a cd ?
[snip] Just saw it today morning. Itz fantastic.....you should check it out.
This is a must see documentary. Anyone who wants it....get a cd and come to my office.
Trevor
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On Oct 17, 2002 at 12:39, Harsh R Busa wrote:
can someone burn me the movie on a cd ?
Sure, but what will it cost to ship to India?
On Oct 14, 2002 at 15:36, Bhargav Bhatt wrote:
There is an excellent documentary on Linux, available for free download on ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/video/The_Code-Linux.avi
I downloaded it. It's pretty wide, not deep. It does contrast OSS and FSF nicely, in RMS and ESR's own words. I think I'm on the OSS side (FSF is nice, but not particularly practical).
If you're expecting to see code, forget it. Much of it is documentary-style history and political interviews with various people (RMS and ESR come to mind). The infant Linus looks cute.
Flames will be ignored.
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:11:56AM -0800, Satya wrote:
On Oct 14, 2002 at 15:36, Bhargav Bhatt wrote:
There is an excellent documentary on Linux, available for free download on ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/video/The_Code-Linux.avi
Not able to connect ERROR: connection timed out.
Pankaj Jangid wrote:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:11:56AM -0800, Satya wrote:
On Oct 14, 2002 at 15:36, Bhargav Bhatt wrote:
There is an excellent documentary on Linux, available for free download on ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/video/The_Code-Linux.avi
Not able to connect ERROR: connection timed out.
I have it on CD if someone wants. I'm in Andheri-Goregaon.
Manish
Hello luggers....:)
If someone wants a copy of the movie. Just send accross a blank cd and the money to courier it.
I will burn the cd and courier it in a day or so.
Trevor
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On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 12:20:39AM -0800, Trevor Warren wrote:
If someone wants a copy of the movie. Just send accross a blank cd and the money to courier it.
I will burn the cd and courier it in a day or so.
Hi,
Now its downloading. There was some problem with our firewalls here.
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:27:46 +0530 Pankaj Jangid pankaj@ncst.ernet.in wrote:
Now its downloading. There was some problem with our firewalls here.
[snip]
Cewl.
Trevor
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Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Trevor
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:07:17 +0530 Trevor Warren wrote:
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
I had a look at the threads in their discussion list as far back as 30th Oct and the impression I get is that it is indeed being managed quite professionally. Wishing all the success to Linux Bangalore/2002.
Is it possible to arrange for a Linux "Expo" here instead of a conference? We can have a conference as part of the expo. There are quite a number of companies doing development on Linux and they would be glad to show off their wares. The success, of course, depends a lot on how far the news can be sent and how well we can manage the event. What say folks?
I would love to get involved ... count me in!
11/10/02 11:48:50 AM, Tahir Hashmi code_martial@softhome.net wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:07:17 +0530 Trevor Warren wrote:
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
I had a look at the threads in their discussion list as far back as 30th Oct and the impression I get is that it is indeed being managed quite professionally. Wishing all the success to Linux Bangalore/2002.
Is it possible to arrange for a Linux "Expo" here instead of a conference? We can have a conference as part of the expo. There are quite a number of companies doing development on Linux and they would be glad to show off their wares. The success, of course, depends a lot on how far the news can be sent and how well we can manage the event. What say folks?
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:55:36 +0530 Ritesh Kala Riteshr@vsnl.com wrote:
I would love to get involved ... count me in!
[snip]
Cewl...we aldready have a list of volunteers piling up.
So....This calls for a jumbo session of the ILUG-BOM. Besides...we also need feedback from the elders here. How many aiiies dudes...?
Bye for now.
Trevor
Hello luggers....
Old wine in new bottle. Check it out.
--> http://www.businessworldindia.com/cover1.htm
Picked up by Newsforge.net too....
--> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/11/09/1317240.shtml?tid=23
Trevor
Hello luggers....
Old wine in new bottle. Check it out.
--> http://www.businessworldindia.com/cover1.htm
Picked up by Newsforge.net too....
--> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/11/09/1317240.shtml?tid=23
Trevor
Me thinks Charles needs some brain-washing to be done. And is that the only way?
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:09:31 +0530 "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net wrote:
Me thinks Charles needs some brain-washing to be done. And is that the only way?
[snip]
ROFl...:)).
By the way...he is on the list too. So be careful.
Bye for now.
Trevor
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
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The list did not include TCS, they are just entering linux world with a big bang, probably. They want do cunsulting for GE for Linux.
On Sunday 10 Nov 2002 1:45 pm, Trevor Warren wrote:
Hello luggers....
