Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ???
Hiten.
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Hiten Desai wrote:
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1
You can do w to find out what someone is running, but you can't figure out exactly what he sees. You can try a cat /dev/tty4 - which will do some weird stuff - like every alternate key he presses will show up on your screen, and the remaining keys on his, but this would only alert him to the fact that something is wrong.
Furthermore, if you really feel the need to do so much snooping, then there's definitely something wrong somewhere.
Philip I think it is possible with win2k+citrix to see what a user is doing (if you have admin rights) then why not LINUX ???? --- Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Hiten Desai wrote:
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know
what exactly two on
tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get
that output on tty1
You can do w to find out what someone is running, but you can't figure out exactly what he sees. You can try a cat /dev/tty4 - which will do some weird stuff - like every alternate key he presses will show up on your screen, and the remaining keys on his, but this would only alert him to the fact that something is wrong.
Furthermore, if you really feel the need to do so much snooping, then there's definitely something wrong somewhere.
-- It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Hiten Desai wrote:
I think it is possible with win2k+citrix to see what a user is doing (if you have admin rights) then why not LINUX ????
What are the licencing costs for citrix? any idea?
he wants to capture console output - that's before X even starts. If you want to capture X output, you can use VNC - and you don't have to pay that much either.
you can also view a windows user's desktop using the linux citrix client or XWinX, or VNC.
BTW, on Win2K, there is no concept of before X starts.
That is against privacy buddy :-).....
It is also possible for mail admin to peep into all users mail ..... But they don't do it .... rather they follow ethics ..
on *nix systems u can use following products
w, ps, grep ;)
anyways if u seriously want to look for the utility which does this then TTYsnoop is what you r lookin for ...
Extract of TTYSnoop info :
TTYSnoop allows you to snoop on login tty's through another tty-device or pseudo-tty. The snoop-tty becomes a 'clone' of the original tty, redirecting both input and output from/to it.
Regards, Ranjeet
Philip I think it is possible with win2k+citrix to see what a user is doing (if you have admin rights) then why not LINUX ???? --- Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Hiten Desai wrote:
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know
what exactly two on
tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get
that output on tty1
You can do w to find out what someone is running, but you can't figure out exactly what he sees. You can try a cat /dev/tty4 - which will do some weird stuff - like every alternate key he presses will show up on your screen, and the remaining keys on his, but this would only alert him to the fact that something is wrong.
Furthermore, if you really feel the need to do so much snooping, then there's definitely something wrong somewhere.
-- It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
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+++ Hiten Desai [05/08/02 05:25 -0700]:
Philip I think it is possible with win2k+citrix to see what a user is doing (if you have admin rights) then why not LINUX ????
Please don't top post. You will need either a keyboard sniffer, or a network sniffer, or a trojaned ssh, or a kernel module to do this stuff properly. Unix does not allow this thing easily, because *users* have a right to privacy too. If you want to do it, you can with root access, but you are expected to wrok for it. root is just another user, albeit with a few more privileges.
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Philip I think it is possible with win2k+citrix to see what a user is doing (if you have admin rights) then why not LINUX ???? so its not a question of something write or wrong but it is a question of is it possible or not with linux
Hiten. --- Philip S Tellis philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in wrote:
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Hiten Desai wrote:
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know
what exactly two on
tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get
that output on tty1
You can do w to find out what someone is running, but you can't figure out exactly what he sees. You can try a cat /dev/tty4 - which will do some weird stuff - like every alternate key he presses will show up on your screen, and the remaining keys on his, but this would only alert him to the fact that something is wrong.
Furthermore, if you really feel the need to do so much snooping, then there's definitely something wrong somewhere.
-- It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
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Furthermore, if you really feel the need to do so much snooping, then there's definitely something wrong somewhere.
Not necessarily. This could be to do some sort of remote monitoring like a one way VNC session. I know of one telemarketing app that used this technique for QA purposes. It used some kind of pipe on the terminal device and rendered it using the curses library.
I'll see if I can find out more details and post them.
Regards Shahed.
write a small script to read /dev/tty4 and then dump it into a file or set ur tty to tty4 ..
these are just wild guess but might help
--- Hiten Desai linuxbrd@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi!
if suppose there are two users logged in
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ???
Hiten.
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write a small script to read /dev/tty4 and then dump it into a file or set ur tty to tty4 ..
these are just wild guess but might help
--- Hiten Desai linuxbrd@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi!
if suppose there are two users logged in
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ???
Hiten.
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Interesting question????? Spying .......... Well ' w ' is the command that shows which file a particular person has opened. But regarding viewing the contents what he is doing hmmm i don;t know but if someone knows then it will be great , then please ........ tapesh
Hiten Desai wrote:Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ??? Hiten.
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ethics says this is wrong ..... to peep into some1 else's activities is not good dude ...
I don't know whether this can ans ur query... but for pointers i've seen one keylogger (LKM) part of the latest rootkit .... it logs all the keystrokes ... (u can specify the terminal to be logged with some lil coding ;) ...)
reading the terninal in some file by some backend process is the hrt of these keylogger utilities ....
regards Ranjeet
Interesting question????? Spying .......... Well ' w ' is the command that shows which file a particular person has opened. But regarding viewing the contents what he is doing hmmm i don;t know but if someone knows then it will be great , then please ........ tapesh
Hiten Desai wrote:Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ??? Hiten.
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y dont u try writing a script for reading the /dev/tty4 directly and then either displaying on ur term or dumping in 2 files
for 2 users u can try alternate keybd sequence or try to make sense by sniffing the text manually
not sure abt this but might help.
take care harsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hiten Desai" linuxbrd@yahoo.com To: "Linux India" linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net; "linux user group" linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] knowing what other user is doing
Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in
myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ???
Hiten.
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