Sigdashes are a (de facto) way of specifying where your mail ends and your signature starts. They're pretty cool, because smart mailers and newsreaders can do funky things when they notice sigdashes.
For example, many mail clients will strip off old signatures when replying to mails. This is a Good Thing, because, hey, just one signature per mail ya?
Many mail clients, like mutt, can display signatures in a different colour or font.
So, what /are/ sigdashes?
The character sequence "dash dash space" on a line by themselves are collectively known as sigdashes. It looks something like this (without the quotes): "-- "
Configuring your mail client to use sigdashes:
Pine: Setup | Config - Composer Preferences | Enable Sigdashes - Reply Preferences | Strip From sigdashes in reply
Mutt: (sigdashes on by default) in .muttrc, add set sig_dashes=yes
unless it's set to "no" in /etc/Muttrc or ~/.muttrc, you do not need to do anything.
Thunderbird (via TagZilla): In the TagZilla | Formatting screen, set Tagline Prefix to (without quotes) "\n-- \n"
Thunderbird (no TagZilla) / Evolution / Web based mail: Include the sigdashes line as the first line of your signature file/text.
Kmail / Outlook Express: (No idea)
Go forth and spread the good news.
On Friday 14 Jan 2005 1:07 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
physician, heal thyself - heres what i got when i pressed 'reply' to your mail:
Sigdashes are a (de facto) way of specifying where your mail ends and your signature starts. They're pretty cool, because smart mailers and newsreaders can do funky things when they notice sigdashes.
For example, many mail clients will strip off old signatures when replying to mails. This is a Good Thing, because, hey, just one signature per mail ya?
Many mail clients, like mutt, can display signatures in a different colour or font.
So, what /are/ sigdashes?
The character sequence "dash dash space" on a line by themselves are collectively known as sigdashes. It looks something like this (without the quotes): "-- "
Configuring your mail client to use sigdashes:
Pine: Setup | Config
- Composer Preferences | Enable Sigdashes
- Reply Preferences | Strip From sigdashes in reply
Mutt: (sigdashes on by default) in .muttrc, add set sig_dashes=yes
unless it's set to "no" in /etc/Muttrc or ~/.muttrc, you do not need to do anything.
Thunderbird (via TagZilla): In the TagZilla | Formatting screen, set Tagline Prefix to (without quotes) "\n-- \n"
Thunderbird (no TagZilla) / Evolution / Web based mail: Include the sigdashes line as the first line of your signature file/text.
Kmail / Outlook Express: (No idea)
Go forth and spread the good news.
-- You mean you didn't *know* she was off making lots of little phone companies?
Sometime Today, Kenneth Gonsalves assembled some asciibets to say:
On Friday 14 Jan 2005 1:07 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
physician, heal thyself - heres what i got when i pressed 'reply' to your mail:
I'm assuming you meant that Kmail didn't strip my signature from the reply. I don't know if Kmail does that or not, nor how you'd configure Kmail for the same. I know my sigdashes are set correctly, because pine stripped it when I tried to reply to my own message.
A better indicator of whether the problem is at my end or yours is to check the mail source (use a text editor on the mail file if Kmail won't let you edit the raw message).
Philip
On Friday 14 Jan 2005 3:50 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
I'm assuming you meant that Kmail didn't strip my signature from the reply. I don't know if Kmail does that or not, nor how you'd configure Kmail for the same. I know my sigdashes are set correctly, because pine stripped it when I tried to reply to my own message.
A better indicator of whether the problem is at my end or yours is to check the mail source (use a text editor on the mail file if Kmail won't let you edit the raw message).
looks like my end - whole thing is weird. your mails, my mails and some others also - Kmail doesnt strip. Mails from some others like biju chacko and surjo das on blug it strips - i'll investigate.
Sometime on Jan 15, Kenneth Gonsalves assembled some asciibets to say:
looks like my end - whole thing is weird. your mails, my mails and some others also - Kmail doesnt strip. Mails from some others like biju chacko and surjo das on blug it strips - i'll investigate.
Try this... send a mail with two signature blocks, both with sigdashes.