Old wine in new bottle. Check it out.
--> http://www.businessworldindia.com/cover1.htm
Picked up by Newsforge.net too....
--> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/11/09/1317240.shtml?tid=23
Trevor
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Since Microsoft is porting its libraries to Linux, how about inviting them to participate
(This is a joke, dont flame me)
Regards Saswata
Since Microsoft is porting its libraries to Linux, how about inviting them to participate
rotfl... maybe a joke... but lets see if we can officially send them an invite!
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
---------------------------------------------------------- I was like a helpless rabit in front of your beaming headlights ;).
Hello All,
Thx for the support you have given us in registering for the event.
The trip is as scheduled on 22dn Sunday, to arnala. The Speakers...pls plan out your talks in advance.
Most of these will be discussions cum talks, just to make the whole event a very unformal one.
Bye for now. Lemme know for any intended last minute entries.
Trevor
Trevor Warren wrote:
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Hello All,
Thx for the support you have given us in registering for the event.
The trip is as scheduled on 22dn Sunday, to arnala. The Speakers...pls plan out your talks in advance.
[snip]What is the timing?
Hello Luggers...
Check out ILUG-Margao....
Bye for now.
Trevor
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Trevor Warren wrote:
Check out ILUG-Margao.... http://www.ilug-margao.org
They use the term Hacking in a derogatory sense. It is extremely unfortunate that a lug should insult the people that make linux what it is.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:48:50 +0530 Tahir Hashmi code_martial@softhome.net wrote:
I had a look at the threads in their discussion list as far back as 30th Oct and the impression I get is that it is indeed being managed quite professionally. Wishing all the success to Linux Bangalore/2002.
[snip]
We do wish them a lot of success on the same. Hope the participation grows by leaps and bouds and people all over the country get to know abou the same.
We have a lot to learn from the same and get proactive in our approach towards laying the groundwork for our initiaives to succeed.
Is it possible to arrange for a Linux "Expo" here instead of a conference?
[snip]
Hm....Expo/conference. The Objectives of the same have to be well defined. Once we are done with the main objectives we will be able to linearise the whole effort and be able to get things moving towards having Bombay's First and only Gnu-Linux Expo.
Though i should tell you tahir, your idea of an Expo/conference on the lines of the LinuxWorld held every year in San Jose will be a real neat effort to SHOWCASE our cause to the masses in India.
We can have a conference as part of the expo. There are quite a number of companies doing development on Linux and they would be glad to show off their wares. The success, of course, depends a lot on how far the news can be sent and how well we can manage the event. What say folks?
[snip]
Perfectly fine....I am all guns for this. But before we even procees we have to set our OBJECTIVES and plan accordingly Luggers.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:03:39 +0530 Trevor Warren wrote:
Hm....Expo/conference. The Objectives of the same have to be well defined. Once we are done with the main objectives we will be able to linearise the whole effort and be able to get things moving towards having Bombay's First and only Gnu-Linux Expo.
Though i should tell you tahir, your idea of an Expo/conference on the lines of the LinuxWorld held every year in San Jose will be a real neat effort to SHOWCASE our cause to the masses in India.
You've got it right! LinuxWorld is exactly what I had in mind. May I suggest that we go along with our initial plan of Workshops. Atleast we should complete the "Migration Series". That way we'll get a lot of recognition with the corporates and later when we approach them with the idea of an Expo, they'll hopefully be more enthusiastic about it.
Seeing the enthusiastic response of the LUG, it seems quite likely that we can pull up with an event of this scale. We can even think of involving LUGs from other places and make this a national event!!
*snip*
Seeing the enthusiastic response of the LUG, it seems quite likely that we can pull up with an event of this scale. We can even think of involving LUGs from other places and make this a national event!!
Yes Tahir... once you are in it, why not do it with style?
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:23:58 +0530 Amol Hatwar wrote:
*snip*
Seeing the enthusiastic response of the LUG, it seems quite likely that we can pull up with an event of this scale. We can even think of involving LUGs from other places and make this a national event!!
Yes Tahir... once you are in it, why not do it with style?
You mean that? I'm all for it, yaay!
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:23:58 +0530 "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net wrote:
*snip*
Seeing the enthusiastic response of the LUG, it seems quite likely that we can pull up with an event of this scale. We can even think of involving LUGs from other places and make this a national event!!
Yes Tahir... once you are in it, why not do it with style?
[snip]
LOL..:)
We will....with the support and heart felt concern from my fellow luggers....i pledge we will deliver on the same.
One step at a time....
