On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:09:28PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote:
All suggestions are most welcome. :)
Going off on a tangent and starting a new thread. (I did reply to an existing message, but I removed the headers and changed the subject.)
Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this hassle-free new computer system for people, so they don't have to worry about Windows problems and also don't have to worry about package management, root, etc. I'm referring to Ubuntu of course.
Or even if slightly advanced users wanted Gentoo or Debian. What follows below still stands.
How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. The usual way to do it is to point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will not want to.
So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so?
Thoughts?
All suggestions are most welcome. :)
Going off on a tangent and starting a new thread. (I did reply to an existing message, but I removed the headers and changed the subject.)
Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this hassle-free new computer system for people, so they don't have to worry about Windows problems and also don't have to worry about package management, root, etc. I'm referring to Ubuntu of course.
Or even if slightly advanced users wanted Gentoo or Debian. What follows below still stands.
How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. The usual way to do it is to point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will not want to.
So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so?
Thoughts?
Dear Satya,
I am not sure if this is correct line of thought.
But would it not be feasible to use yum-arch and archive all the yum updates on the intranet? Such that this server handles the downloading of the requisite package updates, and then in turn acts as a yum repository for the intranet?
This works pretty much the way, the Windows Remote Administrative Utilities in Windows 2000 Enterprise works.
Take care, Paul Alapatt
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:11:39PM +0530, Paul Alapatt wrote:
But would it not be feasible to use yum-arch and archive all the yum updates on the intranet? Such that this server handles the downloading of the requisite package updates, and then in turn acts as a yum repository for the intranet?
I'm not talking about a company I'm talking about individual home users.
Sometime on Jun 14, PA cobbled together some glyphs to say:
But would it not be feasible to use yum-arch and archive all the yum updates on the intranet? Such that this server handles the downloading
It's the same issue that satya was talking about. Archiving it the first time itself is hard for most companies. It's better for the guy providing the service to archive it to CD and then distribute that CD to each of his clients once a month. These could be RPM or DEB archives... doesn't matter.
Sometime on Jun 14, PA cobbled together some glyphs to say:
But would it not be feasible to use yum-arch and archive all the yum updates on the intranet? Such that this server handles the downloading
It's the same issue that satya was talking about. Archiving it the first time itself is hard for most companies. It's better for the guy providing the service to archive it to CD and then distribute that CD to each of his clients once a month. These could be RPM or DEB archives... doesn't matter.
Thanks, point taken.
Take care, Paul Alapatt
--- Satya ilugbom@thesatya.com wrote:
Going off on a tangent and starting a new thread. (I did reply to an existing message, but I removed the headers and changed the subject.)
Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this hassle-free new computer system for people, so they don't have to worry about Windows problems and also don't have to worry about package management, root, etc. I'm referring to Ubuntu of course.
Or even if slightly advanced users wanted Gentoo or Debian. What follows below still stands.
How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. The usual way to do it is to point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will not want to.
So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so?
Thoughts?
Darwin. This word keeps recycling in my mind. Also, systems do not necessarily have to do good. As long as they do not do any harm, then most users are satisfied.
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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 10:56 pm, Satya wrote:
Going off on a tangent and starting a new thread. (I did reply to an existing message, but I removed the headers and changed the subject.)
wonder why i never thought of this - far simpler than starting a completely new thread