On Friday 14 Jan 2005 5:50 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime on Jan 15, Kenneth Gonsalves assembled some asciibets to
say:
looks like my end - whole thing is weird. your mails, my mails and some others also - Kmail doesnt strip. Mails from some others like biju chacko and surjo das on blug it strips - i'll investigate.
Try this... send a mail with two signature blocks, both with sigdashes.
yep, apparently if there is more than one sigdash, kmail only cuts at the last sigdash. Is this a bug or a feature. Just to confirm this, can you press 'reply all' and reply to this message? Most mailing lists add a sigdash before their advertisements which i think is messing things up
Sometime Today, Kenneth Gonsalves assembled some asciibets to say:
yep, apparently if there is more than one sigdash, kmail only cuts at the last sigdash. Is this a bug or a feature. Just to confirm this,
bug
can you press 'reply all' and reply to this message? Most mailing
after much trying I managed to hit the right combination to reply to you as well as the list. Mail by default goes to the Reply-To: address. The From: address is ignored if Reply-To: exists.
lists add a sigdash before their advertisements which i think is messing things up
nope, Kmail is messing things up :) report a bug.
It's supposed to "strip everything from sigdash down", and not "keep everything from sigdash up"
Philip Tellis wrote:
Sometime Today, Kenneth Gonsalves assembled some asciibets to say:
yep, apparently if there is more than one sigdash, kmail only cuts at the last sigdash. Is this a bug or a feature. Just to confirm this,
bug
can you press 'reply all' and reply to this message? Most mailing
after much trying I managed to hit the right combination to reply to you as well as the list. Mail by default goes to the Reply-To: address. The From: address is ignored if Reply-To: exists.
lists add a sigdash before their advertisements which i think is messing things up
nope, Kmail is messing things up :) report a bug.
It's supposed to "strip everything from sigdash down", and not "keep everything from sigdash up"
It's working as advertised in Thunderbird. Btw, could Kenneth please change his system time - his messages are marked 6 hours ahead of IST. Unless of course he is sitting on the Eastern tip of Japan. -- This is the first age that's paid much attention to the future, which is a little ironic since we may not have one. -- Arthur Clarke * TagZilla 0.057 * [1]http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
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Sometime Today, Sujeet Bhatt assembled some asciibets to say:
It's working as advertised in Thunderbird. Btw, could Kenneth please change his system time - his messages are marked 6 hours ahead of IST.
Hey, we have sort of strict rules on this list, but there are many freedoms too. People are free to live in any timeframe that they want to. If they choose to live in the future, then let the send back some news from there :)
PS: Your complaint prolly has to do with message sorting. Having messages sorted by thread rather than arrival time could help somewhat.
On Saturday 15 Jan 2005 5:22 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
Hey, we have sort of strict rules on this list, but there are many freedoms too. People are free to live in any timeframe that they want to. If they choose to live in the future, then let the send back some news from there :)
PS: Your complaint prolly has to do with message sorting. Having messages sorted by thread rather than arrival time could help somewhat.
i'm back from the future - until i reboot -:)
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 12:02:47PM +0530, Sujeet Bhatt wrote:
It's supposed to "strip everything from sigdash down", and not "keep everything from sigdash up"
It's working as advertised in Thunderbird. Btw, could Kenneth please change his system time - his messages are marked 6 hours ahead of IST. Unless of course he is sitting on the Eastern tip of Japan.
While we're at it, could you please use the proper quote characters while replying. This indentation thing is hard to read and quote.
Satya wrote:
While we're at it, could you please use the proper quote characters while replying. This indentation thing is hard to read and quote.
This seems to be the default behaviour in Thunderbird. I would prefer to use the "proper" quote characters, too, but can't figure out where to make the change.
Sometime Today, Sujeet Bhatt assembled some asciibets to say:
This seems to be the default behaviour in Thunderbird. I would prefer to use the "proper" quote characters, too, but can't figure out where
Ok, the quoting you're using right now (from Thunderbird), is correct. The quoting you used earlier (which put tabs instead of >) was non-standard.
Where did you send that mail from?
Philip
Philip Tellis wrote:
Ok, the quoting you're using right now (from Thunderbird), is correct. The quoting you used earlier (which put tabs instead of >) was non-standard.
Where did you send that mail from?
Philip
It's all Thunderbird. I have no clue what's happening.
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