Trevor
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:28:35 +0530 Tahir Hashmi code_martial@softhome.net wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:03:39 +0530 Trevor Warren wrote: You've got it right! LinuxWorld is exactly what I had in mind. May I
[snip]
right...it would be on the same lines tahir.
suggest that we go along with our initial plan of Workshops. Atleast we should complete the "Migration Series". That way we'll get a lot of recognition with the corporates and later when we approach them with the idea of an Expo, they'll hopefully be more enthusiastic about it.
[snip]
Yeppie. Am shcheduling a talk with sandeep today about getting started with the logistics for the workshops. Will keep you posted on the same.
This is one area that has to be taken up and has to be strategised on. We need inputs from all of you. Initially the plans are to go in for the following....
--> 1 Commercial Workshop --> 1 Workshop for journalists around the country.
Will keep you posted on the same.
Seeing the enthusiastic response of the LUG, it seems quite likely that we can pull up with an event of this scale. We can even think of involving LUGs from other places and make this a national event!!
[snip]
We will be involving people from accross the country..including a formal invitation to all the LUG's and FSF/OS bodies.
Bye for now.
Trevor
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I'm in !
Let's first check out what will be the logistics involved and the economic sustainability part of it.
Linux Bombay - 2002 ... It has a nice feel to it. Just getting a feeling that too many things are happening too fast.
What say!
Kapil Karekar
----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren trevor.w@media.mit.edu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Trevor
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:40:26 +0530 Kapil Karekar wrote:
[...] Just getting a feeling that too many things are happening too fast.
This is OT but - anyone noticed there were two stories related to Linux on the Business page of yesterday's ToI? LG's announced preloaded Linux PCs in plain and multi-media versions. Seems we're heading for Prime-Time and the more efforts we make, the sooner we'll reach there!
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:30:17 +0530 Tahir Hashmi code_martial@softhome.net wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:40:26 +0530 Kapil Karekar wrote: This is OT but - anyone noticed there were two stories related to Linux on the Business page of yesterday's ToI? LG's announced preloaded Linux PCs in plain and multi-media versions. Seems we're heading for Prime-Time and the more efforts we make, the sooner we'll
[snip]
Ooopsy...i just missed this one out. Prime time or not, we HAVE TO STICK in with all we have got.
The movement will pick up pace, but the penetration and tangible benefits will be realised sooner and to the people to whom it matters if the efforts are directed in the RIGHT DIRECTION.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
reach there!
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:40:26 +0530 "Kapil Karekar" kapil_karekar@vsnl.net wrote:
I'm in !
[snip]
Cewl...;) How many more wanna hop onboard...???.
Let's first check out what will be the logistics involved and the economic sustainability part of it.
[snip]
Yep, but we list the objectives first. The rest about logistics/economic sustainability/viability/etc...will follow.
Linux Bombay - 2002 ... It has a nice feel to it. Just getting a feeling that too many things are happening too fast.
[snip]
Thatz why WORK HAS TO BE DELEGATED and EFFORTS HAVE TO BE harnessed from all over the state. We have to indulge all the like minded souls with the cause and get moving.
Remember...therez never a right or a wrong time for anything. Just go ahead...give it a shot, delegate the work and help the movement grow from the grass roots.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
What say!
Kapil Karekar
----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren trevor.w@media.mit.edu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Trevor
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I am in too. Just never been involved in such things before, so not sure how much help I can be.
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Warren" trevor.w@media.mit.edu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:40:26 +0530 "Kapil Karekar" kapil_karekar@vsnl.net wrote:
I'm in !
[snip]
Cewl...;) How many more wanna hop onboard...???.
Let's first check out what will be the logistics involved and the economic sustainability part of it.
[snip]
Yep, but we list the objectives first. The rest about logistics/economic sustainability/viability/etc...will follow.
Linux Bombay - 2002 ... It has a nice feel to it. Just getting a feeling that too many things are happening too fast.
[snip]
Thatz why WORK HAS TO BE DELEGATED and EFFORTS HAVE TO BE harnessed from all over the state. We have to indulge all the like minded souls with the cause and get moving.
Remember...therez never a right or a wrong time for anything. Just go ahead...give it a shot, delegate the work and help the movement grow from the grass roots.
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
What say!
Kapil Karekar
----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren trevor.w@media.mit.edu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Trevor
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:07:17AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Hi!
I'm all for it!
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:44:14AM +0530, Ravindra Jaju wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:07:17AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Hi!
I'm all for it!
Me too ... subject to academic priorities.
