30 Mar
2011
30 Mar
'11
9:24 a.m.
Dear Linux Users
Can we start Fedora 14 File Server in TEXT mode after having installed in
text mode? If yes, how?
We used to install up to Fedora 10 in text only mode and also get it started
in text mode. But had to start installing in graphic mode as the text mode
install from Fedora 11 onwards no longer offers partitioning and package
selection.
Our knowledge of Linux is limited and its been a long time I passed my
engineering (20 years), so kindly pardon my limited abilities in Linux.
Regards
Kshitiz
30 Mar
30 Mar
9:55 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Kshitiz <kshitij_kotak(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Linux Users
Can we start Fedora 14 File Server in TEXT mode after having installed in
text mode? If yes, how?
If this setup is for production then please use CentOS instead (based
on RHEL); the system admin tools are same as those found in Fedora.
Fedora is a community distribution and it lacks long term support.
To boot in text console mode, (as root) edit /etc/inittab file and
change the "default" run level to 3.
Our knowledge of Linux is limited and its been a long
time I passed my
engineering (20 years), so kindly pardon my limited abilities in Linux.
The Learning process should never stop. I completed my engg. much
before you did and I am still learning :)
-- Arun Khan
11:59 a.m.
On Wednesday 30 March 2011 15:25:47 Arun Khan wrote:
;-)
31 yrs banging electronics, both analog and digital, 26 yrs with
microprocessors. That, my dear op is a HUGE advantage.
Op, Your years gives you an "unfair" advantage (most youngsters would
not know how to use a bunch of ttls ;-E ). You will be surprised how
easy it is.
If you are running an OS on servers always use a stable distro. My
personal preference is Debian stable.
--
Rgds
JTD
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Kshitiz
<kshitij_kotak(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Linux
Users
Can we start Fedora 14 File Server in TEXT mode after having
installed in text mode? If yes, how?
If this setup is for production then please use CentOS instead
(based on RHEL); the system admin tools are same as those found in
Fedora.
Fedora is a community distribution and it lacks long term support.
To boot in text console mode, (as root) edit /etc/inittab file and
change the "default" run level to 3.
Our knowledge of Linux is limited and its been a
long time I
passed my engineering (20 years), so kindly pardon my limited
abilities in Linux.
The Learning process should never stop. I completed my engg. much
before you did and I am still learning :)
2:56 p.m.
Can we start
Fedora 14 File Server in TEXT mode after having
installed in text mode? If yes, how?
If this setup is for production then please use CentOS instead
(based on RHEL); the system admin tools are same as those found in
Fedora.
To boot in text console mode, (as root) edit /etc/inittab file and
change the "default" run level to 3.
5:46 p.m.
On Wednesday 30 March 2011 08:26 PM, Kshitiz wrote:
Thank you both, Arun and JTD. Will try it out.
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied preferences: Yes, we deploy
High Availability file server and mirror for small& medium enterprises, so
yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
Debian has a slightly newer kernel and good for detecting newer hardware
compared to CentOS.
I just installed Debian 6 on 2 different machines and it has the 2.6.32
kernel, just like Ubuntu 10.04.
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Regards,
Rony.
Can we start Fedora 14 File Server in TEXT mode after
having
installed in text mode? If yes, how?
If this setup is for production then please
use CentOS instead
(based on RHEL); the system admin tools are same as those found in
Fedora.
To boot in text console mode, (as root) edit /etc/inittab file and
change the "default" run level to 3.
7:05 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Rony <gnulinuxist(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Debian has a slightly newer kernel and good for
detecting newer hardware
compared to CentOS.
It depends on the version number. Even though the CentOS 5.x is on
kernel 2.6.18, "selected" drivers from the newer kernels are back
ported to the 2.6.18 in each point release.
Keep in mind that it is geared for servers and therefore it may not
have the drivers for the newer desktop motherboards. For server grade
systems, I have not seen any installation complaints (on the CentOS
mailing list).
-- Arun Khan
6:56 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Kshitiz <kshitij_kotak(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied
preferences: Yes, we deploy
High Availability file server and mirror for small & medium enterprises, so
yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
Personally, I am comfortable with both distros. Debian has a huge
repository of packages ( > 25K) whereas CentOS is based on upstream
source RPM that are part of the RHEL. The default package list is
enough for most server type installation. There are "add-on" repos
for CentOS. Both distros have point releases to support newer
hardware.
2. HCL problems? Fedora 10 doesn't work on Intel
3430 Motherboard with DDR3,
simply gives out syncloss display. How frequently do these OS support new
hardware?
Fedora 10 is obsolete. The Fedora support cycle is 18 month IIRC.
For production servers you should use server class hardware and a
distribution with LTS. Check with the vendor for HCL. The big
three are reasonably good at support for RHEL and Novell SLES. Find
the equivalent kernel in Debian or CentOS and the chances are pretty
good either distro will install.
HTH
-- Arun Khan
31 Mar
31 Mar
2:02 a.m.
On Wednesday 30 Mar 2011, Kshitiz wrote:
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied
preferences: Yes, we
deploy High Availability file server and mirror for small & medium
enterprises, so yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
I use Debian Testing on all production servers, haven't had a problem in
the past 10 years at least. Also a bit of a Debian fan, so the next
part can be taken with as much salt as you please:
I heard that CentOS is losing developers, which is not good news for a
community-supported OS. If that is true, then CentOS would be that much
lower in the list of preferred FOSS server operating systems. Can
someone please confirm or deny the rumour?
