Hi Linuxers, I have done my B.E in computers and am looking for a job.However my problem is that all the jobs opening out there are for .NET / SAP / ERP / Visual Crap etc etc. I did not find a single opening (for fresher) in systems programming (c/c++ in *nix, device driver etc)
My friends say its foolish of me looking for such a job and that i must take whatever job i get . But my concern is if i take any SAP/.NET etc job what are my chances of switching to a systems job (which is what i want to do ultimately)
I have done many hobby projects in linux.Right now im studying "Advanced programming in unix environment" by Richards. But i feel all this is gonna get wasted if i dont get a "good" job.
Looking out for some good advise from you all. flames > /dev/null :) If any one wants to share their first job experience they are welcome.
P.S : Any one knows of such job opening plz plz inform me.
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Hi. When I graduated (2000), I was looking for a job in Unix. I didn't really care to much if it was on linux, bsd or something else. The best option I got was NCST where they have a balance between windows and unix work. You'll have to go through the entrance test to get in.
You could also try for Amazon, Google or Yahoo!. They do a lot of unix based work on linux and freebsd. However, unless you're from one of the IITs or RECs, it's pretty hard for freshers to get in. If you have done a lot of hobby projects, and worked on some large FOSS projects, then that helps a lot.
Try and work on a medium sized FOSS project. Try and start your own as well. The exposure to working with large, diverse and geographically disparate teams will be a good point on your resume, and the technical skills you'll gain are unparalleled. I've interviewed candidates ranging from freshers to those with 10 years experience. I always find that the best candidates are those who've shown initiative in working on 'interesting' FOSS projects. It's the drive that makes them.
Remember the old adage, "A hacker does for love what others would not do for money".
Ciao,
Philip
To the OP,
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 17:00, Philip Tellis wrote:
Hi. When I graduated (2000), I was looking for a job in Unix. I didn't really care to much if it was on linux, bsd or something else. The best option I got was NCST where they have a balance between windows and unix work. You'll have to go through the entrance test to get in.
When I graduated in 2002, there was the slump and there were more anxious faces on Campus (REC, Durgapur) than I had ever seen. But after having been somewhat involved with DeepRoot Linux (www.deeproot.co.in) earlier, it was natural for me to join DeepRoot, Campus or no Campus. Though I stayed there for only about 6 months (followed up with co-founding a Company, and have moved on to co-founding a new secretive Internet Start-Up), I learned like hell in those 6 months.
(Apologies for the feeling of deja-vu)
I could point out a few companies you could possibly try: DeepRoot Linux (www.deeproot.co.in) Netcore (www.netcore.co.in) Exocore (www.exocore.com) which are Indian and purely Linux Companies.
Novell India and RedHat India are nice choices and are easier to get in touch with, I believe.
HP. Oracle, IBM do have work on Linux.
Google India, Yahoo India, Amazon India as pointed out earlier.
Also keep a track of [COMMERCIAL] anouncements in the mailing lists you are subscribed to.
Remember the old adage, "A hacker does for love what others would not do for money".
Very True. You need to strike a balance between what you want to do and how much do you need to remain alive and kicking.
All the best for a future with "Real Programming".
-Animesh
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Google India, Yahoo India, Amazon India as pointed out earlier.
Umm, not Yahoo! India (offices in Mumbai and Delhi). Not much devel work there. Yahoo! is where the devel work is (offices in Bangalore and Chennai (and Sunnyvale))
Hi,
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My friends say its foolish of me looking for such a job and that i must take whatever job i get .
Incorrect. With the plight of service industry in India, I feel that they will all move to China (read my article on "Work in India" from my site: http://www.shakthimaan.com)
I am trying to build a database of companies working with GNU/Linux.
Check this:
http://www.shakthimaan.com -> Database
I also try to send info on recruits (under "Recruits") when I get to hear on such news.
When you want to work on something, you should pursue it irrespective of what the market is. Unfortunately, a majority of students in India don't pursue their dreams but fall into the trap of looking only at the current market.
Just my thoughts,
SK
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:31:34 +0530 gautam borad borad.gautam@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Linuxers, I have done my B.E in computers and am looking for a job.However my problem is that all the jobs opening out there are for .NET / SAP / ERP / Visual Crap etc etc. I did not find a single opening (for fresher) in systems programming (c/c++ in *nix, device driver etc)
My friends say its foolish of me looking for such a job andthat i must take whatever job i get . But my concern is if i take any SAP/.NET etc job what are my chances of switching to a systems job (which is what i want to do ultimately)
I have done many hobby projects in linux.Right now im studying "Advanced programming in unix environment" by Richards. But i feel all this is gonna get wasted if i dont get a "good" job.
well why not put up those hobby projects online. if there is some stuff others could benefit from , then maybe put the source under some license for others to use & improve. & mention all this on ur resume.
Karunakar
*chop*
I have done many hobby projects in linux.Right now im studying "Advanced programming in unix environment" by Richards. But i feel all this is gonna get wasted if i dont get a "good" job.
well why not put up those hobby projects online. if there is some stuff others could benefit from , then maybe put the source under some license for others to use & improve. & mention all this on ur resume.
That is one way and _may_ work out if given time. But the problem is for real... students who want to concentrate on this area don't get as many as opportunities. Most jobs require experienced people... so what is the fresher to do?
Perhaps we need to look at this in a serious way.
Regards,
ah
That is one way and _may_ work out if given time. But the problem is for
real... students who want to concentrate on this area don't >> get as many as opportunities.
I totally agree with this I finished my diploma in 2003 and there was hardly anything which was appealing if I wanted to jump onto the *nix bandwagon.
Right now I am in Melbourne, I came here to do my graduation and from what I've seen here in the last couple of years is that there is a lot of *nix requirement internationally *but* you have to know your stuff, the focus here when you go out to get a job is what have you practically done as opposed to what you have scored, not that your scores don't matter.
I am working as a volunteer System administrator at two places, I've learnt a lot from my work.
I don't remember seeing any place in Bombay where I could work without getting paid, in a technical position and still be trusted with handling a major NGO's servers (which is what I am doing right now). This is a fantastic opportunity to learn things in a real world scenario at the same time as you are studying.
Most jobs require experienced people... so what is the fresher to do?
As was pointed out work on some open source projects, start your own, put it up online, see if you can get some voluntary work positions (I'd love it if this trend took off in Bombay but then maybe we'd also get a lot of people trying to take advantage).
Perhaps we need to look at this in a serious way.
I finish my studies in march and I want to come back and work in Bombay but from what I've been seeing there is not much cope for people specialising in *nix or for that matter Security which is my area of specialisation.
Just my thoughts on this, Bhowmik
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