Would like to mention the recent workshop we organised in KReSIT, with a considerable participation from working professionals.
http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~ita/gnulinux/
Sameer.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:44:14 +0530 Ravindra Jaju jaju@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:07:17AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
Hi!
I'm all for it!
[snip]
cewl...more and more iitians on board.
A wild one this time....jaju, sameer what can we expect could be the contributions from the IIT side for this event.
As in space/speakers/conference halls/....???....etc
Let us know about the same.
Trevor
-- jaju
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 02:21:44PM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:44:14 +0530 Ravindra Jaju jaju@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:07:17AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
Hi!
I'm all for it!
[snip]
cewl...more and more iitians on board.
A wild one this time....jaju, sameer what can we expect could be the contributions from the IIT side for this event.
As in space/speakers/conference halls/....???....etc
Let us know about the same.
Hi!
In fact, I was going to write about it before you asked.
I think IIT can be a great facilitator in terms of the above points.
Hosting of the event shouldn't be a problem. And a lot of space and speakers too! :)
Let us put this on some more concrete footing!
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:33:57 +0530 Ravindra Jaju jaju@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
Hi!
[snip]
Hello Jaju...;) nice to hear from you.
In fact, I was going to write about it before you asked.
[snip]
Jaju....this seems to be a dream com true...seriously....i think we have ourself a GREAT...GREAT...GREAT idea and have lots of enthu people to get the whole show organised for Feb Next year.
I think IIT can be a great facilitator in terms of the above points.
[snip]
Okie...Please write in and let us know about the same.
Hosting of the event shouldn't be a problem. And a lot of space and speakers too! :)
Let us put this on some more concrete footing!
[snip]
How about forming a Gnu-Linux Bombay 2003 Expo Committee...???
We can get this core group to start formulating the plan and have the ground work done on the same.
Lemme know...
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
-- jaju
Hi again!
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:59:49AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
I think IIT can be a great facilitator in terms of the above points.
[snip]
Okie...Please write in and let us know about the same.
I am going to talk to our head prof. Phatak sometime today when he comes over. Will let you know more.
Sameer, can we meet?
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:13:30 +0530 Ravindra Jaju jaju@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
Hi again!
[snip]
Hello jaju...:)
I am going to talk to our head prof. Phatak sometime today when he comes over. Will let you know more.
[snip]
Waiting for you to get back on the same.
Bye for now.
Trevor
Sameer, can we meet?
-- jaju
How about forming a Gnu-Linux Bombay 2003 Expo Committee...???
*snip* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ??? The thing is we have to stop thinking in terms of committees and putting the matter aside. Lets not get rigorous until enough ideas pour in. I think lets munge on the idea. And please Trevor... lets be concrete with time-frames.
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:41:10 +0530 "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net wrote:
How about forming a Gnu-Linux Bombay 2003 Expo Committee...???
*snip* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ??? The thing is we have to stop thinking in terms of committees and putting the matter aside. Lets not get rigorous until enough ideas
[snip]
Its okie for us to keep talking dear amol. But ultimately....i have come to notice that responsibility becomes a concern of a FEW. Don't misunderstand me.....but that is how we have evolved.
This event seems to be setting a different trend....and i am happy with the way it is moving. An action group...will result anyway, if all the 400 odd so decide to take up the mantle..so be it. I am all for delegation of responsibility......not that i want any of our events to be a perview of a few priveleged indivizuals. This is my humble opinion.
pour in. I think lets munge on the idea. And please Trevor... lets be concrete with time-frames.
[snip]
Okie..so lets not waste time on all this frivilous talk of mine...:)).
According to you.....pls go ahead and keep the ideas pouring in dear friend.
Bye for now and have a nice evening.
Trevor
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:07:17AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Count me in!!! Will help in every possible way.
Regards Aseem
Ya count me also
ready to help in all possible way
Nilesh Gujarat
----- Original Message ----- From: Aseem Rane aseem@ports.cmc.net.in To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:07:17AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote:
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Count me in!!! Will help in every possible way.
Regards Aseem
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:14:08 +0530 Linux wrote: ^^^^^
Are you sure you're not infringing on some TM? ;-)
I think it is a little late for LB 2002, it will have to be LB 2003 since the earliest you can plan for is feb/march.
You will need sponserors. I think IBM and oracle will be big targets, and ofcourse, RedHat. I think ILUG members must be having contacts in these companies.
There are some very good event management companies for such seminars. I know of 2 of them who do such seminars for Microsoft. And they do a very good job of it. Also, a few of the IBM seminars have been well managed. The IBM Developer-works live event was an example (I dont know if any of you attended).
