On 04-Aug-08, at 12:23 PM, Harsh Busa wrote:

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au- kbc.org>wrote:

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Hi,

has anyone succeeded in paying tatindicom bills through firefox? I click on 'pay' and nothing happens.

have tried a few times but no good. tried firefox3 as well.

HRB

then we need to put them in the hall of shame

On Monday 04 Aug 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

then we need to put them in the hall of shame

IMO besides making you feel good, it is not going to achieve much (see ILUG-D archives on hall of shame postings)

Instead we should start an initiative (a white paper of sorts) on usage of open standards for website development such that irrespective of the webserver platform it interacts seamlessly with the major browsers in the market. With such a document vendors who develop such sites can be then be questioned to justify their choice of limited functionality.

On Monday 04 Aug 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

On 04-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Arun Khan wrote:

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then we need to put them in the hall of shame

IMO besides making you feel good, it is not going to achieve much (see ILUG-D archives on hall of shame postings)

Instead we should start an initiative (a white paper of sorts) on usage of open standards for website development such that irrespective of the webserver platform it interacts seamlessly with the major browsers in the market. With such a document vendors who develop such sites can be then be questioned to justify their choice of limited functionality.

I have news for you: there are already RFCs for web

Then please point the errant site developers to these RFCs. Also, kindly share the links with us so that each of us can also ref. them to the respective site developers when we come across such sites.

On 04-Aug-08, at 9:00 PM, Arun Khan wrote:

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Instead we should start an initiative (a white paper of sorts) on usage of open standards for website development such that irrespective of the webserver platform it interacts seamlessly with the major browsers in the market. With such a document vendors who develop such sites can be then be questioned to justify their choice of limited functionality.

I have news for you: there are already RFCs for web

Then please point the errant site developers to these RFCs. Also, kindly share the links with us so that each of us can also ref. them to the respective site developers when we come across such sites.

not an RFC, but a must-have kick-ass reference

http://quirksmode.org/

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Arun Khan knura@yahoo.com wrote:

On Monday 04 Aug 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

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Hi,

has anyone succeeded in paying tatindicom bills through firefox? I click on 'pay' and nothing happens.

I have similar experience with my DLink DSL modem's web management interface. There is a "Save and Reboot" button on one of the pages, in FF nothing happens when I click on it whereas in IE it saves the changes and reboots the modem.

View>Page Source might be helpful to identify any browser specific client side code.

+1.I've not experimented with IE though.Another fact is that the router runs i386 Linux,found by running nmap with OS identification against it.

Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065

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+1.I've not experimented with IE though.Another fact is that the router runs i386 Linux,found by running nmap with OS identification against it.

It is busybox; you can telnet into the appliance :)

In this age,shouldn't they be using SSH?

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:23 PM, G Karunakar indlinux@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:21 PM, G Karunakar indlinux@gmail.com wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:

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Hi,

has anyone succeeded in paying tatindicom bills through firefox? I click on 'pay' and nothing happens.

I've paid a number of times online even, but there is a specific trick i use. The client-side JS is IE Specific, and so the pay button does not update a field, and each time you click on it, it basically posts the form without telling it to go to the next step. so you land up seeing the same page. I use a FF extenstion like Tamper Data, and just manually do what the JS is supposed to do(which i figured out reading the code, basically change paymode or paystep to "ONLNE"), and let the form post. after that, it works like a charm, and oddly enough, the subsequent pages have the correct javascript, and i dont need to do it again for the rest of the payment process. i've paid my last 6-7 months bills this way. BTW, mails to them about the same seem to be going into the Customer Service(TM) Black Hole...

Regards R. K. Rajeev

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I have paid many times, though yes clicking ok 'pay' nothing happens, but selecting 'payment options' and selecting 'instant pay' then 'Pay now' , it works. typically this takes one to billdesk.com page when one can pay by debit/credit card.

just to add.. in the form where amount is entered (though it does auto-fill), it doesnt accept unless its given including decimals eg. 595.00 instead of 595 !

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though they should still deserve HoS for not working when clicking on 'pay' !

so still holds!

Karunakar

http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

On 05-Aug-08, at 12:01 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:

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I've paid a number of times online even, but there is a specific trick i use. The client-side JS is IE Specific, and so the pay button does not update a field, and each time you click on it, it basically posts the form without telling it to go to the next step. so you land up seeing the same page. I use a FF extenstion like Tamper Data, and just manually do what the JS is supposed to do(which i figured out reading the code, basically change paymode or paystep to "ONLNE"), and let the form post. after that, it works like a charm, and oddly enough, the subsequent pages have the correct javascript, and i dont need to do it again for the rest of the payment process. i've paid my last 6-7 months bills this way. BTW, mails to them about the same seem to be going into the Customer Service(TM) Black Hole...

Are we all talking of the same product? I've used the service to pay for my Tata Indicom cellphone bills without any hassles. Are you guys talking of some other payment service for Indicom?

I have a usb modem

On 05-Aug-08, at 10:04 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au- kbc.org> wrote:

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I have a usb modem

And you pay rental for it online?

Anyways, is this the link everyone's using?

http://www.tataindicom.com/payment-options.aspx

yes - and if you had followed the discussion, we all agree that this works. What doesnt work is the bill/pay option where your pending bills are displayed and there is a link called 'pay'. This does not work

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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:

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just to add.. in the form where amount is entered (though it does auto-fill), it doesnt accept unless its given including decimals eg. 595.00 instead of 595 !

hah - this worked. It gave me a screen showing billed amount and outstanding amount and an empty box to fill in the total. When I clicked on the empty box, before I could enter anything, it gave 'invalid amount' error and after some time a screen came asking to choose payment method after which I got to good old axis bank which did the needful. So do they go to hall of schame of hall of idiots?

HoS

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