Regards,
-- Raj
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4:47 a.m.
On Thursday 31 March 2011 07:32:36 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
On Wednesday 30 Mar 2011, Kshitiz wrote:
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied
preferences: Yes,
we deploy High Availability file server and mirror for small &
medium enterprises, so yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
I heard that CentOS is losing developers, which is not
good news
for a community-supported OS. If that is true, then CentOS would
be that much lower in the list of preferred FOSS server operating
systems. Can someone please confirm or deny the rumour?
The recent mangling of patches by RH may have something to do with it
(if true).
But goes to show that given a need to grow profits, (and all the
corollaries that go with it), it is best to avoid a "corporate
distro" if you are not paying them for the support.
IMO debian is the only suitable distro due to the politics of business
and technology.
--
Rgds
JTD
5:11 a.m.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:17 AM, jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> wrote:
On Thursday 31 March 2011 07:32:36 Raj Mathur (राज
माथुर) wrote:
AFAIK, that really does not affect centos, since centos usually do not mess
with the patches that RedHat releases in each of their kernels, they just do
an rpm rebuild. The Mangling of patches is squarely targeted at OEL, since
it will make it more expensive for them to steal RedHat's support clients
since they will now have to allocate developers to either patch the kernels
from scratch or reverse engineer which patches among the ones RedHat and
others submit upstream are in this specific kernel release. Note, RedHat are
still submitting the patches upstream individually, so with a few really
good devs, the reverse engineering process CAN be done.
In terms of losing devs, its hard to say, since centos was always rather
loosely knit. However, the slow progress on
http://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/6/AuditStatus does not make me feel good about
a timely 6.0 release. In any case, I've seen that for most installs, unless
they are internet facing, i can live with Fedora on the server. Yes it means
i do a yearly upgrade, but it's a small price to pay, especially now that
fedora's upgrades mean very little downtime and are smoother than ever.
Regards
R. K. Rajeev
On Wednesday 30 Mar 2011, Kshitiz wrote:
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied
preferences: Yes,
we deploy High Availability file server and mirror for small &
medium enterprises, so yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
I heard that CentOS is losing developers, which
is not good news
for a community-supported OS. If that is true, then CentOS would
be that much lower in the list of preferred FOSS server operating
systems. Can someone please confirm or deny the rumour?
The recent mangling of patches by RH may have something to do with it
(if true).
But goes to show that given a need to grow profits,
(and all the
corollaries that go with it), it is best to avoid a "corporate
distro" if you are not paying them for the support.
IMO debian is the only suitable distro due to the politics of business
and technology.
--
Rgds
JTD
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2 Apr
2 Apr
12:10 p.m.
On 31 March 2011 10:41, Rajeev R. K. <rajeevrk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In any case, I've seen that for most installs,
unless
they are internet facing, i can live with Fedora on the server. Yes it means
i do a yearly upgrade, but it's a small price to pay, especially now that
fedora's upgrades mean very little downtime and are smoother than ever.
Agree very much that fedora upgrades have become smooth !
31 Mar
31 Mar
5:30 a.m.
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 10:17 +0530, jtd wrote:
IMO debian is the only suitable distro due to the
politics of
business
and technology.
I had flirted with fedora 14 for a server as the lenny libraries were
much too old and it was a pain installing newer libraries. With squeeze
I am back to debian.
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5:18 a.m.
2011/3/31 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) <raju(a)linux-delhi.org>rg>:
On Wednesday 30 Mar 2011, Kshitiz wrote:
+1. I started using Debian from last year and put in testing (what is
now Squeeze) in a few production gateways/firewalls. No issues so
far. The systems are just humming along. I am slowly converting my
desktops to Debian as well :) At client sites, end users have become
familiar with Ubuntu desktop so no plans for any shake up there.
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied
preferences: Yes, we
deploy High Availability file server and mirror for small & medium
enterprises, so yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
I use Debian Testing on all production servers, haven't had a problem in
the past 10 years at least. I heard that CentOS is losing developers, which is not
good news for a
community-supported OS. If that is true, then CentOS would be that much
lower in the list of preferred FOSS server operating systems. Can
someone please confirm or deny the rumour?
Can neither confirm nor deny but on the surface it does appear like
that from some of the postings on the CentOS mailing list.
There is an alternate called Scientific Linux (based of RHEL src
rpms). For package updates see "End support" column at this link
<http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions>
-- Arun Khan
5:03 a.m.
On Wednesday 30 March 2011 20:26:19 Kshitiz wrote:
Help me solve this puzzle based on your varied preferences: Yes, we
deploy High Availability file server and mirror for small & medium
enterprises, so yes: production environment.
1. CentOS or Debian?
Debian. You can use a newer kernel AFTER testing.
2. HCL problems? Fedora 10 doesn't work on Intel
3430 Motherboard
with DDR3, simply gives out syncloss display. How frequently do
these OS support new hardware?
X3430 is a cpu. Afaik there is no motherboard with that number. What
is the motherbaord number and chipset.
Also why are you running X on a server? That to "HA".
--
Rgds
JTD
1 Apr
1 Apr
6:26 p.m.
1. CentOS or
Debian?
Debian. You can use a newer kernel AFTER testing.
2. HCL problems? Fedora 10 doesn't work on
Intel 3430 Motherboard
with DDR3, simply gives out syncloss display. How frequently do
these OS support new hardware?
X3430 is a cpu.
Also why are you running X on a server? That to "HA".
JTD
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