Regards Saswata ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Warren" trevor.w@media.mit.edu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Trevor
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On Nov 10, 2002 at 12:03, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
I think it is a little late for LB 2002, it will have to be LB 2003 since the earliest you can plan for is feb/march.
You're right.
You will need sponserors. I think IBM and oracle will be big targets, and
"sponsors". I don't usually flame spelling or grammar, but this is getting bad.
There are some very good event management companies for such seminars. I
Ilug-bom can organise it internally. There are plenty of enthusiastic people.
good job of it. Also, a few of the IBM seminars have been well managed. The IBM Developer-works live event was an example (I dont know if any of you attended).
I think IBM is showing a lot of interest in Linux. Some day I will have to put up the CD I got at SCALE.... Hmm, it says all rights reserved. Guess I can't.
On Nov 10, 2002 at 12:03, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
I think it is a little late for LB 2002, it will have to be LB 2003 since the earliest you can plan for is feb/march.
You're right.
You will need sponserors. I think IBM and oracle will be big targets, and
"sponsors". I don't usually flame spelling or grammar, but this is getting bad.
*snip* Well lets not just look at the face value here. If you tell people that GNU/Linux event is taking place... a few people would attend. Once you tell them the big-wigs are here, the scenario changes. At least initially, the event should aim at maximising the audience... and we have a long way to go.
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Nov 10, 2002 at 14:16, Amol Hatwar wrote:
Well lets not just look at the face value here. If you tell people that GNU/Linux event is taking place... a few people would attend. Once you tell them the big-wigs are here, the scenario changes. At least initially, the event should aim at maximising the audience... and we have a long way to go.
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/02/10/07/177255.shtml?tid=162
The reaction of slashdotters to the SCALE announcement.
SCALE has been a big success.
On Nov 10, 2002 at 14:16, Amol Hatwar wrote:
Well lets not just look at the face value here. If you tell people that GNU/Linux event is taking place... a few people would attend. Once you
tell
them the big-wigs are here, the scenario changes. At least initially, the event should aim at maximising the audience... and we have a long way to
go.
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/02/10/07/177255.shtml?tid=162
The reaction of slashdotters to the SCALE announcement.
SCALE has been a big success.
rotflmao... you still don't think things in India work differently?
Sincerely,
Amol Hatwar.
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:48:14 -0800 (PST) Satya satyap@satya.virtualave.net wrote:
There are some very good event management companies for such seminars. I
[snip]
We should evaluate all our options. Why rule out Professional Management of Sponsors are willing to make it work.
Bye for now.
Trevor
Ilug-bom can organise it internally. There are plenty of enthusiastic people.
good job of it. Also, a few of the IBM seminars have been well managed. The IBM Developer-works live event was an example (I dont know if any of you attended).
I think IBM is showing a lot of interest in Linux. Some day I will have to put up the CD I got at SCALE.... Hmm, it says all rights reserved. Guess I can't.
-- Satya. URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/ I need a job!
I think it is a little late for LB 2002, it will have to be LB 2003 since the earliest you can plan for is feb/march.
You will need sponserors. I think IBM and oracle will be big targets, and ofcourse, RedHat. I think ILUG members must be having contacts in these companies.
Good idea Saswata... roll me in people. I am all in for it and feel that it should be done.
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 12:03:59PM +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
You will need sponserors. I think IBM and oracle will be big targets, and ofcourse, RedHat. I think ILUG members must be having contacts in these companies.
When it comes to advertising, what gets left out is Debian :-(
Sameer.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:49:45 +0530 "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" sameerds@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 12:03:59PM +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote: When it comes to advertising, what gets left out is Debian :-(
[snip]
Debain...:). So this time make sure we give it the importance it deserves. The hacker culture will survive...what if we are just a nation of downloaders....:)).
Bye for now.
Trevor
Sameer.
MTech Student,
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 09:47:00PM +0530, q u a s i wrote:
At 01:49 even 11/10/02 +0530, SS wrote:
When it comes to advertising, what gets left out is Debian :-(
If we wear Debian T-Shirts it would compensate I think... I, for one, will.
That reminds me ... where can I buy one? Would prefer it if part of the proceeds reach the Debian project!
Sameer.
At 10:32 morn 11/12/02 +0530, SS wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 09:47:00PM +0530, q u a s i wrote:
At 01:49 even 11/10/02 +0530, SS wrote:
When it comes to advertising, what gets left out is Debian :-(
If we wear Debian T-Shirts it would compensate I think... I, for one,
will.
That reminds me ... where can I buy one? Would prefer it if part of the proceeds reach the Debian project!
I think when RMS came they had a few on display. But they were charged in USDz and I think would be very expensive. I suppose if we could get ~100 people then we could design one and get it made and maybe the profits (if any) would go the FSF-India...? But I think we wearing them will indicate our support which is more important then a few rupees... just my H 2 bits...
quasi
q u a s i writes:
At 01:49 even 11/10/02 +0530, SS wrote:
When it comes to advertising, what gets left out is Debian :-(
If we wear Debian T-Shirts it would compensate I think... I, for one,
will.
That reminds me ... where can I buy one? Would prefer it if part of the proceeds reach the Debian project!
I think when RMS came they had a few on display. But they were charged in USDz and I think would be very expensive. I suppose if we could get ~100 people then we could design one and get it made and maybe the profits (if any) would go the FSF-India...? But I think we wearing them will indicate our support which is more important then a few rupees... just my H 2 bits...
quasi
I am game for the idea. Good way to generate some revenue for FSF as well as an excellent way to express our support for free software. Everytime we wear the T-shirt it will be good publicity for GNU/Linux withpout us saying a thing. Wot say??? people.
Killing two birds with one stone?? huh
************** Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-Juhu **************
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:37:42PM -0700, vinayak_hegde@softhome.net wrote:
q u a s i writes: free software. Everytime we wear the T-shirt it will be good publicity for GNU/Linux withpout us saying a thing. Wot say??? people.
Count me ! if possible bags etc..will be a good idea. Because same type of teachers people cannot wear daily but they (especially students) can carry bags daily.
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 03:30:31PM +0530, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
Count me ! if possible bags etc..will be a good idea. Because same type of teachers people cannot wear daily but they (especially students) can
^^^^^^^^
Sorry **T-shirts**
Actually right thing got typed. One cannot listen to the same teacher daily. :-)
hi all,
A few of us have got together and run a management consultancy firm. last year i had attended Stallman's talk in IIT and based on that and other stuff we read, we were all gung-ho and went for linux installation in our office network around june this year. Our Networking requirements were simple: 5 computers in a client server config. Since a peer to peer with windows 98 was already in place. estimate of time was one week.
then on its been a nightmare, involving firing one vendor, etc. the current vendor has worked hard, getting all his friends, colleagues, associates etc. to get help - to no avail. the network is still not up and running fully (currently for instance, internal mails are going via the internet and we are dreading an attempt by anyone to set this right becoz it is bound to upset something else thats working fine just now) a.. at least 10-12 vendors have had a go at trying to set the network right. sometimes the problem is samba, sometimes squid, sometimes something else. no single vendor has been able to fix all. each has fixed a small portion, in the process undoing some of what has been done right earlier. b.. Red Hat not only charges a bomb for everything but has also played truant. they are not even available for promised help sessions (have tried with their mumbai and pune offices) c.. On the Harware front too our story was pretty bad. Sun started off by saying their servers are meant only for large corporations and not small offices. however, we found some more helpful people there - who have offered us the cobalt qube server (costing 45k) as a Stand-alone non usable server - hardly a great option. given it poor config its a bad option. d.. For Broadband connectivity, dishnet dsl is constantly telling me that linux will mean that i will have to install a router for broadband instead of a modem, again increasing costs, reducing help if required at any time, etc. Just wanted you people to know some of the ground realities. I started off as a very enthusiastic supporter of Linux, already selling it orally to a lot of people i know. Even did visioning with the vendor initially, to get him to specialise in linux, and offered to help him get clients. However, I now need convincing myself that Linux is all that simple as is made out (talk of seminars where the most uneducated person in computers could install linux, etc. is now sounding incredible to me).
Would be happy to meet anyone who is interested in helping us in the above. Since this forum comprises die-hard linux fans, i thought if no help is available here, probably linux is a bad idea.
ok then, lets see if we can
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 08:14:47AM +0530, Abhijit Bhabhe wrote:
hi all,
A few of us have got together and run a management consultancy firm. last year i had attended Stallman's talk in IIT and based on that and other stuff we read, we were all gung-ho and went for linux installation in our office network around june this year. Our Networking requirements were simple: 5 computers in a client server config. Since a peer to peer with windows 98 was already in place. estimate of time was one week.
<snip>
Hi.
Your office setup sounds quite interesting, in the sense that you seem to be one of the very few who thought about migrating to Linux in such a big way.
I'm sure you'll find a lot of help from people here ( including me ), if you start discussing your problems in details, PART-BY-PART. Coming over to your place might not be very convenient for many who might be able to help.
Since you've spent this much time in setting it up, some more time to get help over email? :)
hth.
At 10:32 morn 11/12/02 +0530, SS wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 09:47:00PM +0530, q u a s i wrote:
At 01:49 even 11/10/02 +0530, SS wrote:
When it comes to advertising, what gets left out is Debian :-(
If we wear Debian T-Shirts it would compensate I think... I, for one,
will.
That reminds me ... where can I buy one? Would prefer it if part of the proceeds reach the Debian project!
I think when RMS came they had a few on display. But they were charged in USDz and I think would be very expensive. I suppose if we could get ~100 people then we could design one and get it made and maybe the profits (if any) would go the FSF-India...? But I think we wearing them will indicate our support which is more important then a few rupees... just my H 2
bits...
Good idea quasi... count me in for the T-Shirt gig.
Warm wishes,
Amol Hatwar.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:03:59 +0530 "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" scrap@saswatabanerjee.com wrote:
I think it is a little late for LB 2002, it will have to be LB 2003 since the earliest you can plan for is feb/march.
[snip]
Thatz fine. February seems to be a good time to have such an event. But the planning has to start now if we intend to have this on a large scale.
We can learn from the iitians who have just concluded with a small gnu-linux workshop of their own.
You will need sponserors. I think IBM and oracle will be big targets, and ofcourse, RedHat. I think ILUG members must be having contacts in these companies.
[snip]
We will have to fish out a lot of these. I am sure we will make headway into a lot of them.
There are some very good event management companies for such seminars. I know of 2 of them who do such seminars for Microsoft. And they do a very good job of it. Also, a few of the IBM seminars have been well managed. The IBM Developer-works live event was an example (I dont know if any of you attended).
[snip]
Can we afford event management companies.......both in terms of Ethically and Financially. Though i WOULD LUV all our events to be VERY PROFESSIONAL in the way they are conducted.
After all....time has come to take Free Software from the domain of the ONLY-GEEKS to the non-GEEKS too....:))
Bye for now and have a nice day.
Trevor
Regards Saswata ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Warren" trevor.w@media.mit.edu To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002
Hello Luggers..;)
Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002
http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/
Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..??
Trevor
-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | ) / mailto: trevor.w@media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| ___________________________________/
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Warren" trevor.w@media.mit.edu
Can we afford event management companies.......both in terms of Ethically and Financially. Though i WOULD LUV all our events to be VERY PROFESSIONAL in the way they are conducted.
I mentioned event management companies because most events I have attended had them. Just a thought. I dont even know how much they charge. If we plan to have it managed by a professional company, I could find out.
The advantage would be that there is a strong business support backup. Things like sending out mailers, accepting registrations, collecting cheques and banking them, keeping track of budgets, making sure there are adequate trained personnel at the venue (pretty young girls for registrations, giving out the agenda, cds etc. -- every event has them), coording with the venue owners for seating, arrangements, lighting, OHPs, etc.
If we dont have an event managemnt company doing the above, then we should have enough infrastructure and support system to do that type of work. I think you are talking of workshops and seminars where a large number of people would come over.
(Mind you, I am not saying that volunteers from ILUG cannot do it, what I am saying is that there are hundreds of boring jobs which are to be done and these companies do it all the time, so for them it is child's play)
Regards Saswata
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Warren" trevor.w@media.mit.edu
Can we afford event management companies.......both in terms of Ethically and Financially. Though i WOULD LUV all our events to be VERY PROFESSIONAL in the way they are conducted.
I mentioned event management companies because most events I have attended had them. Just a thought. I dont even know how much they charge. If we
plan
to have it managed by a professional company, I could find out.
The advantage would be that there is a strong business support backup. Things like sending out mailers, accepting registrations, collecting
cheques
and banking them, keeping track of budgets, making sure there are adequate trained personnel at the venue (pretty young girls for
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Que?
Well Saswata... it will be great to have an event management company. But do we yet have the plan to get the money in? We must keep our options open.
In fact, I think keeping the venue at IIT may also be bad planning. "IIT? then its for techies... and I don't wanna go". Nehru Centre anyone?
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:52:20PM +0530, Amol Hatwar wrote:
In fact, I think keeping the venue at IIT may also be bad planning. "IIT? then its for techies... and I don't wanna go". Nehru Centre anyone?
Ever been here during Mood Indigo, dude? ;-)
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:09:59PM +0530, Ravindra Jaju wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:52:20PM +0530, Amol Hatwar wrote:
In fact, I think keeping the venue at IIT may also be bad planning. "IIT? then its for techies... and I don't wanna go". Nehru Centre anyone?
Ever been here during Mood Indigo, dude? ;-)
I think Amol has a valid concern there, but not too big to khatch IITB as a venue. Unlike Mood-I, any other event at IITB will get labeled as a techie event, and we'll have to make sure people don't misunderstand the purpose.
Sameer.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:30:14PM +0530, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:09:59PM +0530, Ravindra Jaju wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:52:20PM +0530, Amol Hatwar wrote:
In fact, I think keeping the venue at IIT may also be bad planning. "IIT? then its for techies... and I don't wanna go". Nehru Centre anyone?
Ever been here during Mood Indigo, dude? ;-)
I think Amol has a valid concern there, but not too big to khatch IITB as a venue. Unlike Mood-I, any other event at IITB will get labeled as a techie event, and we'll have to make sure people don't misunderstand the purpose.
Yes, alright.
But we are going to hightlight the event as mainly an ILUG-Bom Event, with IIT as the venue mentioned in small font or something like that.
Linux and ILUG-Bom will have the largest font sizes, rather than IIT ( "IIT Bombay presents Mood Indigo/Techfest" is the normal sentence you see, but not here ..." )
Comeon, we are being too paranoid!
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:36:24 +0530 Ravindra Jaju jaju@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
But we are going to hightlight the event as mainly an ILUG-Bom Event,
[snip]
Luggers from Ilug-Bom will be the primary organisers......but i don't want to give rest of India the idea that our event is a local one. So...Ilug-Bom and IIT WIll still be in BOLD.
But this still remains an Expo/conference on Gnu-Linux which we you and we will arrange at the IIT. Pls work towards having a feelers of the same from your Profs...and get back to us jaju...sameer.
Dr. Nag also says that April should be good enough for the same. I think if we all decide....we can vote to have it in April, giving us LOT of lead time to make the arrangements.
with IIT as the venue mentioned in small font or something like that.
Linux and ILUG-Bom will have the largest font sizes, rather than IIT ( "IIT Bombay presents Mood Indigo/Techfest" is the normal sentence you see, but not here ..." )
[snip]
Don't worry about the Techie bit. We will publise it appropriately about the expo/conference having attractions for audiences of varying tastes and likes.
Bye for now.
Trevor
Comeon, we are being too paranoid!
-- jaju
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:09:59 +0530 Ravindra Jaju jaju@it.iitb.ac.in wrote:
Ever been here during Mood Indigo, dude? ;-)
[snip]
mood i rockkkkkkkkz...:)
Can we have 1 every month..lol. Movies in the audi at midnight and heavy metal under the stars.
Trevor
-- jaju
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:52:20 +0530 "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net wrote:
In fact, I think keeping the venue at IIT may also be bad planning. "IIT? then its for techies... and I don't wanna go". Nehru Centre anyone?
[snip]
I totally disagree with the same. IIT is a lovely IDEA if it can be worked out.
Wat say jaju...sameer..???
Trevor
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:45:13 +0530 "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" scrap@saswatabanerjee.com wrote:
----- Original Message -----ed.
I mentioned event management companies because most events I have attended had them. Just a thought. I dont even know how much they charge. If we plan to have it managed by a professional company, I could find out.
[snip]
Would appreciate that peice of info from you SB. It will help us streamline our idea/plans.
The advantage would be that there is a strong business support backup. Things like sending out mailers, accepting registrations, collecting cheques and banking them, keeping track of budgets, making sure there are adequate trained personnel at the venue (pretty young girls for registrations, giving out the agenda, cds etc. -- every event has them), coording with the venue owners for seating, arrangements, lighting, OHPs, etc.
[snip]
Your inputs are welcome indeed. So....since you have been kind enough on taking things forward on those lines could you take the trouble to ge the details from the Event Managers and let us know about the same.
We need to start evaluating all our options starting now Luggers.
If we dont have an event managemnt company doing the above, then we should have enough infrastructure and support system to do that type of work. I think you are talking of workshops and seminars where a large number of people would come over.
[snip]
We will work those modalities out, everything depends on the Resources at hand and the Commercial Backing we are able to garner.
(Mind you, I am not saying that volunteers from ILUG cannot do it, what I am saying is that there are hundreds of boring jobs which are to be done and these companies do it all the time, so for them it is child's play)
[snip]
point noted SB...:)).
Trevor
Regards Saswata
On Oct 14, 2002 at 15:36, Bhargav Bhatt wrote:
ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/video/The_Code-Linux.avi
Hmm, should I keep it on CD or delete it?